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J.B. Clamence

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Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2004 12:00 am Post subject: |
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| Or you can just call your university and pay about 15 or 20 dollars for them to send you a new one, and don't tell your boss about it. That way you can leave her thinking that she's "got" you. |
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Zed

Joined: 20 Jan 2003 Location: Shakedown Street
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Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2004 12:22 am Post subject: |
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| J.B. Clamence wrote: |
| Or you can just call your university and pay about 15 or 20 dollars for them to send you a new one, and don't tell your boss about it. That way you can leave her thinking that she's "got" you. |
A replacement states that it is a replacement. I'm not sure whether this could have some negative impacts at some points. |
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komtengi

Joined: 30 Sep 2003 Location: Slummin it up in Haebangchon
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Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2004 12:25 am Post subject: |
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| I'm amazed!! Truly amazed!! I haven't found the embassy helpful at all in dealings with them here or in Madrid. |
the australian embassy is very good at helping solve issues... they've helped me out a few times... as for the american embassy... haha forget it |
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J.B. Clamence

Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2004 12:29 am Post subject: |
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| Zed wrote: |
| A replacement states that it is a replacement. I'm not sure whether this could have some negative impacts at some points. |
I guess it depends on your university then, because mine doesn't. |
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just because

Joined: 01 Aug 2003 Location: Changwon - 4964
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Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2004 12:33 am Post subject: |
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| Zed wrote: |
| I'm amazed!! Truly amazed!! I haven't found the embassy helpful at all in dealings with them here or in Madrid. |
I'm an Awwstraaailain mate. We help each other out  |
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Zed

Joined: 20 Jan 2003 Location: Shakedown Street
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Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2004 12:49 am Post subject: |
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| J.B. Clamence wrote: |
| Zed wrote: |
| A replacement states that it is a replacement. I'm not sure whether this could have some negative impacts at some points. |
I guess it depends on your university then, because mine doesn't. |
I was told that was the way. Perhaps I was misinformed. I've always "tried" to hang on to mine and use a notarized copy whenever possible just because I would prefer to have the original. |
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kangnamdragon

Joined: 17 Jan 2003 Location: Kangnam, Seoul, Korea
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Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2004 1:01 am Post subject: |
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| J.B. Clamence wrote: |
| Or you can just call your university and pay about 15 or 20 dollars for them to send you a new one, and don't tell your boss about it. That way you can leave her thinking that she's "got" you. |
20 dollars? What kind of sheep skin is that? |
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J.B. Clamence

Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2004 2:27 am Post subject: |
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| 20 dollars? What kind of sheep skin is that? |
Mine cost $15. Some universities charge as much as $50. |
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lawyertood

Joined: 17 Jan 2003 Location: Seoul, Incheon and the World--working undercover for the MOJ
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Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2004 4:23 am Post subject: |
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| Mine cost me $30 to replace as the director of the institute where I was working at the time decided to use my diploma as a "folder" for the other diplomas he had in his possession. Boy was I pissed with him. Makes the notarized copy idea sound best. These days I submit the damaged diploma whenever it is requested. |
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phaedrus

Joined: 13 Nov 2003 Location: I'm comin' to get ya.
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Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2004 4:49 am Post subject: |
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In the eyes of most owners it is legal for them to do just about anything, yet at the same time think they are getting away with breaking every law there is
A quote from my old boss "Is any of this legal?" |
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oneiros

Joined: 19 Aug 2003 Location: Villa Straylight
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Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2004 5:10 am Post subject: |
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Well, I decided that rational arguements weren't going to work, so I'd try being devious instead. I had a nice little "confidential" discussion with my Korean co-worker about how I wasn't really happy with the teaching philosophy of the school, etc, and that it might be better if I left. Knowing full well that the entire conversation would be repeated verbatim to my director.
Surprise! It seems that my director "had a dream" last night that I was unhappy, and she was very concerned. I spent twenty minutes listening to her discuss the school's philosophy, and at the end, just mentioned politely, "By the way, you still have my diploma, and I'd really like it back." Two minutes later, it was back in my hands without an arguement.
It does help my case, though, that the administration from my last school keep calling her to "make sure I'm okay", and she's worried that I'll go back to them. |
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prairieboy
Joined: 14 Sep 2003 Location: The batcave.
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Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2004 5:41 am Post subject: |
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Keep in mind that it is your property, not her's, not the hogwon's, not immigration's. You are the one who put in the roughly 4 years and paid for it (and may be still paying for it).
It's your property and for anyone to keep it and refuse to give it back is theft. It's not anyone else's by colour of right.
If you need to play hard ball, because sometimes deviousness doesn't work, then threaten to call the police and report it as stolen by your employer. Although this would be a good thing to do when you are in a no win situation and it's time to move on.
Same with the passport, it's the property of your government and you have the express right to carry it and keep it, not anyone else.
It's good that you found a way to get your diploma back without much hassle and no really hurt feelings. My above advice is only a last resort.
Cheers |
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just because

Joined: 01 Aug 2003 Location: Changwon - 4964
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Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2004 5:55 am Post subject: |
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I had a nice little "confidential" discussion with my Korean co-worker about how I wasn't really happy with the teaching philosophy of the school, etc, and that it might be better if I left. Knowing full well that the entire conversation would be repeated verbatim to my director.
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I've used this strategy a few times to get my way. The korean teachers were just so gossipy that it always reached the top and they have a sudden vision that things aren't OK. Good call |
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Skippy

Joined: 18 Jan 2003 Location: Daejeon
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Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2004 8:15 am Post subject: |
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One of my exbosses wanted to hold on to my degree. He wanted to hang it up at the school for people to look at. I had not problem with that. I could easily take it anytime I wanted to.
My advice. Is if you can get them a noterized copy. If possible give them a good color copy.
But over all you should hold onto your degree.
Holding your degree I do not think is illegal (sort of is but not a big deal illegal). A school holding your passport - that is illegal. If your school is holding your passport you call your embassy.
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