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Fox

Joined: 04 Mar 2009
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Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 4:58 pm Post subject: |
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| BURNBURNRUBBER wrote: |
| yup... we're a generation who has never had to fight for anything; no draft card or bra burning; no flight from slavery or battle for a place to call home. |
This generation has a lot to fight for:
1) The end of institutionalized discrimination by our government.
2) The end of corporate personhood.
3) The end of the ineffective, expensive, and harmful Federal Reserve System.
4) The end of our nation spending massive amounts on needless warfare as opposed to focusing on beneficial domestic policy.
5) The end of our nation engaging in needless wars in the first place.
It goes on and on. The problem isn't a lack of things that need to be fought for. The problem is that most people aren't willing to even acknowledge those fights, much less fight them. |
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Draz

Joined: 27 Jun 2007 Location: Land of Morning Clam
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Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 8:52 pm Post subject: Re: Relationship Advice |
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| Bloopity Bloop wrote: |
I've never cheated on any of my exes and I have never had any strong compulsion to do so; I simply feel like these girls are impeding on my life. I find myself resenting them for no reason. I resent their need for attention and reminisce about the platonic/flirty times we shared pre-relationship. |
You're dating the wrong people.
Think about what you want, and then wait for it. What if you meet someone who could be right for you, but you miss the chance because you're busy worrying about a relationship with someone who annoys you? |
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Ralphie

Joined: 24 Mar 2010 Location: Beijing, PRC
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Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 4:12 am Post subject: |
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| "We all want what we can't have...it's a fact of life." OP, maybe you like the thrill of the chase? BTW, men aren't the only ones who enjoy the thrill of the chase, some women get a rush out of it, too. And as soon as committment phobic-types smell desperation, we bolt. |
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Bloopity Bloop

Joined: 26 Apr 2009 Location: Seoul yo
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Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 5:37 pm Post subject: |
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| Thanks everyone for the feedback. In retrospect, I kind of laughed at myself for posting this on an ESL forum, but I was pleasantly surprised by the quality of the response. You guys have, for the most part, managed to sort out and organize my thoughts in ways couldn't. I guess I've still got a lot to learn about myself, the kind of girls I attract, etc. The problem I have now is... how the hell do I get myself out of this relationship, lol. |
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fortysixyou

Joined: 08 Jun 2006
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Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 2:20 pm Post subject: |
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Hey OP,
Here's something you might not have considered yet. In your post you described the ideal situation. Not seeing each other all the time, behaving like friends, and a good amount of sex.
Well, that's what most relationships are like AFTER about 2 years of being together. If things go well, the 'hot and heaviness' usually changes into friendship.
I've been with my girlfriend for almost 4 years now. Sure, it started off like every other relationship, mostly physical. We stayed together, and now we have your ideal relationship. She lives in Seoul, I'm elsewhere. We see each other on weekends. We MIGHT get married soon but aren't in a huge rush.
Bottom line: that ideal relationship that you want would come to you if you actually stayed with a girl long enough for the relationship to mature. |
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MattAwesome
Joined: 30 Jun 2008
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Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 7:05 pm Post subject: |
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dont get into a relationship unless you are serious about it.
if youre not, either just play around and dont give the girls a false hope so their feelings dont get hurt. or, take some alone time and rediscover yourself.
i lose interest fairly quickly too after sleeping with a girl. and after 3 months she breaks up with me.
dont meet a girl at teh club and start a relationship. be lovers and friends, and be friends with her friends. maybe you will find a good one through networking. |
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GoldSoundz

Joined: 12 Jun 2008 Location: Pohang
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Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 5:37 am Post subject: |
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OP: Some thoughts...
Yeah, I too get bored after awhile. But I'm pretty sure it has nothing to do with the girl. It's just me, regardless of who the next one is. It gets to be a vicious cycle.
Chalk it up to ADD or fear of commitment and intimacy. Maybe, it's a guy thing. If men are "hunters", then it makes sense that you would stop pursuing and shooting the deer after you've downed it. You move on to the next moving target. Like The Smiths said, "I want the one I can't have, and it's driving me mad".
I've lost some pretty awesome women by looking for what's next or what else I would be giving up. Kinda like Jack Nicholson in "Carnal Knowledge". A relationship that works oughtta be about what you can give them or give up, not what your needs are and how they can be met.
You may even be addicted to the Honeymoon phase of a relationship. The brain releases seratonin and dopamine that gets you going in the onset and then fades.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemical_basis_for_love
You might try to keep things less physical and sexual when the relationship starts up. Focus on the girl's personality and then see if it's worth continuing. If you're not having a good time together and enjoying independence alone before hitting the sack, let it go.
Easy to preach, but harder to do. I only came back to Korea cos I got cold feet to the girl I was engaged to last year (in the US). Her mom bought us a house and she was the "one", but I kept looking over the fence at what else. When we were broken up, she was all I wanted. When we were together, I resented her and wanted out. Over and over until she couldn't stand it. Familiarity breeds contempt. Or whatever. For every fly on the inside of a window, there's one on the outside wanting in.
Anyway, enough rambling from me. Try watching "High Fidelity", about the dude who always dates with one foot out the door. That'll solve your problem. |
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SeoulSister08
Joined: 23 May 2010
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Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 6:24 pm Post subject: |
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| I can relate to the O.P. I'll start off really excited about a guy, but after a short while I become annoyed by the things that first attracted me to him: his voice, his face, his mannerisms etc. Once those happy love hormones wear off, I become bored and begin to resent him for not being as interesting as he once was. This happens with pretty much every guy I date so I can't blame the men; maybe people like us are just too irritable to be around the same person for any extended period of time. Or we might just be hooked on those feel-good chemicals that your body produces in the beginning. Whenever I don't have this reaction about a guy, he seems to have it about me... figures. Sorry, I don't really have any advice but I can sympathize. |
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PatrickGHBusan
Joined: 24 Jun 2008 Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -
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Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 4:29 am Post subject: |
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Everyone who's happily involved with a Korean seems to want to believe this about their significant other. It's nonsense.
Wouldn't it be more reasonable to simply conclude that not all Koreans can be pigeonholed into a single lazily-constructed stereotype? |
Oh hush now. That is far too reasonable and logical. It will not stand here sir!
On a more serious note....commitment is about maturity. Maturity is about being an adult in every sense of the word. Not everyone wants to be that because staying 16 in your mind is so much easier.
This is NOT a slam. It is an observation. A book called Guyland pretty much sums up the way many of the posters in this thread seem to live and explains why. While I think the author of that book leans too far with his theory, he hits the nail on the head numerous times when it comes to guys.
I will say that not commiting to a relationship because you are immature is far better than committing when you are not mature enough to do so and are doing so because you feel its the right thing to do...
Fewer people will be hurt if you do not commmit in that case...
The comment about the current and upcoming generation never being pleased is interesting. This shows up in the employment sector as well with younger applicants having a gigantic entitlement complex.
As for relationship advice for the OP: take your time, you MAY meet the right one at some point. That will however require that you change your outlook somehow. |
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