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bcjinseoul
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Location: Seoul, Korea
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 Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 5:32 pm Post subject: 20 teaching hours and 4-6 weeks vacation... |
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| ...Is this the new benchmark for college gigs these days? That's gotta be about 75% of all the college jobs I've seen this year! |
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AsiaESLbound
Joined: 07 Jan 2010
Location: Truck Stop Missouri
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| Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 5:46 pm Post subject: |
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| That's good. Only 20 classes a week and 4 to 6 weeks of see the world time? Gravy as long as it's not conditions that leaves a lot to be said. |
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bcjinseoul
Joined: 13 Jan 2010
Location: Seoul, Korea
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| Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 5:53 pm Post subject: |
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...but a few years ago almost every college jobs had about 12 teaching hours a week and had 5 months vacation...
The time off and low hours are being cut gradually. We've all seen the same thing with public schools and getting 4 weeks off instead of 2 at a hogwon... |
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brento1138
Joined: 17 Nov 2004
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| Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 6:02 pm Post subject: |
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It's a situation of "supply and demand." Currently there is a declining demand for us weigooks as the general level of English among Koreans increases. Even though our numbers are stronger than ever, just wait until all these highly fluent English-speaking Koreans graduate high school & university... say goodbye to many of the jobs for E-2 visas!
Also note the increasing number of F2s and long-term E-2s. Korea is becoming a lil' more competitive every year for those cushy jobs. |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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| Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 6:59 pm Post subject: |
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| brento1138 wrote: |
It's a situation of "supply and demand." Currently there is a declining demand for us weigooks as the general level of English among Koreans increases. Even though our numbers are stronger than ever, just wait until all these highly fluent English-speaking Koreans graduate high school & university... say goodbye to many of the jobs for E-2 visas!
Also note the increasing number of F2s and long-term E-2s. Korea is becoming a lil' more competitive every year for those cushy jobs. |
Where are these "highly fluent English-speaking Koreans"? |
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air76
Joined: 13 Nov 2007
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| Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 7:42 pm Post subject: |
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| Where are these "highly fluent English-speaking Koreans"? |
Los Angeles |
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Gaber
Joined: 23 Apr 2006
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| Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 7:46 pm Post subject: |
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| Where are these "highly fluent English-speaking Koreans"? |
Los Angeles |
Or applying for a job a little further up the ladder than English Teacher |
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definitely maybe
Joined: 16 Feb 2008
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| Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 7:52 pm Post subject: |
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| brento1138 wrote: |
It's a situation of "supply and demand." Currently there is a declining demand for us weigooks as the general level of English among Koreans increases. Even though our numbers are stronger than ever, just wait until all these highly fluent English-speaking Koreans graduate high school & university... say goodbye to many of the jobs for E-2 visas!
Also note the increasing number of F2s and long-term E-2s. Korea is becoming a lil' more competitive every year for those cushy jobs. |
I don't think the Koreans you speak of factor into it much. The competition is definitely bringing things down though. |
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Who's Your Daddy?
Joined: 30 May 2010
Location: Victoria, Canada.
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| Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 7:57 pm Post subject: Revolving Door |
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| I see those same places advertising each year because their teachers leave. I guess they don't care. |
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AsiaESLbound
Joined: 07 Jan 2010
Location: Truck Stop Missouri
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| Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 8:05 pm Post subject: |
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| TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
| brento1138 wrote: |
It's a situation of "supply and demand." Currently there is a declining demand for us weigooks as the general level of English among Koreans increases. Even though our numbers are stronger than ever, just wait until all these highly fluent English-speaking Koreans graduate high school & university... say goodbye to many of the jobs for E-2 visas!
Also note the increasing number of F2s and long-term E-2s. Korea is becoming a lil' more competitive every year for those cushy jobs. |
Where are these "highly fluent English-speaking Koreans"? |
My 2 co-teachers are them, but one is going back to college in Seoul this Fall so she probably will end up in a college. She's going to write her exams in Seoul instead of her provincial college as to allow her employment anywhere in the country she chooses. It's ironic how well my 2 co-teachers speak, but no else in the school and out in the town speaks at all outside of, "Hello. You are tall. Where are you from?" Even though they speak quite fluently, they don't have conversational talant due to lacking the cultural experience native speakers have even though they can converse though awkward due to differing values, experience, and outlook on life.
I expect quality of jobs to go down as supply of candidates increases or demand decreases. 5 months vacation and 12 classes a week would be a paid vacation just for a Sunday walk in the park. Easy. I would consider 20 classes a week with 6 weeks vacation to be nice compared to most jobs in and outside of Korea. Take what you can get in this market today. |
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definitely maybe
Joined: 16 Feb 2008
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| Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 8:56 pm Post subject: |
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| AsiaESLbound wrote: |
| TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
| brento1138 wrote: |
It's a situation of "supply and demand." Currently there is a declining demand for us weigooks as the general level of English among Koreans increases. Even though our numbers are stronger than ever, just wait until all these highly fluent English-speaking Koreans graduate high school & university... say goodbye to many of the jobs for E-2 visas!
Also note the increasing number of F2s and long-term E-2s. Korea is becoming a lil' more competitive every year for those cushy jobs. |
Where are these "highly fluent English-speaking Koreans"? |
My 2 co-teachers are them, but one is going back to college in Seoul this Fall so she probably will end up in a college. She's going to write her exams in Seoul instead of her provincial college as to allow her employment anywhere in the country she chooses. It's ironic how well my 2 co-teachers speak, but no else in the school and out in the town speaks at all outside of, "Hello. You are tall. Where are you from?" Even though they speak quite fluently, they don't have conversational talant due to lacking the cultural experience native speakers have even though they can converse though awkward due to differing values, experience, and outlook on life.
I expect quality of jobs to go down as supply of candidates increases or demand decreases. 5 months vacation and 12 classes a week would be a paid vacation just for a Sunday walk in the park. Easy. I would consider 20 classes a week with 6 weeks vacation to be nice compared to most jobs in and outside of Korea. Take what you can get in this market today. |
There are a number of us, with and without graduate degrees, who still do teach 12 hours a week with 5 months paid vacation. There are plenty of jobs just like mine, but the competition is fierce or they're not advertised through the regular channels. |
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