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55,000 student loan debt....any ideas?
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thomas pars



Joined: 29 Jan 2009

PostPosted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 11:31 pm    Post subject: 55,000 student loan debt....any ideas? Reply with quote

title pretty much sums it up. 55K in student loans. I need to pay it off
in a hurry so I can get on with my life. Any ideas? Things I won't do.

-Sell Drugs.
-Amway

Things I might do with slight reservations.

-Porn
-CDI

Thanks.
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chellovek



Joined: 29 Feb 2008

PostPosted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 11:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, in the spirit of the economic times, maybe try the following-

Only eat once a day- somewhere for free if possible.

Don't buy new clothes.

Don't replace broken gadgets.

Don't go out- and if you do, drink water.

I could go on- basically do nothing that is anyway enjoyable. Don't invest in yourself in anyway. You must sacrifice everything for your creditors.

This way all the money you save from work can be used to pay down your debt.
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Senior



Joined: 31 Jan 2010

PostPosted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 11:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Increase your income.
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AsiaESLbound



Joined: 07 Jan 2010
Location: Truck Stop Missouri

PostPosted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 1:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you are American, you might consider refinancing with the Department of Education Direct Loans so you can get on the income contingent repayment plan which also offers deferments should you be unemployed. If after 25 years the career didn't reward you well enough, it's forgiven minus tax on it as if it were income. This prevents the extreme stress of the treadmill threatening default on you should you not be a finance super star in this economy. I too am heavy on the student loan debt, but too light on income and equity. Call this saddling a sign of the times. General rule is it's ideal to earn per year how much your total debt is so you can pay off in 10 years time.

Only other way to get out from under it is do what Senior said or simply die as filing bankruptcy can't eliminate student loan debt like it does for defunct business and upside down real estate debts. It really doesn't make sense to put all of your precious few eggs back into repaying debt, because it takes money to get ahead in life. You will need money to repatriate on and allow you the means to go make a living when you are finished in Korea such as a car or tools and money to get you buy until you are on your feet again. Being broke is a huge disadvantage even if you did manage to pay half of it in only 2 years teaching in Korea by sinking ever last dollar of savings in it while you go without. I'm not saying to be irresponsible, I'm saving you need to look out for #1 first in this economy.

Making more money is the best possible way to pay off, but other wise, try to refinance into a Direct Loan for added borrower protections in the event you don't live up to expectations for whatever reasons be. Your average job is not going to cut it nor is ESL. You are looking at roughly $1000 to $1500 monthly payment for 10 years to get the monkey off your back. To scare you even more, run an amortization on it to see just how much money it costs after interest. What a severe penalty to be a poor boy that got an education.
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shapeshifter



Joined: 29 Nov 2005
Location: Paris

PostPosted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 1:52 am    Post subject: Re: 55,000 student loan debt....any ideas? Reply with quote

thomas pars wrote:
title pretty much sums it up. 55K in student loans. I need to pay it off
in a hurry so I can get on with my life. Any ideas? Things I won't do.

-Sell Drugs.
-Amway

Things I might do with slight reservations.

-Porn
-CDI

Thanks.



Just out of curiosity, was there no alternative to putting yourself in that much debt? What and where did you study? Couldn't you have chosen a less expensive route that would have provided you with an education without saddling you with this millstone?
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thomas pars



Joined: 29 Jan 2009

PostPosted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 5:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Just out of curiosity, was there no alternative to putting yourself in that much debt? What and where did you study? Couldn't you have chosen a less expensive route that would have provided you with an education without saddling you with this millstone?


Oh sure I was really foolish. I got into a pretty great school. Mcgill known to all you Canadians out there...unfortunately I was an international student.
Yearly tuition was maybe 17K a year. I had a great time and got a good
education. But in the end I got a 55K piece of paper that could have been
achieved at any state university at probably half the price.
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travel zen



Joined: 22 Feb 2005
Location: Good old Toronto, Canada

PostPosted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 6:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I sympathize Thomas. McGill is a good place to go.

I'm paying my way slowly thru Ryerson and I hate loans! Even credit cards.

Since you seem young, try being a Gigalo if you are in Korea. Japan has a big market on young white/black dudes and older women.

I was thinking of that myself just for the fun of it Cool

If you are Korean in Korea, be a pimp. China has a bigger market on that.
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bucheon bum



Joined: 16 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 6:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

$55K is manageable. As someone else said, consolidate your loans with the Dept. of Education.

There is also a new program via the Dept of Education where if you work in the public sector or have a qualifying job for a non-profit, you don't have to pay the remaining amount after 10 years.
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Leon



Joined: 31 May 2010

PostPosted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 6:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Go to graduate school.




Sorry, that was a mean joke.
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AsiaESLbound



Joined: 07 Jan 2010
Location: Truck Stop Missouri

PostPosted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 6:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bucheon bum wrote:
$55K is manageable. As someone else said, consolidate your loans with the Dept. of Education.

There is also a new program via the Dept of Education where if you work in the public sector or have a qualifying job for a non-profit, you don't have to pay the remaining amount after 10 years.


Yep, teaching is it. But who's hiring teachers in the states these days with a huge glut being let go due to severe budget issues? It was only a couple years ago it was possible to go into teaching without an education degree by a hiring school simply sponsoring you to get certification, but now even those with education degrees and certs are in a shaky iffy job market. The historically and still recently in high demand teachers are no longer demanded by the market simply because the money is no longer flowing. Uncle Sam now seems to be too broke to take care of America's public schooling needs.

I wonder how much more money drug dealing will net you over these legitimate, "jobs," leaving you beggin' for a few bones and leftover scraps? I'd be a afraid to find out, but do no one thing a bit too late. This is a new day where degrees mean little, except it got us an E-2 teaching visa in Korea. So now we pay tremendously more to go to school for an average paying opportunity lasting only 1 to 5 years or just a string of under paying gigs in whatever it may be you can land? Upper education is a gimmick scam in my opinion, but maybe it's just the economy making me think that, because if employers were popping out decent positions then I'd thank my lucky stars to be privileged enough to have gone to school. The legitimate idea several years back was to develop people for knowledge based work, but it didn't work and so now we have out of control debts. The country is too bust to even keep and maintain the most traditional and necessary population of knowledge workers. The teachers. For now, we have to forget about more lucrative trades of knowledge work such as finance, business services, and other computer based $40K+ opportunities not to say I won't keep trying new things after Korea. And hopefully something will pop us out of debt and onto home ownership with a retirement.
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bucheon bum



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