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eIn07912
Joined: 06 Dec 2008
Location: seoul
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 Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 8:56 pm Post subject: Helicopter Lessons |
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I've heard of people taking flight lessons (fixed wing). I'm wondering if there is a place that will let foreigners take helicopter lessons?
I've always thought helos were cool. The way they can just float and move gracefully through the air. It would be awesome to get behind the stick of one.
I doubt very seriously any of the military bases would do such, so I'm almost positive it would have to be a civilian school.
If anybody has heard about such a thing, please let me know.
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Ramen
Joined: 15 Apr 2008
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| I heard US military is always looking for a few good men or women to fly their helicopters. They offer free training and will pay you good salary and benefit. |
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eIn07912
Joined: 06 Dec 2008
Location: seoul
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| Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 9:12 pm Post subject: |
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| I heard US military is always looking for a few good men or women to fly their helicopters. They offer free training and will pay you good salary and benefit. |
Haha, yeah. Actually I did do a little research on that. Looks like becoming a helo pilot in the Army or Marines is one of the most competitive jobs they have. Blackhawk and Apache pilots take 6 years from the time their basic training and officer school have finished. Roughly 7 years from the day you sign a contract. And that's just to make the first cut. There's no gurantee you'll get to fly even at that point. Obviously they have much higher standards than the civilian side. While I'm interested in getting in the uniform at some point later on, I don't know if I want to spend 7 years of my life just to be told I don't have what it takes.
I want to fly now. Plus, who knows, I may get up there and decide I really don't like it. Easy enough to quit private lessons. Not so easy to go AWOL. |
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Ramen
Joined: 15 Apr 2008
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| Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 9:16 pm Post subject: |
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| I want to fly now. Plus, who knows, I may get up there and decide I really don't like it. Easy enough to quit private lessons. Not so easy to go AWOL. |
You don't have to go AWOL to quit. You can just tell them you're gay.  |
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Css
Joined: 27 Sep 2004
Location: South of the river
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| Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 9:17 pm Post subject: |
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Its something that id love to do too...but i was under the impression there were tons of difficulties with flying here due to military control of the air etc...
if you find a school, lemme know ^^ |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 9:19 pm Post subject: |
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| Ramen wrote: |
| I heard US military is always looking for a few good men or women to fly their helicopters. They offer free training and will pay you good salary and benefit. |
Haha, yeah. Actually I did do a little research on that. Looks like becoming a helo pilot in the Army or Marines is one of the most competitive jobs they have. Blackhawk and Apache pilots take 6 years from the time their basic training and officer school have finished. Roughly 7 years from the day you sign a contract. And that's just to make the first cut. There's no gurantee you'll get to fly even at that point. Obviously they have much higher standards than the civilian side. While I'm interested in getting in the uniform at some point later on, I don't know if I want to spend 7 years of my life just to be told I don't have what it takes.
I want to fly now. Plus, who knows, I may get up there and decide I really don't like it. Easy enough to quit private lessons. Not so easy to go AWOL. |
I don't know about any FBOs in Korea that offer rotary wing lessons/training BUT just a FYI the cost of dual time in a helicopter runs about US$400-500 PER HOUR (compared to $150 in a Cessna). You would be looking at 15-20 hours of dual time before you ever solo and an additional 50 -75 hours after that (for a private license). If you want a commercial license it will take 150+ hours AFTER your solo. |
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diver
Joined: 16 Jun 2003
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| Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 10:57 pm Post subject: |
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I was interested in this too at one time.
The advice I got was to join the military and get them to provide the training as getting private training would be HUGLEY expensive. |
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shifty
Joined: 21 Jun 2004
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| Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 2:20 am Post subject: |
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| ttompatz wrote: |
| eIn07912 wrote: |
| Ramen wrote: |
| I heard US military is always looking for a few good men or women to fly their helicopters. They offer free training and will pay you good salary and benefit. |
Haha, yeah. Actually I did do a little research on that. Looks like becoming a helo pilot in the Army or Marines is one of the most competitive jobs they have. Blackhawk and Apache pilots take 6 years from the time their basic training and officer school have finished. Roughly 7 years from the day you sign a contract. And that's just to make the first cut. There's no gurantee you'll get to fly even at that point. Obviously they have much higher standards than the civilian side. While I'm interested in getting in the uniform at some point later on, I don't know if I want to spend 7 years of my life just to be told I don't have what it takes.
I want to fly now. Plus, who knows, I may get up there and decide I really don't like it. Easy enough to quit private lessons. Not so easy to go AWOL. |
I don't know about any FBOs in Korea that offer rotary wing lessons/training BUT just a FYI the cost of dual time in a helicopter runs about US$400-500 PER HOUR (compared to $150 in a Cessna). You would be looking at 15-20 hours of dual time before you ever solo and an additional 50 -75 hours after that (for a private license). If you want a commercial license it will take 150+ hours AFTER your solo. |
On top of all this expenditure, you just might crash. Hopefully die, but heli accidents are rarely fatal. Rather incur severe spinal injuries with all the implicit medical expense. (And laying about staring at the ceiling) |
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djsmnc
Joined: 20 Jan 2003
Location: Dave's ESL Cafe
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| Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 3:45 am Post subject: |
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| shifty wrote: |
| ttompatz wrote: |
| eIn07912 wrote: |
| Ramen wrote: |
| I heard US military is always looking for a few good men or women to fly their helicopters. They offer free training and will pay you good salary and benefit. |
Haha, yeah. Actually I did do a little research on that. Looks like becoming a helo pilot in the Army or Marines is one of the most competitive jobs they have. Blackhawk and Apache pilots take 6 years from the time their basic training and officer school have finished. Roughly 7 years from the day you sign a contract. And that's just to make the first cut. There's no gurantee you'll get to fly even at that point. Obviously they have much higher standards than the civilian side. While I'm interested in getting in the uniform at some point later on, I don't know if I want to spend 7 years of my life just to be told I don't have what it takes.
I want to fly now. Plus, who knows, I may get up there and decide I really don't like it. Easy enough to quit private lessons. Not so easy to go AWOL. |
I don't know about any FBOs in Korea that offer rotary wing lessons/training BUT just a FYI the cost of dual time in a helicopter runs about US$400-500 PER HOUR (compared to $150 in a Cessna). You would be looking at 15-20 hours of dual time before you ever solo and an additional 50 -75 hours after that (for a private license). If you want a commercial license it will take 150+ hours AFTER your solo. |
On top of all this expenditure, you just might crash. Hopefully die, but heli accidents are rarely fatal. Rather incur severe spinal injuries with all the implicit medical expense. (And laying about staring at the ceiling) |
MORPHINE! |
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AsiaESLbound
Joined: 07 Jan 2010
Location: Truck Stop Missouri
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| Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 6:03 am Post subject: |
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| Ramen wrote: |
| eIn07912 wrote: |
| I want to fly now. Plus, who knows, I may get up there and decide I really don't like it. Easy enough to quit private lessons. Not so easy to go AWOL. |
You don't have to go AWOL to quit. You can just tell them you're gay. |
LMAO! Not anymore, the gay ban thing was recently lifted so now the question that recently came up was, "Should the military have gay barracks?"
So you want helicopter lessons in one of the most non-English speaking non-touristy countries in the world? That's ambitious! I hope you find your way to fly high. Groovy. |
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Ramen
Joined: 15 Apr 2008
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| Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 4:04 pm Post subject: |
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| I'd suggest trying in Russia. I heard they offer cheap lessons flying their attack helicopters and fighter jets. |
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atwood
Joined: 26 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 5:25 pm Post subject: |
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| shifty wrote: |
| ttompatz wrote: |
| eIn07912 wrote: |
| Ramen wrote: |
| I heard US military is always looking for a few good men or women to fly their helicopters. They offer free training and will pay you good salary and benefit. |
Haha, yeah. Actually I did do a little research on that. Looks like becoming a helo pilot in the Army or Marines is one of the most competitive jobs they have. Blackhawk and Apache pilots take 6 years from the time their basic training and officer school have finished. Roughly 7 years from the day you sign a contract. And that's just to make the first cut. There's no gurantee you'll get to fly even at that point. Obviously they have much higher standards than the civilian side. While I'm interested in getting in the uniform at some point later on, I don't know if I want to spend 7 years of my life just to be told I don't have what it takes.
I want to fly now. Plus, who knows, I may get up there and decide I really don't like it. Easy enough to quit private lessons. Not so easy to go AWOL. |
I don't know about any FBOs in Korea that offer rotary wing lessons/training BUT just a FYI the cost of dual time in a helicopter runs about US$400-500 PER HOUR (compared to $150 in a Cessna). You would be looking at 15-20 hours of dual time before you ever solo and an additional 50 -75 hours after that (for a private license). If you want a commercial license it will take 150+ hours AFTER your solo. |
On top of all this expenditure, you just might crash. Hopefully die, but heli accidents are rarely fatal. Rather incur severe spinal injuries with all the implicit medical expense. (And laying about staring at the ceiling) |
Or crash and burn. I've seen that up close and personal. It's not pretty. |
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shifty
Joined: 21 Jun 2004
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| Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 9:41 pm Post subject: |
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Actually I admire heli pilots. For some reason flying brings the best out of them and they seem particularly brave.
Be it weather, tight space, or being shot at, they have a great sense of mission. If I have a chopper searching for a lost me, I rest easy.
Since I know the pilot will do his utmost and keep at it until outa gas. |
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crisdean
Joined: 04 Feb 2010
Location: Seoul Special City
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| Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 11:19 pm Post subject: |
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| AsiaESLbound wrote: |
| "Should the military have gay barracks?" |
Could bring a whole new meaning to the term "bunkmate."  |
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teretere
Joined: 26 Mar 2010
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| Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 12:51 am Post subject: |
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Have a good friend who flies Apaches. West Point grad. Actually, I think he's a major or something by now.
Was offered 250k a year private sector salary so he's thinking about leaving the Army soon. |
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