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Oreovictim
Joined: 23 Aug 2006
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Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 6:34 am Post subject: |
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxKtZmQgxrI
This is absolute required viewing for this discussion, and one of the best series of videos ever made on youtube. It's long, but I guarantee you won't stop watching once you start. There's also another one just recently released for Attack of the Clones. |
I was about to send this to Misher. Yeah, this redlettermedia guy is great. I stumbled across him on youtube a couple of months ago.
One of my favorite parts is when he talks about the remasters of 4, 5, and 6. He says something like, "George Lucas feels the need to cram so much [Mod Edit] into each frame. That's why I find the remastered editions so [Mod Edit] offensive." |
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Bloopity Bloop

Joined: 26 Apr 2009 Location: Seoul yo
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Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 4:47 pm Post subject: |
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Considering your taste in TV, I'm just going to disregard your opinion on Star Wars
I honestly don't mean to offend you, we just have REALLY different tastes in media. |
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Senior
Joined: 31 Jan 2010
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Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 5:05 pm Post subject: |
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| Bloopity Bloop wrote: |
Considering your taste in TV, I'm just going to disregard your opinion on Star Wars
I honestly don't mean to offend you, we just have REALLY different tastes in media. |
Unfortunately, his taste in media is probably pretty mainstream.
I can guarantee he is one of those people who have this,
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I have really eclectic taste in music. eg AC/DC, Nickelback, Three Doors Down and some Eminem, just to mix it up. I also like some more obscure stuff like Led Zepelin. |
under the "Music" section of their Facebook profile. |
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AustSaint
Joined: 26 Jun 2003 Location: Yongmun
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Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 5:45 pm Post subject: |
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| the original trilogy are movies that can stand the test of time, an epic saga which I can still watch to this day. As for the prequels, I can live without them. As someone else said, the Zahn trilogy were also great books. |
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GoldSoundz

Joined: 12 Jun 2008 Location: Pohang
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Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 4:57 am Post subject: |
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Brian Poehsen had a bit on his "Live Nerd Rage" CD about how he hated Star Wars. He loved it before the prequels, but it was all over after that. I kind of agree.
Many lists on the internet consider "A New Hope" to be pretty overrated. I think it's weak on it's own, but makes a nice entry into the original trilogy, which was pretty awesome, if for nothing other than nostalgia's sake.
South Park has some awesome jabs at George Lucas and his Special Editions and prequels. I remember a good Simpsons that satirized Lucas as well.
Still a good trilogy, but I guess you had to be there when it all began. |
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Privateer
Joined: 31 Aug 2005 Location: Easy Street.
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Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 5:17 am Post subject: |
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Most Asians don't like Star Wars.
I've often wondered why it didn't catch on around here but Harry Potter was like wildfire. *shrug* |
You know what else caught on around here? The original 'V'. Apparently, it was a super mega hit.
I just watched an original V episode on TV today. So long as you accept the premise that aliens come to earth and look just like us and that no one thinks this a tad odd...so long as you accept that, it's awesome!
As for Asians not liking Star Wars, maybe it's because they aren't steeped in the same WW2 films, stories, and imagery that we are. Star Wars is basically Allies vs Axis in space. For Koreans, WW2 is just a big noise that happened elsewhere and the only salient event is the Japanese leaving Korea at the end. For the Chinese it's all about their glorious national struggle. And the Japanese, of course, have national amnesia about the whole thing except the bit right at the end where they got nuked. They don't watch lots of films about it. |
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toby99
Joined: 28 Aug 2009 Location: Dong-Incheon-by-the-sea, South Korea
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Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 5:48 am Post subject: |
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Agree with the OP. Can't put my finger on why, but even when I was a little kid I thought the Star Wars movies were complete garbage. Of course I know I'm in the minority on this.
As for the new ones, well, saw the first one, "Attack of the Robots" or whatever the flip it was called. Also crap. That was the last time I wasted money on the series. But sci-fi's my least favorite genre, which obviously colors my opinion. |
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brento1138
Joined: 17 Nov 2004
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Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 8:31 pm Post subject: |
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I was a big Star Wars nut and sci-fi geek when I was a kid... I re-watched Star Wars as an adult, and thought: "wow, this is good stuff." Then I saw Episodes 1-3 of Star Wars. Complete & utter garbage. Acting was somehow actually worse than in the originals... and the effects looked fake and CG... and plot was generally uninteresting, boring, political.
Thumbs down. |
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GoldSoundz

Joined: 12 Jun 2008 Location: Pohang
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Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 2:17 am Post subject: |
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I always thought that Star Wars was pretty popular in Japan. It was based off of The Hidden Fortress, Yoda was named for a guy that Lucas knew in Japan, "Jedi" is Japanese and the Padm� Amidala white-faced look in Ep. One is clearly Japanese. Plus, Mark Hamill went to high school in Japan.
Not to say that flattery begets gratitude, but the Japanese premier of Episode 4 did get a standing ovation. (Which was actually total silence.)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0076759/trivia
As for Korean and Chinese for that matter, the Star Wars fever was possibly banned at the time of its release and there was certainly less interest in Western culture. Closed markets at the times of the original trilogy. The generation that went for Western culture (later 90's) was unaware of the original goodness and was understandably let down at the prequels.
As to why the Harry Potter books and movies are so big? They are aimed at the younger generation worldwide (though I know all ages love it). So the Asian youngsters with new found freedom and a taste for global (read: Western) culture, tend to go for what is in.
The Harry Potter mania is completely understandable when you think about it: some rich and nerdy kid lost his parents and ends up getting to study in an elite, British prep school where kids wear uniforms. Oh. And they do magic stuff. (And play a sport that bears a loose resemblance to soccer.)
Not sayin' that Korean kids (or Asian kids) want their parents dead. But who among them doesn't wanna go to an elite prep school in England whilst wearing uniforms and goofy glasses? Eatin' candy and doin' magic. It's what they dream of when they sleep in your class. |
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joshuahirtle27

Joined: 23 Mar 2008
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Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 3:44 am Post subject: |
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I'm sorry, but this topic is just stupid. Of course the newest movies aren't the same quality as the original trilogy. They have to tell the story of how Anikin became Vader and that's pretty much it. What were you expecting? Plot twists? We knew how the series "ended" so there was never any mystery in the new trilogy.
Of course there are some really stupid people out there who expected plot twists. I can remember in the last movie when Yoda was on the floor stunned briefly, I jokingly yelled "Yoda dies!?" and someone screams "Thanks for ruining it." We all know yoda doesn't die in the new trilogy.
The new trilogy sort of sets up clone wars as well... I suppose. I still don't understand what people were expecting. Lucas was obviously going to use the CGI that exists today, it was obviously going to be different and I'm sure he really doesn't care about this or the millions of conversations like it because he has $10 for every one of them. |
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Escomike
Joined: 02 Mar 2009
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Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 3:54 am Post subject: Star Bores |
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| I can remember "Star Wars" well. I waited about 6 months before seeing it because the theaters were packed. Such high expectations! What a disappointment, all Star Wars was was just a cookie cutter good guy-bad guy story set in space. Nothing special at all, so I never wanted to see the sequels, and avoided them like the plague. |
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kam1nsk1
Joined: 05 Feb 2010
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Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 6:18 am Post subject: |
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| Revenge of the Sith is one of the worst films ever made, given what it should have been. Just woeful... |
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Seoulio

Joined: 02 Jan 2010
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Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 7:06 am Post subject: |
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I think most of us agree that the latest 3 suck,
I was more going for the actual first 3 that started them off
New Hope
Empire
Jedi
These movies were just God Awful as well |
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Underwaterbob

Joined: 08 Jan 2005 Location: In Cognito
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Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 4:26 pm Post subject: |
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| joshuahirtle27 wrote: |
| I'm sorry, but this topic is just stupid. Of course the newest movies aren't the same quality as the original trilogy. They have to tell the story of how Anikin became Vader and that's pretty much it. What were you expecting? Plot twists? We knew how the series "ended" so there was never any mystery in the new trilogy. |
I don't see how the ending being predetermined excuses the incoherent, disjointed, boring mess that were the prequels. Knowing that Malcolm X was going to die didn't prevent Spike Lee from making a great movie about him. |
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Seoulio

Joined: 02 Jan 2010
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Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 5:46 pm Post subject: |
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| Underwaterbob wrote: |
| joshuahirtle27 wrote: |
| I'm sorry, but this topic is just stupid. Of course the newest movies aren't the same quality as the original trilogy. They have to tell the story of how Anikin became Vader and that's pretty much it. What were you expecting? Plot twists? We knew how the series "ended" so there was never any mystery in the new trilogy. |
I don't see how the ending being predetermined excuses the incoherent, disjointed, boring mess that were the prequels. Knowing that Malcolm X was going to die didn't prevent Spike Lee from making a great movie about him. |
When I watched TItanic some doofus at the front screamed " THE BOAT SINKS"
I was like "great thanks for ruining it [Mod Edit]"  |
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