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ThingsComeAround



Joined: 07 Nov 2008

PostPosted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 7:18 am    Post subject: The Chip Reply with quote

So it seems that the RFID chip will be "available to people in case of an emergency"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGFnx4BPH28

and it will be "placed on convicted sex offenders" because the bracelet doesn't work

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eu6WKvOw0x8

placed in Mexican police

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBMFKp_RgS0

placed in US soldiers

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6bcIPn9IUY

I'm not a fan of Alex Jones, but the alleged necessity of these implants does worry me. Why does the government need to retain information like where I am 24/7?
In the age of technology, anything may be duplicated or deleted depending on one's access to high level knowledge or hardware. This means someone may impersonate you for your cash, medical records, "criminal free life", etc.
Imagine if someone in the gov't doesn't like you, and they tinker with your chip just to give you a few headaches- which will then be like having a big "A" sewn on your clothes. The problems far outweigh the benefits yet it seems as though this will be at first requested, then demanded by Americans. What are your thoughts? Is this cool for you, your children or am I just nuts?
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visitorq



Joined: 11 Jan 2008

PostPosted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 8:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I tend to look at this as the figurative line in the sand. If the American public is actually stupid enough to ever accept this, then it's truly game over. I'm hopeful, however, that it will not be accepted. Even though incrementalism can be deadly, the danger of this sort of thing is just too obvious...

They've also got technology for nano-IC chips that can be put into every single product you buy (such as grocery store items) with serial numbers which can be scanned by your fridge going in and out, as well as by your garbage can... This would have profound marketing implications (the data could be used by corporations to determine individual and mass consumer purchasing and usage patterns), and could also be used by the government to track everything you do and tax you for throwing away too many styrofoam egg cartons etc. or for eating too much junk food (your mandatory Obamacare insurance rate suddenly goes up)... Basically it's a corporatist's wet dream, and a total Orwellian nightmare.
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rollo



Joined: 10 May 2006
Location: China

PostPosted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 2:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My cat is chipped! So probably it contains a listening device and thy can monitor me better that way.
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ThingsComeAround



Joined: 07 Nov 2008

PostPosted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 3:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The scary thing is, the American public is aware through being coaxed into it being a good thing- that and it isn't being pushed on everyone at once. Since it is presented as a "these people need it, isn't it good?" situation until you meet 2 in 5, or 3 in 5 people that have one.
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wintermute



Joined: 01 Oct 2007

PostPosted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 11:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rollo wrote:
My cat is chipped! So probably it contains a listening device and thy can monitor me better that way.


Don't worry there is hope: the Aluminium Foil Deflector Beanie - for pets!

http://zapatopi.net/afdb/

(Thanks for the excuse to visit this awesome site again)

Quote:
AFDBs for Pets

Pets are just as susceptible to psychotronics as humans -- probably even more so since they do not have as well developed a sense of self as humans do. AFDBs can and should be used to protect your pets just like you would yourself.

Pet AFDB construction is mostly the same as with human AFDBs, however size considerations need to be taken into account and adjusted accordingly. Pets with protruding, highly mounted ears such as cats, dogs, and llamas need to have holes cut into the AFDB to accommodate them. Great care must be taken when making these holes to leave enough extra aluminum to secure the hole around the base of the ear so no stray psychotronic rays leak in.

While concern for your pets' well being should be motivation enough to construct AFDBs for them, there is also another reason: any un-AFDBed entity with a central nervous system in your home -- even a beloved pet -- is a potential agent of the forces of mind control and may be used to spy on you or even bring physical harm against you. You are simply not safe with AFDBless pets in your home.
Warning signs of psychotronically affected pets:

* Does your cat stare intently at empty space as if watching something?
* Does your dog follow you around as if keeping track of you?
* Does your goldfish seem content to merely swim around in a little bowl observing you?
* Does your parrot say things that you never taught it to say, especially pro-NWO slogans?


and, I have to add, from the testimonials page:

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[picture of AFDB'd cat]
me and my friends have been using afdb's and we fully endorse this form of mind control prevention we have noticed a definate drop in mind control betweeen us since we have used them. i was wondering if this afdb would fully protect my cat and should i think of constructing a simmilar device for my hamster and how would one construct a simmilar device for a gold fish.

p.s fight the power!!!!

from TOM (this an assumed name to keep my identity secret from THEM!!!!!!!!)

- "TOM" [2004-11-03]

[That Feline AFDB will protect your cat fine. You will find that it was well worth all the scratches you now have, as your newly aware cat will be less self-obsessed and will even start remembering your birthdays. You should definitely also make a beanie for your hamster, as this will liberate it from pointlessly running around in a wheel -- a side effect of psychotronic sports drink brain-mercials intended for humans. For goldfish, I would recommend -- as I explain in my book -- that you should simply wrap the whole fishbowl in foil since it is easier than trying to adhere a small beanie to slippery scales with tape. Plus this will block your view of the fish, keeping you from coming under the psyoptic control of its hypnotic swimming.]
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AsiaESLbound



Joined: 07 Jan 2010
Location: Truck Stop Missouri

PostPosted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 2:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

American passports now have the chip. Yes, we are now chipped. Rolling Eyes


The passport is still valid if the chip quits working so it's still only optional. Could you imagine if your money, work, quals, and all info is stored on a chip in your arm or hand? When you go to the store, it's scanned and updated so your account is charged for what you buy. When you go to a job, you are scanned all the time to record your whereabouts and actions. Somethings telling me I don't like this idea, but it's going to be our changing reality in the not so distant future.
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djsmnc



Joined: 20 Jan 2003
Location: Dave's ESL Cafe

PostPosted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 3:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If this ever happens, I'm goin hermit!
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rollo



Joined: 10 May 2006
Location: China

PostPosted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 5:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks wintermute!! I have made myself a tinfoil hat, sort of like a turban wrapped it in orange duct tape for visability. I get a lot of nice compliments. Who ever comes out with fashionable designer ones is going to make a killing. Who knows chips may already be in money. Any country could do it. It makes everything simpler. You can never be too paranoid.
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visitorq



Joined: 11 Jan 2008

PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 3:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

rollo wrote:
thanks wintermute!! I have made myself a tinfoil hat, sort of like a turban wrapped it in orange duct tape for visability. I get a lot of nice compliments. Who ever comes out with fashionable designer ones is going to make a killing. Who knows chips may already be in money. Any country could do it. It makes everything simpler. You can never be too paranoid.

Yeah, it's all just a figment of our imagination. The fact that the technology exists and is documented in the mainstream media (like Bloomberg) is irrelevant. Because dull mockery and worn out jokes are so much easier than taking 10 seconds to google it.
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Captain Corea



Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 4:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd chip my family.
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visitorq



Joined: 11 Jan 2008

PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 5:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Captain Corea wrote:
I'd chip my family.

How heroic.
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mises



Joined: 05 Nov 2007
Location: retired

PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 5:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Trust your government. They mean you no harm.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etv8YEqaWgA

(3:50)
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Captain Corea



Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 2:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

visitorq wrote:
Captain Corea wrote:
I'd chip my family.

How heroic.


To be heroic, I'd chip yours too. Wink
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.38 Special



Joined: 08 Jul 2009
Location: Pennsylvania

PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 4:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The chip is a legitimate concern. Not too long ago a PA Constitutional amendment failed to pass that would have banned biometrics in ID cards. There is resistance to the idea at state level.
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Fox



Joined: 04 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 7:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Resisting the steady march of technology is pointless. Instead, citizens must remain firm on what is or isn't an acceptable application of it. There's nothing wrong with technology like this being an option for people to utilize of their own accord. People should resist any enforced use of this, though; it should be illegal for a company to require it, and no government agency -- including the military and the criminal justice system -- should be making use of it.

Being able to use my credit card with the wave of my hand is fine. Being required to do so isn't.
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