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bacasper
Joined: 26 Mar 2007
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 Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 9:36 pm Post subject: Accused sex offender wins SC primary |
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pkang's question on the thread Democrats running away from American Public?, would appear to be answered in the affirmative as evidenced by this case:
Mystery S.C. nominee has pending felony charge
Alvin Greene has been on the phone all day. That's to be expected for the guy who just won South Carolina's Democratic Senate primary and is facing incumbent Republican Jim DeMint in November. But everyone calling Greene has just been trying to find out who the heck he is � and one thing reporters learned Tuesday is that a criminal complaint was sworn out against him last year for allegedly showing obscene photos to a South Carolina college student and suggesting they go to her dorm room.
Greene, a 32-year-old unemployed military veteran who lives with his parents, defeated Vic Rawl on Tuesday for the Democratic Senate nomination despite having run essentially no public campaign � no events, no signs, no debates, no website, no fundraising.
The result has baffled political observers, who had heavily favored Rawl � a former state legislator, attorney and prosecutor who had the edge inasmuch as he actually campaigned and tried to win. Many in South Carolina (which has grandly lived up to its reputation as a political circus this year) suspect that somewhere, a crafty GOP political operative is snickering.
As far as the local political press can discern, the only positive step Greene took toward campaigning was when he plunked down a $10,400 check in March to satisfy the state's filing fee and get on the ballot. He never registered a campaign committee with the Federal Election Commission or filed a financial disclosure with the Senate Ethics Committee.
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Moldy Rutabaga
Joined: 01 Jul 2003
Location: Ansan, Korea
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| Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 11:06 pm Post subject: |
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In a way, you have to cheer the underdog. He had no big money behind him and still won.
His first act in government? To try to bring a change to these preposterous sex offence laws that can't distinguish between a serial killer and someone sending dirty cellphone pictures to a co-ed. I'm not condoning his action, but it's not exactly a national sex scandal. |
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Fox
Joined: 04 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 11:10 pm Post subject: |
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| I have to say, suggesting sex to a college student and sending a few dirty pictures seems incredibly trivial to me. I have no idea what political positions this man holds, but if I found I agreed with them, his "sex crime" would not impede me from voting for him. |
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Konglishman
Joined: 14 Sep 2007
Location: Nanjing
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| Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 11:56 pm Post subject: |
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| Sometimes, I wonder if a lottery election would have some advantages over a voted election. Of course, that would probably be too extreme, but I could imagine an ideal hybrid election system of some sort where in some cases, people are voted into office and in other cases, they are randomly selected by social security number or even by their favorite lottery number... |
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rollo
Joined: 10 May 2006
Location: China
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| Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 1:38 pm Post subject: |
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| yeah I think calling the guy a sex criminal is overboard. Crude crass rude behavior yes. A criminal no. A Republican plant obvious. |
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lithium
Joined: 18 Jun 2008
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| Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 8:38 am Post subject: |
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| rollo wrote: |
| yeah I think calling the guy a sex criminal is overboard. Crude crass rude behavior yes. A criminal no. A Republican plant obvious. |
What makes him an "obvious" Republican plant? |
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ontheway
Joined: 24 Aug 2005
Location: Somewhere under the rainbow...
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ontheway
Joined: 24 Aug 2005
Location: Somewhere under the rainbow...
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| Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 10:56 am Post subject: |
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| He first thought of running for the Senate two years ago, he says, while stationed in Korea as an Army supply specialist. "I thought he was crazy," says his older brother, James Greene Jr. |
... political ambition in his heart in the Army and at his University ...
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| The University of South Carolina confirms that Greene graduated in 2000 with a degree in political science. The Pentagon confirms that he served in the Army, and in the Army and Air Force national guards. Although Greene has not boasted of winning awards, the Pentagon says he was granted the Air Force Good Conduct Medal, National Defense Service Medal, Global War on Terrorism Service Medal and Korean Defense Service Medal. |
Sounds nice on paper.
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Minutes later, someone is on the line saying, "I'm so glad you won" and complaining about "trumped-up charges." Shortly before 11 p.m., Greene's brother -- who lives next door -- arrives at their father's small ranch-style house to catch the local news.
Greene "shining a negative light on our state" is the lead story. The news report says he has not entered a plea or been indicted in connection with the obscenity charge. Greene asks: "I have not been indicted? Indicted? What does that mean?" His brother explains that a charge and an indictment are different things. He nods.
"I'm on the not-guilty side of things," Greene says. "I have to be. I mean, I mean, I mean. I have no comment, I mean." Greene's attorney, a public defender named Spencer S. Beckman who served as an intern for former senator Ernest F. Hollings (D-S.C.), declined to be interviewed. Greene is at first reluctant to talk about the charge. But once he starts, he goes on at length.
"It can go away," Greene says. "Just think about a charge. It can be dropped by the solicitor. It can be dropped and erased like it never happened. . . .
"Folks should be given a chance to correct themselves. Somebody could just be trying to get somebody in trouble. You see, somebody, you know -- you just can't work around somebody. It's hard. I'm just trying to talk about something, frankly. I'm just trying to talk from my perspective. People should be friendly. I mean, leave it alone."
Greene and his brother question the timing of the revelation of the charge, and James Greene Jr. predicts that the long-stalled case will be set for trial before the November election. |
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In a telephone interview from her Charleston home, Greene's accuser -- Camille McCoy, 19 -- says she didn't know that Greene was running.
"I really wish I'd known before the election, so I could have said something so that people would have known who they were voting for."
She says Greene asked her to look at pornography on his screen at a computer lab in a University of South Carolina dormitory and suggested, "Let's go to your room."
Now her mother, Susan McCoy, wants Greene to withdraw from the race. And one other thing: "We want this guy to crawl back under the rock he came from." |
Doesn't sound like much of a crimnal act.
So, this guy is a poly sci major, with a degree! Yeah, any idiot can get a degree - I knew that, but this guy .... Wanted to run for office. Gets charged with a serious crime when he did next to nothing. Decides to go ahead and run.
The Dems ignore Greene, but their hand picked guy has the kind of name that sounds scary, and they didn't bother to campaign for him seriously.
So, the voters haven't got a clue, turn out is very low, no one has heard of either candidate, and so, the voters choose the better sounding name that is listed first on the ballot.
This story just adds to the evidence that the election laws are stupid, the idea of democratic elections is a farce at best, and even the big brained party leaders in the Democrat party are idiots ...
What next? ... a bit of behind the scenes hocus pocus and ... Greene's criminal charges are suddenly dropped and .... Greene drops out of the race and the Dems can select someone to take his place ....
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No deal gets made and Greene sits in jail as the people vote ...
or ...
hope and change and Greene upset DeMint!
Hurray, the world is saved. |
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Fox
Joined: 04 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 7:14 pm Post subject: |
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Democrats increasingly convinced of election fraud in SC primaries.
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When asked by NBC's David Gregory on Sunday if Greene's election was legitimate, senior White House adviser David Axelrod said, "It doesn't appear so to me. It was a mysterious deal."
Axelrod said: "The whole thing is odd. I don't really know how to explain it and I don't think anybody else does either. ... How [Greene] won the primary is a big mystery, and until you resolve that I don't think he can claim to be a strong, credible candidate."
But many political observers are becoming convinced that they do know how Greene won: A combination of faulty voting machines and foul play by political opponents.
Greene handily defeated opponent Vic Rawls in Tuesday's primary, winning with 59 percent of the vote to Rawls' 41 percent, despite not having run any sort of visible campaign, not having set up a campaign Web site, and being unemployed. And it quickly emerged that Greene is facing a felony obscenity charge over an incident in which he allegedly showed a college student obscene photos from the Internet.
So how to explain the unlikely election result? One theory, propagated by BradBlog's Brad Friedman, is that Greene was the beneficiary of phony voting-machine results. In 25 precincts, Greene received more votes than were actually cast; and while Rawls won absentee ballots by a whopping 84-to-16 percentage point margin, the election-day results showed Greene winning by 18 percentage points.
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Strengthening the notion that Greene is a "plant" inside the Democratic Party is the fact that the unemployed candidate has not been able to explain, in interviews, where he got the $10,400 to file to run in the primary race. |
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ontheway
Joined: 24 Aug 2005
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| Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 11:41 am Post subject: |
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First, to quote me:
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So, this guy is a poly sci major, with a degree! Yeah, any idiot can get a degree - I knew that, but this guy .... Wanted to run for office. Gets charged with a serious crime when he did next to nothing. Decides to go ahead and run.
The Dems ignore Greene, but their hand picked guy has the kind of name that sounds scary, and they didn't bother to campaign for him seriously.
So, the voters haven't got a clue, turn out is very low, no one has heard of either candidate, and so, the voters choose the better sounding name that is listed first on the ballot.
... the big brained party leaders in the Democrat party are idiots ...
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Now, the media is catching on ...
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By MICHAEL SCHERER / MANNING, � 34 mins ago
At Home With Alvin Greene: Will the Carnival Act Get Serious?
Greene's election has become a who-done-it of the political year, with a formal protest filed with the state Democratic Party, a legal challenge before the Federal Election Commission and endless local chatter about how a man with no real campaign, who gets information "mainly" from television, defeated the party-endorsed standard bearer ...
So they have begun to build a case that the state's voting machines, electronic boxes without paper trails, may be at fault. They have been collecting anecdotal reports of voter machine malfunction ...
Elsewhere in the state, Democratic and Republican consultants have, without evidence, alleged dirty tricks ...
A third explanation now seems the most likely: Greene got lucky. His name appeared first on the ballot, may have had a more dulcet-sounding tone to it, and there is little evidence that anyone knew much about either candidate before the election. In one poll a few weeks before the election, only 4% of state Democrats had a favorable opinion of Rawl, in part because so few knew who he was.
"I talked to a lot of people, and a lot of people voted for him," Democratic state Rep. Todd Rutherford told MSNBC. "They can't tell me why. They just said that hey, they saw the name and they pushed the button." |
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mises
Joined: 05 Nov 2007
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Fox
Joined: 04 Mar 2009
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Alvin Greene's economic stimulus idea:
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It is clear, too, in the course of the two hours I spend with Greene that he has some pretty wacky ideas that, were he to win in November, would put him among the more unpredictable members of the senate. At one point, he lurches off on his big idea for how to create jobs in South Carolina.
"Another thing we can do for jobs is make toys of me, especially for the holidays. Little dolls. Me. Like maybe little action dolls. Me in an army uniform, air force uniform, and me in my suit. They can make toys of me and my vehicle, especially for the holidays and Christmas for the kids. That's something that would create jobs. So you see I think out of the box like that. It's not something a typical person would bring up. That's something that could happen, that makes sense. It's not a joke." |
Indeed, Mr. Greene, that's not something a typical person would bring up. |
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recessiontime
Joined: 21 Jun 2010
Location: Got avatar privileges nyahahaha
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| Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 12:27 am Post subject: |
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he is lying about campaigning all across the state
he is lying about using his unemployment benefits to finance his transportation, however he is collecting unemployment, that much is true
he is lying about why he decided to get into politics
that much i can tell from observing his behavior |
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Leon
Joined: 31 May 2010
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| Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 6:12 am Post subject: |
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| Way I figure it, the chances of a democrat winning a senate seat in SC is pretty low so they probably just didn't care that much who won. |
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bacasper
Joined: 26 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 8:30 am Post subject: |
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Alvin Greene's economic stimulus idea:
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It is clear, too, in the course of the two hours I spend with Greene that he has some pretty wacky ideas that, were he to win in November, would put him among the more unpredictable members of the senate. At one point, he lurches off on his big idea for how to create jobs in South Carolina.
"Another thing we can do for jobs is make toys of me, especially for the holidays. Little dolls. Me. Like maybe little action dolls. Me in an army uniform, air force uniform, and me in my suit. They can make toys of me and my vehicle, especially for the holidays and Christmas for the kids. That's something that would create jobs. So you see I think out of the box like that. It's not something a typical person would bring up. That's something that could happen, that makes sense. It's not a joke." |
Indeed, Mr. Greene, that's not something a typical person would bring up. |
Action dolls? Yeah, he completely missed the boat on that one. The only way to really stimulate the economy and get it back to full employment would be with bobblehead dolls!
I know I'd buy an Alvin Greene bobblehead. Wouldn't you?  |
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