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Nut allergy in South Korea
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ZeroGravitas



Joined: 09 Jun 2010

PostPosted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 6:59 am    Post subject: Nut allergy in South Korea Reply with quote

Any non-Korean speaking nut allergy sufferers around these parts? How difficult is it to avoid food with nut ingredients in South Korea? I'm guessing I might have to learn a few key phrases before I move out there in order to avoid any unpleasantness, I suppose a suitcase full of epipens wouldn't hurt either!
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lonni318



Joined: 08 Mar 2010

PostPosted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 8:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am coming to Korea in 2 weeks and am also allergic to nuts. I was just planning on getting a dictionary and asking a Korean co-worker to write it down for me.

I am also allergic to sesame seeds which I think will be harder in Korea because they sprinkle them on lots of Korean dishes.
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Bollocks



Joined: 12 Feb 2009

PostPosted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 8:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bring epis. Korea doesn't have them. Doctors don't recognize them, and are unable to prescribe them.

I'm told they have epinephrine available in hospitals, but that's no help if you're one of those guys who would die before the ambulance arrives.




The purple lonely planet book has a few phrases pertaining to allergies, but the reaction I've got from most Koreans is that you either get hives or a rash or something. Korea doesn't have a word for "anaphylaxis" (comes out as "알레르기" lit: all-leh-ruh-gi or "allergy").

You might print this out:

과민성 쇼크(anaphylaxis)는 급성 앨러지 반응의 하나로 항원과 항체 Ig E가 매개하는 항체간의 급격한 항원-항체 반응으로 일어난다. 매우 위급한 상황을 초래하여 즉각 치료 하지 않으면 생명이 위독할 수도 있다. 과민 반응(anaphylactoid reaction)은 이와 비슷하나 Ig E가 매개하지 않는 것이 차이이다.

(from http://ko.wikipedia.org/wiki/%EA%B3%BC%EB%AF%BC%EC%84%B1_%EC%87%BC%ED%81%AC)

and carry it around with you. That might help.


Fun story: I had an incident that required me to visit a hospital. Fortunately the lady I talked to spoke English fairly well, but the hospital (ie, everyone working there that I talked to, collectively), didn't have the slightest idea what was going on. They sent me to epidermiology. As I said, they thought it was a skin condition. Not regular street people, these. But doctors. Doctors.

Anyway, they sent me out with a prescription for loratadine in case it happens again. So rest assured, if you're in trouble, CLARATIN is the answer.




Obviously my allergies have lessened over the years. If this had been a decade ago, I would have quite likely died on the floor and they may very well have stood there slackjawed, wondering when the waygookin was going to get off the carpet.

Seriously, I love Korea, but if you've got serious life threatening allergies: DO NOT COME. They don't carry the treatment you need. They haven't heard of the issue. They don't take action when you explain that the issue is life threatening.

They will stand by flabbergasted and watch you die.
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Jane



Joined: 01 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 9:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is another thread on peanuts:

http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=183367&highlight=peanuts
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Bibbitybop



Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 10:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I will refrain from making lewd comments.
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Underwaterbob



Joined: 08 Jan 2005
Location: In Cognito

PostPosted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 3:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lonni318 wrote:
I am also allergic to sesame seeds which I think will be harder in Korea because they sprinkle them on lots of Korean dishes.


Depending on the extremity of the allergy, it just might be more of a problem. Sesame seeds (and leaves and plants) are nigh omnipresent here.
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djsmnc



Joined: 20 Jan 2003
Location: Dave's ESL Cafe

PostPosted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 6:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

People with food allergies should be taken care of the same way that people with genetic deformities were treated by Nazi Germany. That way I wouldn't have to see anymore of this BS:

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=127773780&ft=1&f=1003

1.8mil Americans have peanut allergies, so let's ban peanuts on planes. 1.8. I think the mysterious disappearance of 1.8 million people would go mostly unniticed in the grand scheme of things!
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hwarangi



Joined: 17 Nov 2008

PostPosted: Sat Jun 12, 2010 12:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If your allergic reaction can be life-threatening use extreme caution. Just because your coworker writes something on a note, doesn't mean people will follow the instruction, or be aware if something came into contact with your food down the chain. Food allergies arent such a big deal here.
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pkang0202



Joined: 09 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Sat Jun 12, 2010 6:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe you allergy sufferers might find this amusing:

http://topnews.us/content/219890-americans-food-allergies-their-head-study

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According to a new study published in the Journal of the American Medical Association, the food allergies that the Americans suffer from are all in the head.

The study claims that millions of Americans who think, that they are suffering from food allergies may be fooling themselves.



As a side note, I'm allergic to tree fruit. And no, its not in my head. When I eat plums, peaches, cherries. mangos, etc... my lips swell up, they tingle/itch and my throat swells up a little. Nothing life threatening, but definitely REAL. However, Pears, apples, grapes, and oranges have no effect.
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djsmnc



Joined: 20 Jan 2003
Location: Dave's ESL Cafe

PostPosted: Sat Jun 12, 2010 7:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

pkang0202 wrote:
Maybe you allergy sufferers might find this amusing:

http://topnews.us/content/219890-americans-food-allergies-their-head-study

Quote:
According to a new study published in the Journal of the American Medical Association, the food allergies that the Americans suffer from are all in the head.

The study claims that millions of Americans who think, that they are suffering from food allergies may be fooling themselves.



As a side note, I'm allergic to tree fruit. And no, its not in my head. When I eat plums, peaches, cherries. mangos, etc... my lips swell up, they tingle/itch and my throat swells up a little. Nothing life threatening, but definitely REAL. However, Pears, apples, grapes, and oranges have no effect.


Man, I'm sure that really saps your energy! At least you've been able to get to the root of the problem. Just don't go bark up the wrong tree. Haha

Ok, I got it, that's more than enough.
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atwood



Joined: 26 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 3:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sesame seed oil is used in lots of dishes. Korea is a tough place for people with restricted diets unless you do all your own cooking.
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Senior



Joined: 31 Jan 2010

PostPosted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 3:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

pkang0202 wrote:
Maybe you allergy sufferers might find this amusing:

http://topnews.us/content/219890-americans-food-allergies-their-head-study

Quote:
According to a new study published in the Journal of the American Medical Association, the food allergies that the Americans suffer from are all in the head.

The study claims that millions of Americans who think, that they are suffering from food allergies may be fooling themselves.



As a side note, I'm allergic to tree fruit. And no, its not in my head. When I eat plums, peaches, cherries. mangos, etc... my lips swell up, they tingle/itch and my throat swells up a little. Nothing life threatening, but definitely REAL. However, Pears, apples, grapes, and oranges have no effect.


I always had a mild reaction to peanuts as a kid. I would accidentally eat peanuts, probably, 3 times a year. Some time around the age of 8 or 9 my mum went on a huge crusade about it and got me an epipen and a medic alert bracelet (which kept mysteriously breaking), some how after that the few times I ate peanuts, my symptoms became much worse. I used to get an itchy throat, but after it was "diagnosed" my symptoms were much the same as yours.

I definitely have some issues with peanuts, but I'm convinced it's 99% psychosomatic.

Just my own personal anecdote.
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tehdee



Joined: 01 Apr 2008

PostPosted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 4:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

to get back to the op's question... alot of people will try and scare you into thinking life will be difficult over here with a peanut allergy-- they're wrong.

im anaphylactic to peanuts, AND am allergic to all seafood including shellfish. the fish are a doozy, but the peanuts--- not so much. the only things i look out for are strange salad dressings, nuts sprinkled on top of fried chicken and breads...

ive been living here for two years, eat out regularly (7-10 times a week) and have had but one scare at my middle school with a piece of garlic bread from paris baguette.

i carried a little translation card around for the first little while until i was confident enough to explain myself in korean.

having travelled through the philippines, singapore, indonesia, laos, cambodia, nepal, tibet, china, japan and hong kong i can tell you ive had the EASIEST time in korea. by far.

an allergy should not prevent you from seeing the world. fasr too many people are lulled into thinking they need to stay in their 'safety zones'... sure there have been some hungry days... a couple of rice and egg dinners... but i wouldnt trade the travels and experiences for anything.

i even tried to start up an allergy conscious traveller webpage a couple of months back... but it didnt take. maybe ill try to fire it up again.
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tehdee



Joined: 01 Apr 2008

PostPosted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 4:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Seriously, I love Korea, but if you've got serious life threatening allergies: DO NOT COME. They don't carry the treatment you need. They haven't heard of the issue. They don't take action when you explain that the issue is life threatening.

They will stand by flabbergasted and watch you die.


this is absolutely ridiculous by the way.

my scare with paris baguette garlic bread sprinkled with peanuts on top? i right away got in a cab and booked it to the seoul university hospital in bundang. right away the doctor came out and in broken english told me he was putting me on an anti-histmanie iv and hed observe me for a while. if signs of anaphylactic shock started he would administer adrenaline. these are doctors people. maaaybe if you're living down in mokpo, or in the rural reacheds of gangwan-do there might be some ignorance. but anywhere like busan, daegu, seoul, or daejeon will be perfectly able to handle any problems that may arise.
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nzbradly78



Joined: 23 Mar 2009
Location: Czech Republic

PostPosted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doctors here are funny. My children have nut allergies and horrific eczema. The nut thing is pretty easy to deal with since we cook at home and my daughter goes to a kindergarten run by a woman who'd spent quite a long time in America. With the eczema, we can't get a large bottle of medical lotion like we can in New Zealand, since as our doctor said "Korea children don't get eczema." Serious.

When I was in hospital with severe stomach pains and all the fun side affects of that, the doctor was convinced it was food poisoning. Nevermind my wife and children and I all ate the same food at the same time and they were fine.

Finally, when my wife was pregnent with our daughter (the first time we lived here), the told not to gain more than 7 kg. Oooh boy. I'm not bagging on Korean doctors much, since these are isolated things, but they do have some funny ideas sometimes. I live in Daegu, so these aren't countryside doctors.
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