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Filipino English teacher challenges E-2 regs
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Grantasmagoria



Joined: 04 Dec 2005

PostPosted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Juregen wrote:
Grantasmagoria wrote:
All that education and she can only pull out the race card. She may have a point in there somewhere but I couldn't care less. She sounds insufferable.


The press probably highlighted only the "race" component of her appeal. There is more beef to it than that.


That's true. But the lawyer's comments reek of ignorance as well.

``I hope something happens. But I�m not sure if Koreans can actually accept darker skinned people as their equals. To be a teacher here, you have to be white. It�s discriminatory. People here only prefer to be taught by whites,�� Mr. Sawyer said.

Does it happen? Sure but not every single time as others have mentioned blacks, gyopos and the new Indian teachers working here.

"However, there is one precondition ㅡ countries must sign a trade contract with Korea, containing clauses on employment as English teachers, government officials said. Korea and the Philippines have not signed the needed contract as yet."

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Kuem Yong-han, director at the Ministry of Education, Science and Technology (MEST), said �we once talked to the Filipino embassy in order to invite English teachers from the country, but they were afraid of a brain drain of talented teachers.�

Lawyer dude needs to do his homework before he starts throwing out blanket statements.
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Mikejelai



Joined: 01 Nov 2009
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 8:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

But maybe the "lawyer dude" didn't actually say any of those things. Please keep in mind the professional reputation of the person who wrote the article............................
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TECO



Joined: 20 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 1:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

madoka wrote:
Just curious. . .

Has anybody run into an Indian or Filipino who was born in their native country and did NOT have a strong accent?

I have to admit that I have not yet. I live next to a very large Filipino-American community. I frequent their stores, markets and restaurants. I often find that I have to ask them to repeat themselves as I could not quite make out what they were saying. Same thing with first generation Indian-Americans.


Yeah, but I feel that way listening to the Scottish, Irish or British. I've worked in schools with teachers from these countries and had to listen really hard at times to understand what they were saying.

Philippines official language is English, right? So then why isn't it on the list of countries mentioned above?
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creeper1



Joined: 30 Jan 2007

PostPosted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 4:41 pm    Post subject: Funny Reply with quote

[quote="Grantasmagoria
, but they were afraid of a brain drain of talented teachers.�[/b]

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I am sure that this is one concern that officials in the UK, US et al don't have!!!! Laughing
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noraebang



Joined: 05 May 2010

PostPosted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

madoka wrote:
Has anybody run into an Indian or Filipino who was born in their native country and did NOT have a strong accent?


My grandmother. She was born and raised in India then moved to Canada in the 50's, where she has remained since. She also knows 5 languages, and is quite a good language teacher in my opinion (she's teaching me Punjabi).

I never actually had the chance to hear my grandfather since he died before I was born, but I do know he conducted a lot of speeches in his work. He also knew one more language than my grandmother, Cantonese, because he spent a few years in Hong Kong before immigrating to Canada.

Just goes to show that some people can have a high linguistic aptitude and be suitable for teaching no matter what their formal credentials are (both of my grandparents dropped out of elementary school). If my previous statement is true, then it should be up to an employer to evaluate and decide for himself whether the potential employee meets his standards, rather than having the government arbitrarily create some standards for him.
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TheUrbanMyth



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

noraebang wrote:
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Just goes to show that some people can have a high linguistic aptitude and be suitable for teaching no matter what their formal credentials are (both of my grandparents dropped out of elementary school). If my previous statement is true, then it should be up to an employer to evaluate and decide for himself whether the potential employee meets his standards, rather than having the government arbitrarily create some standards for him.



The problem with that is that MANY if not most school owners have extremely low standards of hiring as can be seen by the "freaky waygook" thread and the (apparently) large amount of illegals floating around Korea.
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sojusucks



Joined: 31 May 2008

PostPosted: Mon Jun 14, 2010 3:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BoholDiver wrote:
I feel Filipinos are about as qualified as South Africans to teach English.

They got the short end of the stick on this one.


That is an interesting way of looking at the situation.
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