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Wierd camp problem - Any ideas or theatre people out there?

 
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eljuero



Joined: 11 Aug 2009

PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 3:56 pm    Post subject: Wierd camp problem - Any ideas or theatre people out there? Reply with quote

I can�t imagine what people are thinking but I�m stuck with a rather bizarre summer camp concept. Somehow, and god knows what process this comes from, the principal and a head teacher here have dreamed up the idea of doing a play for the entire summer camp. The idea itself isn�t so weird but the parameters��

Initially, the head teacher showed me one of his horribly translated and unknown Greek plays he�s proudly used in an undecipherable textbook for his students (page from one of those publishing deals school teachers are sometimes in).

I dodged that bullet and suggested a semi-serious play from the US which could have been adapted or rewritten (12 Angry Men). There are some issues � one is that this is a public school for boys and they want 20 kids enrolled. Hence the idea for starting with 12 roles from 12 Angry Men. Word came around that the head teacher didn�t like the concept of a play about a jury � he wants a comedy.

Reasoning: The audience (apparently teachers who will watch the �production�) won�t be able to understand a serious play in English � they will, magically, understand a comedy in English.
So, any ideas from the wise and wonderful who haunt these boards (or at least an ex-Theatre major) would be greatly appreciated!!

Any plays that are simple, a comedy (the whole things is likely to look funny), understandable in English to marginally-able-to-speak Korean English teachers, requires little in the way of stage stuff and is suitable for a group of about 20 Korean high school Students?
The only that comes to mind is a medieval adaptation of something by Money Python? I�m thinkin� maybe South Korean High school students could dress in medieval English garb, pull a Trojan horse up to the DMZ and go into a full charge into N. Korean territory � but I�m open to suggestions.
A few other things to probably keep in mind:
One: I have no experience with doing a play but I�ll have a Korean co-teacher to help
Two: 20 boys � (no female roles?)
Time frame is to complete this in 3 weeks about 2 hours a day/5 days a week.
Thanks for any help.
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Steve_Rogers2008



Joined: 22 Mar 2010

PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sounds like a high school set... but given it's a foreign language, and camp play, you could go with "Really Rosie."

bit of a musical aimed at younger kids, but there's plenty of roles for the boys.... includeing their king, "Pierre, the boy who did not care." Wink

and what better way to embarrass one as the love interest for Rosie.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOBsMssUg8M
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moosehead



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 4:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

how old and what grade are the students? you didn't say.

I agree a comedy is better - the students will have more fun with it.

at least you have plenty of time for the production - most students tend to be pretty hip on current films and trends - why not go for something they are familiar with already? I had students do a scene from Transformers a couple of years ago. they had great fun, and their E was very very low.

maybe they could all be zombies and do a remake of M. Jackson's Thriller video - don't worry about the girl - you should have no problem finding one of the boys to dress up like a girl - there's one in every class Laughing
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Steve_Rogers2008



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

if they're older, highschoolers, you could have them perform Deathtrap. they can watch the movie for inspiration:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0083806/

Of course, they'll be stuck on Superman and Alfred from Batman being gay lovers... a mindblowing experience no doubt.... Wink

could be fun, 'til it comes time for the kiss.... see what dedicated thespians they are, really. Shocked
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eljuero



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 4:30 pm    Post subject: Age Reply with quote

moosehead wrote:
how old and what grade are the students? you didn't say.

I agree a comedy is better - the students will have more fun with it.

at least you have plenty of time for the production - most students tend to be pretty hip on current films and trends - why not go for something they are familiar with already? I had students do a scene from Transformers a couple of years ago. they had great fun, and their E was very very low.

maybe they could all be zombies and do a remake of M. Jackson's Thriller video - don't worry about the girl - you should have no problem finding one of the boys to dress up like a girl - there's one in every class Laughing


It looks like the students will all be "1st graders", 15 & 16 in Korean years.
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Juregen



Joined: 30 May 2006

PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 4:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just let the kids write on out themselves.
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The Goalie



Joined: 17 Nov 2009
Location: Chungcheongnamdo

PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 5:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Perhaps it's not an option but I think a kind of variety show with a series of smaller skits would be easier to pull off than one big show with so many different parts. You could also use up a couple of the kids by making them MC's and maybe a couple have some talent (singing, magic, etc.) they could show off on their own. Just a thought...
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oldfatfarang



Joined: 19 May 2005
Location: On the road to somewhere.

PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I was roped into that nonsense in 'vacation', I'd retaliate by getting them to do a production of Milan Rouge (sp).

Making every boy perform as a can can dancer would be sweet revengeee..
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eljuero



Joined: 11 Aug 2009

PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 6:42 pm    Post subject: Thanks..... Reply with quote

I appreciate all of the good ideas. I really do. Unfortunately, I think I'm running into what I now consider the familiar Great Wall of Korean thinking.

My Korean "co-worker", "helper" just returned after having an apparent meeting with the head teacher (without me). Now she says he wants three "plays".

She "explained" further - "well, if we have three plays then we can give three prizes, then we can say that the students competed for a prize in an English play and this looks good for universities later".

Then she follows up with the now familiar line of "were just concerned about you"...........

F me.

What a load.

I'll try not to segue into venting about communication here.

I wish I could count the number of times I've run into weird communication problems only to find it has little to do with educating kids. It's the school nurse, who mysteriously needs to be consulted about the unused English classroom because she's next door to it, the unusable textbook used mainly because a group of teachers published it on the side outside of school etc..

One irony for me and maybe I'm overestimating students is that I think the bright ones are actually starved for something serious, something to learn with some meat on it and the system prefers giving them cotton candy versions of things. Possibly I'm just projecting on this issue.

Again, I appreciate the ideas and I'll definitely check them out for future reference (maybe this round who knows). I see there are some really interesting ideas out there about using plays for education............those may have to wait for future countries.
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re:cursive



Joined: 04 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You mentioned modifying Monty Python in your initial post. Rather than rewriting, you could select several of the Monty Python sketches, group your students into teams and have them present their sketch or sketches at the end for judging or whatever your school wants to do.

The sketches are funny and vary in length and difficulty so you could match scripts to the levels of your various students. You could easily find videos of the original versions to show the students and help them understand the sketch.

This site has scripts for hundreds of Monty Python sketches:
http://orangecow.org/pythonet/sketches/index.htm
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eljuero



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 9:08 pm    Post subject: Holy medieval comedy!! Reply with quote

re:cursive wrote:
You mentioned modifying Monty Python in your initial post. Rather than rewriting, you could select several of the Monty Python sketches, group your students into teams and have them present their sketch or sketches at the end for judging or whatever your school wants to do.

The sketches are funny and vary in length and difficulty so you could match scripts to the levels of your various students. You could easily find videos of the original versions to show the students and help them understand the sketch.

This site has scripts for hundreds of Monty Python sketches:
http://orangecow.org/pythonet/sketches/index.htm


I was just being facetious but that's amazing!!
I think we are finally coming to an agreement on this as of this afternoon. It looks like we'll do a play (still kicking this around) and let students create from a basic play as a model - let the kiddies elect a "director", invite some parents.....another happy group of campers Very Happy

Yet another problem solved by Dave's ESL cafe!!!

Actually looks like an interesting site...other possibilities for role plays in school.....
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NYC_Gal



Joined: 08 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 9:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the sketch script links!
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Senior



Joined: 31 Jan 2010

PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tell us how it goes.

Korean students can be spectacularly unenthusiastic when it come to this stuff. I'm rooting for you, but this has melt down, horror story written all over it. Especially if you are going to be performing it for an audience. Good luck!
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NYC_Gal



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You could also try the Grover-as-waiter sketches from Sesame Street, or a play on them.
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eljuero



Joined: 11 Aug 2009

PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 10:54 pm    Post subject: Going for the full disaster..... Reply with quote

Senior wrote:
Tell us how it goes.

Korean students can be spectacularly unenthusiastic when it come to this stuff. I'm rooting for you, but this has melt down, horror story written all over it. Especially if you are going to be performing it for an audience. Good luck!


Yeah, why play for small effect?!! It's got clusterf*** written all over it.....audience and everything.

It's a weird barrier - I really try to make good lesson plans, things that give creative possibilities to students etc.. Usually it gets a weak reception except for a few students. The older co-teachers will say the students "didn't understand" but I don't think that's what's going on in many cases. I have to say that in some cases I think the students are exhausted or have had the creativity beaten out of them by repetitive test taking and a strong preference for those who toe the line over any creative tendencies.......I haven't been here long but that's my impression.

As always thanks for your thoughts.
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