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thomas pars
Joined: 29 Jan 2009
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Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 8:47 pm Post subject: Gepik stealing my lesson plans? |
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I don't know if your school does this, but every semester the
breakdown is like this:
Some official from GEPIK comes in to "check" the work you've been doing.
All the handouts/games/writing assignments were collected by my
co-teacher for these officials to check out. Funny thing, when I was given it back today it was about 65% lighter. Games, handouts, I basically invented
are missing. I asked a friend about it and he says the inspections are just a
cover for GEPIK to come in a steal your lesson plans.
Is this madness possibly true? |
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Ramen
Joined: 15 Apr 2008
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Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 8:51 pm Post subject: |
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Who knows and who cares?
Everthing you created while employed by them are their property. |
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ThingsComeAround

Joined: 07 Nov 2008
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Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 8:53 pm Post subject: |
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I've heard a rumor that your co-teacher gets a little bonus on the lesson plans that you create.
Next time make it bare bones, put the rules in shorthand so no one knows how to use 'em.
Not like they will be used again, anyway. They will find a nice home in a dark filing cabinet in the basement of your local GPOE |
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cincynate
Joined: 07 Jul 2009 Location: Jeju-do, South Korea
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Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 9:06 pm Post subject: |
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Those lesson plans are the property of Gepik or Epik or Smoe or whatever. They paid you to make them. How is it madness, and why wouldn't you want to give em to them anyway. Isn't it good to know that your hard work is paying of to benefit some child's education? |
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drama_addict
Joined: 30 Aug 2009 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 9:14 pm Post subject: |
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ThingsComeAround wrote: |
I've heard a rumor that your co-teacher gets a little bonus on the lesson plans that you create.
Next time make it bare bones, put the rules in shorthand so no one knows how to use 'em.
Not like they will be used again, anyway. They will find a nice home in a dark filing cabinet in the basement of your local GPOE |
Do this.
SMOE does the same thing. They make us send in Lesson plans for the first six months we've worked as part of an "evaluation".
Just send in shorthand/simple outlines of the lessons. For PP presentations, just give them a copy of the the first slide. |
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AsiaESLbound
Joined: 07 Jan 2010 Location: Truck Stop Missouri
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Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 9:32 pm Post subject: |
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cincynate wrote: |
Those lesson plans are the property of Gepik or Epik or Smoe or whatever. They paid you to make them. How is it madness, and why wouldn't you want to give em to them anyway. Isn't it good to know that your hard work is paying of to benefit some child's education? |
+1 Work you do for a school is their property they get credit and benefit out of as it's not about us being the star of the show though we are just that to the kids. However you can save a backup copy and master hard copies to use in your future ESL teaching. I suspect what we learn and do in Korea could also apply to teaching in any other Asian country. The thing that is very different of course is your outside the classroom experience. It's always a very different situation outside of school, but it would seem your work is worth saving and developing if looking to go further afield. |
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Senior
Joined: 31 Jan 2010
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Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 9:45 pm Post subject: |
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You are payed to create lesson plans. You don't own the material that you create. You are free to use it in other contexts, but it is not your intellectual property or anything.
You shouldn't give them the master copy of your material, if you plan on using it again. |
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kiwipenny
Joined: 22 Mar 2010 Location: South Korea
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Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 9:50 pm Post subject: lesson plans |
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They may also distribute those plans to others who are teaching for the first time.. they may use them as examples in training sessions... that can only be helpful to anyone who sees them ^^
Wouldn't be upset about it and just do what some of the others said above.. make sure you have copies of everything and that way you have your work for future classes and GEPIK has a copy too~~
It doesn't happen at every school as my co-teachers very rarely even bother to make plans~ we just discuss what we are doing and do it... I keep my own records for use in any future job on my own USB~ |
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shcforward
Joined: 27 Sep 2009
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Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 10:00 pm Post subject: |
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You are overestimating the bureaucracy. They have mountains of lesson plans sitting around just for the sake of them sitting around. Your co-workers will steal your ideas and lesson plans, but people in district offices probably only want them just to fill up filing cabinets. |
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jonpurdy
Joined: 08 Jan 2009 Location: Ulsan
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Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 10:15 pm Post subject: |
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Keep in mind that in Canada, lesson plans you create are yours to keep. They are your intellectual property and you can do as you see fit with them including selling them.
I'm not sure how different it is here but I'd presume the lesson plans are your intellectual property but are required to give them to the MOE for evaluation purposes.
Any additional insight into this? |
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NYC_Gal

Joined: 08 Dec 2009
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Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 10:22 pm Post subject: |
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Someone recommended making your powerpoint material "read only" with a watermark with "Property of ___" in the background.
Add "Property of ___" to all of your papers  |
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oldfatfarang
Joined: 19 May 2005 Location: On the road to somewhere.
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Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 10:26 pm Post subject: |
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I once had a co-teacher (HOD English Dept.) copy all my lesson plans from my computer. She said it was to prove that were were teaching properly to the POE. Yeah, right. My other Korean co-teachers warned me that this lady was very, very, very ambitious, and that I shouldn't cross her in any way (or she would roll me). Well she did get me canned eventually (at the end of my contract).
All that aside, I believe that she promoted these lesson plans as her own work (and that's why I only provide minimal lesson plans now).
My new lesson plans just show headings for teaching instructions, i.e., Introduction; Dialog; Model/drill/; Instructions; Task 1, Task 2 etc; Feedback, Conclusion etc. They won't be getting any of my power points, either. |
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vaticanhotline
Joined: 18 Jun 2009 Location: in the most decent sometimes sun
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Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 10:38 pm Post subject: |
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jonpurdy wrote: |
Keep in mind that in Canada, lesson plans you create are yours to keep. They are your intellectual property and you can do as you see fit with them including selling them.
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Make a book of them and sell them in Canada to teachers heading to Korea in that case. You can write a little blurb along the lines of "Approved and Adopted by the Korean Government for Second Language Acquisition Classes." Gold. |
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winterfall
Joined: 21 May 2009
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Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 10:47 pm Post subject: |
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I watermark all lesson plans. Not cause of POE but, more cause of a woefully incompetent co-teacher that took everything I made and passed it off as his. Cause of that it took me more than 6 months to get my school to look at him more "Closely".
For worksheets its a bit more tricky. You can't exactly watermark them, sometimes I put copyrights on em, sometimes I don't. My kids are always looking for reasons to procrastinate, sticking a copyright on it didn't help.
Then again this co-teacher is always complaining in class about my lessons. But, every time I turn around. He's pilfering worksheets. |
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thomas pars
Joined: 29 Jan 2009
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Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 3:08 am Post subject: |
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Those lesson plans are the property of Gepik or Epik or Smoe or whatever. They paid you to make them. How is it madness, and why wouldn't you want to give em to them anyway. Isn't it good to know that your hard work is paying of to benefit some child's education? |
The thing of it is I am not so sure that it does. Maybe I m being cynical
but I don't think that GEPIK has the best of intentions with us or the
material that we create. It's like that charity English scheme a few
years back. Native teachers would come over here to volunteer there
time to disadvantaged students. What they didn't know was that the bosses
were making a profit off of their volunterring. Like that I am sure
someone, my coteacher, the principle, someone is making a buck
off my work.
I suppose the missing docs and the evaluation itself is what is bothering
me. Two beureaucrats with probably minimal English experience
and maybe even less in actual teaching come in and "evaluate" me
based on paperwork? Which they take?
I think the best responce is when asked in the future I will tell them
that this semester we only used the text book. |
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