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[jmuns]

[Sooke]

If this game were being played in Ottawa, then North Korea would have won.

http://news.nationalpost.com/2010/06/01/win-a-soccer-game-by-more-than-five-points-and-you-lose-ottawa-league-says/?preview=true&preview_id=7652&preview_nonce=e6fa056a34


WTF????

[mayorgc]

oskinny, did you stop cheering? were you being threatened?

Portugal wasn't being unsportsmanlike. Goals for and Goal differentials matter in international sporting competitions, like international hockey and soccer.

Also, Portugal basically stopped celebrating after the 5th goal, they just sorta smiled.

[jvalmer]

Well once you get a 5 goal lead, you do let off, but it doesn't mean you don't score if the opportunity is handed to you. The more the top teams beat up on the lower skilled teams, the bigger message it sends them that they need to improve.

As for Koreans cheering on the other Korea, considering that the TV weather always shows the whole peninsula and the temperatures in the North, it's not really a mystery. They share the same language, ancestry and culture, there is a bond. I wonder how the West Germans felt about East German teams back in the old days?

[flakfizer]

Well, the norks better get their act together before next match, because Ivory Coast's only shot at advancing is for Brazil to beat Portugal, and for them to beat North Korea by a ton of goals.

[catman]

North Korea watches live as its team loses big

[oskinny1]

[JMO]

As has been said already, Portugal had to score as many as possible. It's a distinct possibility that they will finish on the same point total as Ivory Coast. That tie will be decided by goal difference. Any letting up against NK would be lack of professionalism.

[JMO]

[jvalmer]

Ivory Coast is most likely out.

I think both Portugal and Brazil will want to avoid playing Spain so early. Unlucky for them Spain plays the day after. But both teams are probably content with a tie. I don't envision much of a battle in the Portugal v Brazil game, and will probably end up being a very boring game and tied.

[questionmark]

[TK421]

I'm not sure when defending totalitarian nations who treat their citizens like cattle became popular, but I haven't jumped on that bandwagon yet. Yeah, yeah, football and politics are separate, you can't mix the two, blah blah blah. BS. That applies to pretty much every nation EXCEPT North Korea. Here are plenty of reasons why I think it's wrong to support the North Korean team:


1.) Their victories will be used solely as propaganda to further brainwash their citizens into believing their country is the best, KJI is a genius and a god, and the outside world is insane.
2.) The soccer team is composed of men who live and eat much better than the poor, average, starving citizen. They are most likely within Kim Jong Il's circle of the select few people in NK who enjoy a luxury lifestyle while the rest live in poverty or concentration camps.
3.) If NK will not participate in the rest of the world, why would they participate in the world's greatest sporting tournament? There's an agenda and that's the agenda to keep their citizens under their control by making them think they live in the greatest nation on Earth.
4.) NK will only air victories on their television. Other than that, they only show heavily edited highlights to their people that shows NK looking favorable. All advertisements as well as opposing fans in the stands are blurred. They did choose to air the Portugal game but cut it off after the score was four nil to prevent their nation from looking bad. Now they'll definitely not air the next game.
5.) Their Dear Leader gives the players pep talks between halves.
6.) They say their entire drive and inspiration for playing is to make their dear leader happy. Sounds like a mixture of sports and politics to me.
7.) The millions of dollars that go to the North Korean players from FIFA will no doubt be used by the government, not the players, to fund their agenda.
8.) The whole sport debate aside, I find it utterly ridiculous to root for the team of a nation that just committed a great act of war against the country I'm currently living with just because they're the underdogs and deserve respect for getting this far.

I don't associate politics and sports with any other football team in the world except NK because in NK EVERYTHING is about the regime. Any NK product you buy, any team you support, any words of encouragement don't help the poor impoverished citizens of NK, they fuel the regime and give them fire to keep donig things they way they're doing it. Normally a team does not represent its government... but the NK team seems to do just that.

I'm tired of this PC BS about supporting North Korea. There's absolutely no reason to.

Here's an article about why you SHOULD root for NK:

http://gawker.com/5564759/why-you-should-root-for-north-koreas-world-cup-soccer-team

It's point is basically that their presence could make a difference, improve their relations in the world, and that you should root for the underdog because the citizens don't even get to watch the games.

Needless to say I disagree with the entire article but you judge for yourself.

I don't want or mean to sound like a jerk... I legitimately want to know: am I way off base on all of this? And if so, how?

[nzbradly78]

Can anybody explain to me what reporters mean when they say "decieve to flatter?" I guess another irritating habit of soccer writers is that every score seems to be "flattering" to the victor. Well, no its not. Scoring a goal seems to be really hard to do. Your score is your score. I read this "a 7-0 scoreline flatters Portugal..." Really? Really? It seemed to me that, besides a few chances, they comepletely overwhelmed North Korea. Maybe just being nice, I don't know.

[JMO]

I wonder why these players don't defect.

[nautilus]