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How to stop the drug wars
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mises



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 7:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Portugal didn't fall apart:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7FshBjkS6U&feature=player_embedded
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thomas pars



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 7:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the drug war will never end. there is too much money to be made...
on both sides.
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mises



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 8:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thomas pars wrote:
the drug war will never end. there is too much money to be made...
on both sides.


You might be right. I hope not. This guy makes a good point:

http://skepticaltexascpa.blogspot.com/2010/06/wait-listed-by-jail-16.html

The military industrial complex, prison guard unions, pharma/booze firms will want the WOD to continue but there probably won't be enough money to peruse it. I can't stress just how completely fracked city and state budgets are in the US. There are choices to be made.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mises wrote:
Portugal didn't fall apart:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7FshBjkS6U&feature=player_embedded

Even if the world does fall apart, at least we'll have legal weed to get us through it.
Mr. Green
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mises



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 12:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://missoulian.com/news/local/article_464bdc0a-0b36-11e0-a594-001cc4c03286.html

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A funny thing happened on the way to a trial in Missoula County District Court last week.

Jurors � well, potential jurors � staged a revolt.

They took the law into their own hands, as it were, and made it clear they weren�t about to convict anybody for having a couple of buds of marijuana. Never mind that the defendant in question also faced a felony charge of criminal distribution of dangerous drugs.

The tiny amount of marijuana police found while searching Touray Cornell�s home on April 23 became a huge issue for some members of the jury panel.

No, they said, one after the other. No way would they convict somebody for having a 16th of an ounce.

In fact, one juror wondered why the county was wasting time and money prosecuting the case at all, said a flummoxed Deputy Missoula County Attorney Andrew Paul.

District Judge Dusty Deschamps took a quick poll as to who might agree. Of the 27 potential jurors before him, maybe five raised their hands. A couple of others had already been excused because of their philosophical objections.

�I thought, �Geez, I don�t know if we can seat a jury,� � said Deschamps, who called a recess.

And he didn�t.

During the recess, Paul and defense attorney Martin Elison worked out a plea agreement. That was on Thursday.

On Friday, Cornell entered an Alford plea, in which he didn�t admit guilt. He briefly held his infant daughter in his manacled hands, and walked smiling out of the courtroom.

�Public opinion, as revealed by the reaction of a substantial portion of the members of the jury called to try the charges on Dec. 16, 2010, is not supportive of the state�s marijuana law and appeared to prevent any conviction from being obtained simply because an unbiased jury did not appear available under any circumstances,� according to the plea memorandum filed by his attorney.

�A mutiny,� said Paul.

�Bizarre,� the defense attorney called it.

In his nearly 30 years as a prosecutor and judge, Deschamps said he�s never seen anything like it.


Neat-o.
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Space Bar



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 10:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mises wrote:
http://missoulian.com/news/local/article_464bdc0a-0b36-11e0-a594-001cc4c03286.html

Quote:
A funny thing happened on the way to a trial in Missoula County District Court last week.

Jurors � well, potential jurors � staged a revolt.

They took the law into their own hands, as it were, and made it clear they weren�t about to convict anybody for having a couple of buds of marijuana. Never mind that the defendant in question also faced a felony charge of criminal distribution of dangerous drugs.

The tiny amount of marijuana police found while searching Touray Cornell�s home on April 23 became a huge issue for some members of the jury panel.

No, they said, one after the other. No way would they convict somebody for having a 16th of an ounce.

In fact, one juror wondered why the county was wasting time and money prosecuting the case at all, said a flummoxed Deputy Missoula County Attorney Andrew Paul.

District Judge Dusty Deschamps took a quick poll as to who might agree. Of the 27 potential jurors before him, maybe five raised their hands. A couple of others had already been excused because of their philosophical objections.

�I thought, �Geez, I don�t know if we can seat a jury,� � said Deschamps, who called a recess.

And he didn�t.

During the recess, Paul and defense attorney Martin Elison worked out a plea agreement. That was on Thursday.

On Friday, Cornell entered an Alford plea, in which he didn�t admit guilt. He briefly held his infant daughter in his manacled hands, and walked smiling out of the courtroom.

�Public opinion, as revealed by the reaction of a substantial portion of the members of the jury called to try the charges on Dec. 16, 2010, is not supportive of the state�s marijuana law and appeared to prevent any conviction from being obtained simply because an unbiased jury did not appear available under any circumstances,� according to the plea memorandum filed by his attorney.

�A mutiny,� said Paul.

�Bizarre,� the defense attorney called it.

In his nearly 30 years as a prosecutor and judge, Deschamps said he�s never seen anything like it.


Neat-o.

Great story, mises.

People should also be cognizant of the possibility of jury nullification, i.e. even if the prosecution demonstrates that the defendant committed all the elements of the crime, the jury still retains the power to acquit if they believe it would serve the interests of justice.
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