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		| Feah 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 7:44 pm    Post subject: New gaming rig |   |  
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				| So I was thinking of building a new gaming PC since I'll be heading back to Korea soon and FFXIV is coming out relatively soon so I need to be ready x.x; 
 My only concern is what happens when I leave, I was thinking of taking it apart before I head home, leave the PSU & case and put all the other parts carefully in my suitcase (I don't want to ship it since I'd be charged a lot for tax most likely).
 
 I could sell it but if possible don't want to do so since I'd be loosing money.
 
 Anywho, my question is, if you were in my situation what would you choose;
 
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 PC
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 CPU: i5-750
 RAM: 6gb DDR3
 MB: Any that supports the above two
 GFX: HD5870 1gb
 PSU: Around a 600watt
 HDD: 40gb SSD
 HDD#2: 1tb 7200RPM
 24" Monitor
 Case: Cheapo one
 
 Total cost around 1.8mil
 
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 Laptop
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 CPU: i5-430
 RAM: 4gb DDR3
 GFX: HD5870 1gb
 HDD: 320gb
 Screen: 17"
 
 Total cost around 1.5mil and I can take it home.
 
 I have absolutely no experience in laptop gaming machines, not sure how hot they get, how long they last, how reliable they are.
 
 But taking my current situation, what would you guys recommend?
 
 Thanks.
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		| ttompatz 
 
  
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 Location: Kwangju, South Korea
 
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				|  Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 7:56 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| A desktop is ALWAYS better than a laptop. 
 Your desktop rig will only weigh in at about 15kg (sans monitor). It IS possible to stick it in a large suitcase or the box that the  computer case came in and bring it as a complete unit (IF you are coming from North America (they have big baggage allowances)).
 
 IF you in fact are comfortable breaking it down then everything will fit into the  motherboard box and come easily (sans monitor, PS and case). This would weigh in at about 3kg (with HDDs).
 
 I have in fact done both with no problems or damage to my rigs.
 
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		| eamo 
 
  
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				|  Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 8:41 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| I'g go with the PC every time.......especially if you're a gamer......I think the specs matter less than the screen......these days 26-27'' widescreen monitors are affordable.... 
 .....I'd be pretty depressed if I had to game on a 17'' laptop monitor with those yucky keyboards.
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		| Feah 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 2:57 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Ah the monitor I will sell I think, since I don't mind selling the monitor and loosing a bit of money on 1 item. 
 And ttompatz, the rig will be going from Korea to England. Chances are I will have only 20kg baggage allowance and 10kg hand luggage allowance, their tight as hell -.-' America is a different story haha.
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		| ttompatz 
 
  
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				|  Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 4:41 am    Post subject: |   |  
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	  | Feah wrote: |  
	  | Ah the monitor I will sell I think, since I don't mind selling the monitor and loosing a bit of money on 1 item. 
 And ttompatz, the rig will be going from Korea to England. Chances are I will have only 20kg baggage allowance and 10kg hand luggage allowance, their tight as hell -.-' America is a different story haha.
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 Ya, then tear it down... 3kg all in and pick up a new case, PS, keyboard and monitor when you arrive.
 
 I only get 15k +7k when traveling on the discount airlines here in SE Asia.
 
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		| lost at sea 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 7:43 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| I would rig it with 2 hard drives. One SSD for the OS and applications that require speed. The second hard drive for media and data files you want to backup like movies etc. 
 The reason is, an SSD that is wrote to often will die very fast. The life can be incredibly short, so limiting the writing to it will help it survive longer. Keep the writing limited to the OS and heavy applications and games.
 
 The other tip is to make sure you are using a 64 bit OS, a 32 bit OS can not use more than 4gb of RAM.
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		| Feah 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 12:22 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Yep that's the reason why I plan on getting only a 40gb SSD (and the price -.-) 
 The only thing it will house is the OS. All the games etc will be stored on the traditional HDD.
 
 In terms of OS being 64, undoubtedly ^_-
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		| Meatex 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 7:49 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| I would recommend a gaming laptop from alienware You will be able to get similar or better specs and you can always output hdmi to a big screen TV
 Not to mention Alienware will have international warrenty
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		| kwokman 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 11:04 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| I would install the games that require heavy loading onto the SSD. Makes no sense to not take advantage of the speed when you have it especially with games that require loading speed. Also, make sure you disable some options that Windows presets for hard drives like defragging and if you're not using Windows 7, make sure that the SSD supports TRIM as it will greatly improve the life and quality of your SSD. |  | 
	
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		| lost at sea 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 6:35 am    Post subject: |   |  
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	  | kwokman wrote: |  
	  | I would install the games that require heavy loading onto the SSD. Makes no sense to not take advantage of the speed when you have it especially with games that require loading speed. Also, make sure you disable some options that Windows presets for hard drives like defragging and if you're not using Windows 7, make sure that the SSD supports TRIM as it will greatly improve the life and quality of your SSD. |  
 Or use another OS all together. I would use Linux or Windows XP. However Linux isn't ideal for gaming, but many games can be run with some tweaking. Windows XP is pretty much the best gaming OS out there, low resources used by the OS and can be hacked and tweaked to no end.
 
 A 64 bit Windows XP and heavy loading games installed on an SSD will be incredibly fast.
 
 Keep in mind, an idle Windows 7 runs around 800mb RAM. My Linux system running idle is less than 90mb RAM. I assume XP is around the RAM usage of Linux.
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		| 8 years down 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 7:20 am    Post subject: |   |  
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	  | lost at sea wrote: |  
	  | Windows XP is pretty much the best gaming OS out there, low resources used by the OS and can be hacked and tweaked to no end. |  
 Unless you want to play a game in DX10 or higher in the future. I seriously would not build a new rig with XP.
 
 An i7 system typically has 6gb of RAM for starters so there's no need to worry about a heavy OS. A fully updated Vista 64 tweaked a touch for gaming will run games smooth as silk. Same with 7.
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