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Jimskins



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 4:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice to see the cheating Italians go home early, a bit of payback for Materazzi's despicable behaviour which helped land them the last world cup.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 5:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Privateer



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 6:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rusty1983 wrote:
cj1976 wrote:
Acthung! Ze Germans are coming! I can only imagine the lazy war references that the tabloids back home will be rattling out in the build up to the game against Germany.


In a word - balls. Germany in the next round and then if we manage to get out of that alive the Argies will likely be next. If they intend on performing well at all they might wanna think about it soon. USA have screwed us over!


We screwed ourselves over. And Rob Green did.

Still, when you face the world's best it makes it more exciting if we win, and less disappointing if we don't. If we win, the victory is sweeter; if we lose but in a hardfought battle, we can still hold our heads up high.
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flakfizer



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I never followed the WC before 2002 and that was because I was here when it was hosted, so I don't know much about the WC, but for those of you who do: Is it unusual or surprising to see the Americas do this well? The Americas send 8 teams to WC and 7 of them (all but Honduras) have advanced to the knockouts.
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jvalmer



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 4:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

flakfizer wrote:
I never followed the WC before 2002 and that was because I was here when it was hosted, so I don't know much about the WC, but for those of you who do: Is it unusual or surprising to see the Americas do this well? The Americas send 8 teams to WC and 7 of them (all but Honduras) have advanced to the knockouts.


South America is covered by CONMEBOL. 10 countries and 4.5 of the 10 teams are in the World Cup. These countries have a history of football excellence. All the World Cups held outside of Europe have been won by a country in South America. Brazil and Argentina are the class of the region, but the other countries have given both teams scares in qualifying.

North America, Caribbean and Central America is in CONCACAF. This region covers Canada and all the countries down to Panama. Usually have 3.5 teams alloted to the World Cup. Traditionally Mexico was the only decent team in this region. But in the last 10 years the USA have shown their strength. 1994 they qualified for the knock-stages, 2002 they made it to the quarter-finals. However I don't see the USA winning a World Cup anytime soon. Mexico probably has a better chance than the US, but even Mexico is a long shot in winning a World Cup.
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flakfizer



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jvalmer wrote:
flakfizer wrote:
I never followed the WC before 2002 and that was because I was here when it was hosted, so I don't know much about the WC, but for those of you who do: Is it unusual or surprising to see the Americas do this well? The Americas send 8 teams to WC and 7 of them (all but Honduras) have advanced to the knockouts.


South America is covered by CONMEBOL. 10 countries and 4.5 of the 10 teams are in the World Cup. These countries have a history of football excellence. All the World Cups held outside of Europe have been won by a country in South America. Brazil and Argentina are the class of the region, but the other countries have given both teams scares in qualifying.

North America, Caribbean and Central America is in CONCACAF. This region covers Canada and all the countries down to Panama. Usually have 3.5 teams alloted to the World Cup. Traditionally Mexico was the only decent team in this region. But in the last 10 years the USA have shown their strength. 1994 they qualified for the knock-stages, 2002 they made it to the quarter-finals. However I don't see the USA winning a World Cup anytime soon. Mexico probably has a better chance than the US, but even Mexico is a long shot in winning a World Cup.

Well, when I said I didn't know much about the WC, I didn't mean I knew nothing. I know about conmenol and concacaf. I certainly know that Brazil and Argentina are almost always good, but in this WC, even Chile, Paraguay, the US are advancing while traditional European teams like Italy and France are not. It's one thing to have a couple dominant teams (like Brazil) but this WC the whole New World is doing well.

EDIT: Just found an article on this very topic: http://g.sports.yahoo.com/soccer/world-cup/news/clean-sweep-for-south-america-at-wcup--fbintl_ap-wcup-southamericacleansweep.html
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jvalmer



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 7:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

flakfizer wrote:
Well, when I said I didn't know much about the WC, I didn't mean I knew nothing. I know about conmenol and concacaf. I certainly know that Brazil and Argentina are almost always good, but in this WC, even Chile, Paraguay, the US are advancing while traditional European teams like Italy and France are not. It's one thing to have a couple dominant teams (like Brazil) but this WC the whole New World is doing well.

EDIT: Just found an article on this very topic: http://g.sports.yahoo.com/soccer/world-cup/news/clean-sweep-for-south-america-at-wcup--fbintl_ap-wcup-southamericacleansweep.html


As a Brazilian friend said to me once, there are no easy teams in South America. All are good, Brazil and Argentina are always contenders and the others have outside chances of winning.

For some weird reason European teams have a history of doing lousy outside of Europe. In 2002 France and Portugal didn't make it into the next round. Some of the talking heads on the sports channel claim things like unfamiliar surroundings, climate, time change, etc. I think it's unfamiliar surroundings, I think European players don't like playing in non-European countries. The insects and smells might be different or something.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 3:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Argentina versus Germany in only 2 hours. I've been waiting days for this game! I expect it to be a cracker.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 4:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This clip is so cute.

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Mosley



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 5:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow. The World Cup. Who needs sedatives when this snoozefest is on?

I would've been harsher than this local columnist's op-ed, but it's reasonably accurate & well written.

http://www.thestarphoenix.com/sports/Soccer+boring+beautiful/3231445/story.html


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nautilus



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 7:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

...and thats a 4-0 hiding for Argentina.

Can't say I'm sad to see them go. I am surprised they were so outclassed, but they had that cold, clinical German control to deal with^^.
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cj1976



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 8:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For the first time ever, I actually looked forward to watching Germany. From their first game against Australia, I had a feeling they could win the WC.
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Privateer



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 10:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

4:0!!! Shocked

Just amazing.
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Privateer



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 10:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mosley wrote:
Wow. The World Cup. Who needs sedatives when this snoozefest is on?

I would've been harsher than this local columnist's op-ed, but it's reasonably accurate & well written.

http://www.thestarphoenix.com/sports/Soccer+boring+beautiful/3231445/story.html


Who needs sedatives when you have articles like that? And how you can post this after seeing the way Germany played is beyond me.
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Mosley



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 11:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I never saw "Germany" playing anything remotely resembling soccer.

How could I? Faced with the choice of watching the WC & watching paint dry, I chose the latter because I needed a "pick-me-upper."
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