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Faunaki
Joined: 15 Jun 2007
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It's strange how I feel. One month ago I thought I could live in Korea for a long time. Now, I want to go home. I think I just need a vacay. It's been 3 years since I've been home.
I haven't felt this way (badly) about Korea for a long time. |
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Underwaterbob
Joined: 08 Jan 2005
Location: In Cognito
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| Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 5:49 pm Post subject: |
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| I don't think I've ever been "done" with a place except maybe my podunk hometown of 6000 redneck lobster fishermen. I avoid the existential dilemma by tolerating work and making the absolute most of my free time. |
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creeper1
Joined: 30 Jan 2007
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| Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 6:16 pm Post subject: Independent |
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[quote="Janny"]It's my sixth year (not consecutive) and I feel as I'm always in a state of "being done". What keeps me here is sheer laziness.
Will I come back? Maybe. quote]
I can offer an independent opinion of what will happen in your future. You say you are lazy. Congratulations! At least you have made an honest assesment of yourself. Now I can say this - A leopard never changes it's spots. So you will remain lazy. This is a lethal disposition in today's hyper mental competitive job market back home. Indeed not just a hard working attitude is needed but also good connections and a get-up-and-go-attitude.
And let's be honest even that's not enough most of the time.
SO to sum up I give you these odds.
Chances of success in Canada - 2%
Chances of return to Korea - 88%
Chances of going to some third country - 10% |
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ThingsComeAround
Joined: 07 Nov 2008
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| Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 6:36 pm Post subject: |
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I think I'll leave if one of two things happen:
Getting accepted to a grad program back home
Getting a job back home
Unfortunately, cost of living at home is way way higher than it is here.
I'd stay if I find a job outside the ESL industry in Korea (hopefully in IT)
Marriage can't anchor me here. The good food makes me want to stay. The fact that others like me (foreigners) are on a revolving door every few years doesn't help my desire to stay, either. |
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Yaya
Joined: 25 Feb 2003
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 7:12 pm Post subject: |
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I think grad school is one way to go back home, but oftentimes, I find former Korea vets coming back to the Land of the Morning Calm.
I've been in Korea for most of my adult life and while I have thought of going back (and did for two years, with disastrous results), I know the reality of living in the U.S. again: routine and boring life, disgusting obesity, high cost of living, disgusting obesity, eroding opportunities, disgusting obesity, harder to meet people, disgusting obesity, people who have no idea of your overseas experience, disgusting obesity, the itch to answer the call of the wild again, and disgusting obesity.
I have no desire to live in the U.S. again and might try life in another Asian country but well, Korea has been financially good to me so I'll stay. |
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Janny
Joined: 02 Jul 2008
Location: all over the place
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| Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 8:50 pm Post subject: |
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I can offer an independent opinion of what will happen in your future. You say you are lazy. Congratulations! At least you have made an honest assesment of yourself. Now I can say this - A leopard never changes it's spots. So you will remain lazy. This is a lethal disposition in today's hyper mental competitive job market back home. Indeed not just a hard working attitude is needed but also good connections and a get-up-and-go-attitude.
And let's be honest even that's not enough most of the time.
SO to sum up I give you these odds.
Chances of success in Canada - 2%
Chances of return to Korea - 88%
Chances of going to some third country - 10% |
Thanks for your input. You're probably dead on.
I am hoping for something more like this, thinking realistically and also the fact that I know myself better than you do. You also underestimate my dislike of Korea.
Chances of success in canada: 5%
Chances of return to Korea: 60%
Chances of going to some third country: 35% |
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Yaya
Joined: 25 Feb 2003
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 9:45 pm Post subject: |
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I can offer an independent opinion of what will happen in your future. You say you are lazy. Congratulations! At least you have made an honest assesment of yourself. Now I can say this - A leopard never changes it's spots. So you will remain lazy. This is a lethal disposition in today's hyper mental competitive job market back home. Indeed not just a hard working attitude is needed but also good connections and a get-up-and-go-attitude.
And let's be honest even that's not enough most of the time.
SO to sum up I give you these odds.
Chances of success in Canada - 2%
Chances of return to Korea - 88%
Chances of going to some third country - 10% |
Thanks for your input. You're probably dead on.
I am hoping for something more like this, thinking realistically and also the fact that I know myself better than you do. You also underestimate my dislike of Korea.
Chances of success in canada: 5%
Chances of return to Korea: 60%
Chances of going to some third country: 35% |
You say the poster underestimates your dislike of Korea yet you put your chances of returning at 60 percent?  |
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atwood
Joined: 26 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 9:57 pm Post subject: |
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I can offer an independent opinion of what will happen in your future. You say you are lazy. Congratulations! At least you have made an honest assesment of yourself. Now I can say this - A leopard never changes it's spots. So you will remain lazy. This is a lethal disposition in today's hyper mental competitive job market back home. Indeed not just a hard working attitude is needed but also good connections and a get-up-and-go-attitude.
And let's be honest even that's not enough most of the time.
SO to sum up I give you these odds.
Chances of success in Canada - 2%
Chances of return to Korea - 88%
Chances of going to some third country - 10% |
Thanks for your input. You're probably dead on.
I am hoping for something more like this, thinking realistically and also the fact that I know myself better than you do. You also underestimate my dislike of Korea.
Chances of success in canada: 5%
Chances of return to Korea: 60%
Chances of going to some third country: 35% |
Recognizing a personality flaw is the first and most important step to overcoming it. You don't have to stay lazy if you don't wish to. More than likely, you just need to figure out what motivates you and makes you want to work at it. |
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atwood
Joined: 26 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 10:10 pm Post subject: |
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I think grad school is one way to go back home, but oftentimes, I find former Korea vets coming back to the Land of the Morning Calm.
I've been in Korea for most of my adult life and while I have thought of going back (and did for two years, with disastrous results), I know the reality of living in the U.S. again: routine and boring life, disgusting obesity, high cost of living, disgusting obesity, eroding opportunities, disgusting obesity, harder to meet people, disgusting obesity, people who have no idea of your overseas experience, disgusting obesity, the itch to answer the call of the wild again, and disgusting obesity.
I have no desire to live in the U.S. again and might try life in another Asian country but well, Korea has been financially good to me so I'll stay. |
The cost of living in most of the U.S. is nowhere near what it is in Seoul. It's as easy as 1-2-3 to meet people in the U.S. I can speak with more strangers in one day in the U.S. than I could riding the subway in Seoul for a year. Korea is the definition of routine and boring. Surveys show people stay at work late because it's less boring than home or what few options they have to that.
Yes, there are a lot of fat people in the U.S. And that can be disgusting. But there's plenty of disgusting in Korea.
If you like Korea, fine, but you shouldn't need to unfairly characterize the U.S. to justify staying in Korea.
What's wrong with the call of the wild? |
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McGenghis
Joined: 14 Oct 2008
Location: Gangneung
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| Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 10:19 pm Post subject: |
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Fortunately, me old pa left me a pile of Canadian wilderness in which to get lost. I have never considered going back to Canada for the grind; what does lure me however is the thought of those endless acres of spruce trees sans humans just getting along.
When I think of grad school, I think of submitting to the death sentence without so much as an audible fart of protest. Then again, I willingly placed my hairy neck on the guillotine of outsourced unemployment by signing up for a bachelor's degree.
I'm one of those who figure that humans have had a good run but are going to meet with a malfunctioning gas range in a few years. I'll be watching from the hills. Please do write. |
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shifty
Joined: 21 Jun 2004
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| Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 10:30 pm Post subject: |
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Janny, I suspect that you have an artistic-type personality. You need lots of time to consider and get things done. The feedback to self of this trait is that you are lazy. Entirely misleading.
Assuming you do have this artistic persona, you should look out for a job that affords lots of time for its requirements. It needn't be low paying. Such as sales on big ticket items. Every sale is slow-moving, yet stressful of course in its own way. Just up yr alley.
I forsee in the stars a rich and contented Janny. |
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Yaya
Joined: 25 Feb 2003
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 10:49 pm Post subject: |
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I think grad school is one way to go back home, but oftentimes, I find former Korea vets coming back to the Land of the Morning Calm.
I've been in Korea for most of my adult life and while I have thought of going back (and did for two years, with disastrous results), I know the reality of living in the U.S. again: routine and boring life, disgusting obesity, high cost of living, disgusting obesity, eroding opportunities, disgusting obesity, harder to meet people, disgusting obesity, people who have no idea of your overseas experience, disgusting obesity, the itch to answer the call of the wild again, and disgusting obesity.
I have no desire to live in the U.S. again and might try life in another Asian country but well, Korea has been financially good to me so I'll stay. |
The cost of living in most of the U.S. is nowhere near what it is in Seoul. It's as easy as 1-2-3 to meet people in the U.S. I can speak with more strangers in one day in the U.S. than I could riding the subway in Seoul for a year. Korea is the definition of routine and boring. Surveys show people stay at work late because it's less boring than home or what few options they have to that.
Yes, there are a lot of fat people in the U.S. And that can be disgusting. But there's plenty of disgusting in Korea.
If you like Korea, fine, but you shouldn't need to unfairly characterize the U.S. to justify staying in Korea.
What's wrong with the call of the wild? |
Dude, I was just saying why I wouldn't live in the U.S. again, that's all. I am merciless when it comes to fat people, plain and simple. You have waistlines in Korea expanding but it's nowhere near as bad as the U.S., which should be renamed the fat bastard federation.
I never said the call of the wild was bad. What I meant was that why not answer it instead of resigning yourself to life back home, that's all.
I know most Americans who teach in Korea eventually return to the U.S., but all I meant was why I personally wouldn't go back. |
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mt01ap
Joined: 04 Nov 2006
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| Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 10:52 pm Post subject: |
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I'm leaving Korea in the August, but I definitely not done or fed up with Korea, even after three and a half years. But I don't know if I'll make it back to Korea again. Going back for the one-year teaching program in Ontario and honestly don't know where I'll be after that.
But I'm pretty positive and look forward to going on after this current run in Korea |
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DeMayonnaise
Joined: 02 Nov 2008
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| Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 11:10 pm Post subject: |
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I think grad school is one way to go back home, but oftentimes, I find former Korea vets coming back to the Land of the Morning Calm.
I've been in Korea for most of my adult life and while I have thought of going back (and did for two years, with disastrous results), I know the reality of living in the U.S. again: routine and boring life, disgusting obesity, high cost of living, disgusting obesity, eroding opportunities, disgusting obesity, harder to meet people, disgusting obesity, people who have no idea of your overseas experience, disgusting obesity, the itch to answer the call of the wild again, and disgusting obesity.
I have no desire to live in the U.S. again and might try life in another Asian country but well, Korea has been financially good to me so I'll stay. |
The cost of living in most of the U.S. is nowhere near what it is in Seoul. It's as easy as 1-2-3 to meet people in the U.S. I can speak with more strangers in one day in the U.S. than I could riding the subway in Seoul for a year. Korea is the definition of routine and boring. Surveys show people stay at work late because it's less boring than home or what few options they have to that.
Yes, there are a lot of fat people in the U.S. And that can be disgusting. But there's plenty of disgusting in Korea.
If you like Korea, fine, but you shouldn't need to unfairly characterize the U.S. to justify staying in Korea.
What's wrong with the call of the wild? |
Dude, I was just saying why I wouldn't live in the U.S. again, that's all. I am merciless when it comes to fat people, plain and simple. You have waistlines in Korea expanding but it's nowhere near as bad as the U.S., which should be renamed the fat bastard federation.
I never said the call of the wild was bad. What I meant was that why not answer it instead of resigning yourself to life back home, that's all.
I know most Americans who teach in Korea eventually return to the U.S., but all I meant was why I personally wouldn't go back. |
C'mon, don't hold back now, tell us how you REALLY feel about fat people!
I don't know how anyone could say the cost of living here is higher than back home. When apartments (or a housing stipend) are standard in any contract, utilities are cheap, transportation is cheap, taxes are low and entertainment options cheap, it's much, much easier to live comfortably and save money in Korea.
I live much, much more comfortably and save much, much more money here as an unqualified "edutainer" ESL teacher than real, certified public school teachers do in the US. And that's if that teacher can even find a job, which are rare these days. Pretty easy to find a job here in Korea. |
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Stalin84
Joined: 30 Dec 2009
Location: Haebangchon, Seoul
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| Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 12:26 am Post subject: |
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Some people are just fat by nature. I think that's pretty rare.
In the US, everyone is fat and claiming it's their nature. It's not! It's because they're lazy. Those kinds of fat people annoy me and are one major thing I don't miss about back home. |
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