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Globutron
Joined: 13 Feb 2010 Location: England/Anyang
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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 6:36 am Post subject: Vent vent vent |
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Bad day. Bad day. First bad day in 4.5 months. Women are so unprofessional. From finding the place perfect, to wanting to quit in a single day.
Vent vent vent. |
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WadRUG'naDoo
Joined: 15 Jun 2010 Location: Shanghai
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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 7:58 am Post subject: |
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Do tell. |
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Hyeon Een

Joined: 24 Jun 2005
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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 9:00 am Post subject: |
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Yeah.. I want at least a 5 paragraph essay about this. It'll probably be most entertaining. (Though surely frustrating for the OP!) |
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PatrickGHBusan
Joined: 24 Jun 2008 Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -
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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 9:18 am Post subject: |
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I vote for at least 7 paragraphs
It wil also be fun to watch the nutjobs swarm on this one...  |
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Globutron
Joined: 13 Feb 2010 Location: England/Anyang
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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 9:45 am Post subject: |
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ugh, well it's only about one sentence worth of info, but I'm good at tangents so I'll see if I can expand to seven. In order to make this count as one I need a couple more sentences. That will suffice.
So to transition from one to the next as one should, I arrived late by half an hour, since i was not told to come half an hour earlier for a meeting, just that there WAS a meeting. I then had to sit for a good 45 minutes listening to my friend get obliterated into submission by the korean teachers. They have always hated him and make any excuse to annihilate him. They also like to do it in meetings in order to humiliate him and degrade him like a dog that sh*t on the sofa.
After that passed they gave out some new rules, rules that we have been doing wrong for months, but they failed to actually mention it to us. Only now do they yell at us for doing what they never taught. I was actually showed incorrectly (how to fill in some daily forms in this example) by the previous foreign teacher. 4.5 months ago...
We were told that from now, every wednesday we have to prepare a 15-20 minute presentation on how we teach particular classes etc. I'm first. I wasn't aware I was to be given homework in this job, but I suppose it's acceptable, if only the biggest loathing of all existence for me is presentations. I'm like a rabbit in headlights, and I'm first.
After another 15 minutes of b*tching, to the point that everyone in the room on the left side is in agonizing hatred to the right side of the room, the boss goes 'so i'd like to take us all out next tuesday, everyone up for it?'. Then a bit more b*tching.
Towards the end of the day, I let students go 1.5 minutes early, as I have, as well as all other staff have done frequently since I got here months ago, to find that I get battered for doing so, the kids brought back out of the bus and back into their seats to watch me get yelled at, before leaving again. Told me I finished the book too early even though I specifically recall her saying 'I don't care about this book, just get it finished and out of the way quickly'. so we have to go through the book again.
8 seconds later we get attacked for leaving our food on the table in the food room, and the koreans arent maids to pick up after us, so we had to go and pick it up whilst being watched like kids being punished for ripping up toilet roll or something. Let me highlight again that we have done this constantly for 4.5 months, leaving it for the MAID to clean up.
Now it's all very well telling us what we do wrong - even if you don't tell us the rules in the first place, which they failed to do on all accounts, but to actually yell and degrade us for a first time offence, not even being aware that its an offence? Hell no.
The new teacher has been here one week and she is already looking for new work. Since the previous guy left, it has gone vertically downhill from wonderful to Keanu Reeves awful. Oops, that was more than 7.
whoever read this far, I applaud you. I'll add an additional note to actually make this post worthwhile...
What would YOU do? bearing in mind it has been wonderful until the last week where it's just gotten cold, bitter and nasty. |
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Hyeon Een

Joined: 24 Jun 2005
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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 11:56 am Post subject: |
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Sounds awful.
Here are my two solutions:
(1) Quit. Sounds terrible. Things may get better but they probably won't.
(2) Go out next Tuesday. Have dinner with the boss. Drink with the boss. Make the boss like you. Chill him out and make him relax. There is probably some crazy shit you don't know about. Make him like you if you can. Listen to his woes and sympathize. This will help if you decide to stay. If this does not appeal go with (1). |
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Sector7G
Joined: 24 May 2008
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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 3:25 pm Post subject: |
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Globutron wrote: |
Now it's all very well telling us what we do wrong - even if you don't tell us the rules in the first place, which they failed to do on all accounts, but to actually yell and degrade us for a first time offence, not even being aware that its an offence? Hell no.
8 seconds later we get attacked for leaving our food on the table in the food room, and the koreans arent maids to pick up after us, so we had to go and pick it up whilst being watched like kids being punished for ripping up toilet roll or something. Let me highlight again that we have done this constantly for 4.5 months, leaving it for the MAID to clean up.
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I switched the order of these two paragraphs because I first want to make it clear that I agree with a lot of what you say - you should not be b*tched at for things you were not told about, or in some cases actually told to do another way.
But why does one need to be asked to clean up after themselves? I am a little sensitive to this because I work with a couple people(western) who are constantly leaving their food remains all over the teacher's room(ice cream wrappers, half empty coffee cups, crumbs from whatever they were eating, and the little plastic bowls and spoons or chopsticks they ate it with or from). I am surprised it took them 4.5 months to say anything about this. I remember a sign frequently posted back in employee break rooms stateside that read, "You're Mother Does not Work Here! Clean Up After Yourself!"
So, on this one point, I have to agree with them. Sorry! |
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eamo

Joined: 08 Mar 2003 Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.
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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 3:58 pm Post subject: |
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We were told that from now, every wednesday we have to prepare a 15-20 minute presentation on how we teach particular classes etc |
You know, if you work at an institution in Korea that actually bothers to go to this amount of effort, then you'd better sharpen up because it sounds like they want things done right.
Of course, there are thousands of other employers in Korea who don't give a fig how professional you are. You have options. |
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Bloopity Bloop

Joined: 26 Apr 2009 Location: Seoul yo
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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 4:53 pm Post subject: |
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Sector7G wrote: |
Globutron wrote: |
Now it's all very well telling us what we do wrong - even if you don't tell us the rules in the first place, which they failed to do on all accounts, but to actually yell and degrade us for a first time offence, not even being aware that its an offence? Hell no.
8 seconds later we get attacked for leaving our food on the table in the food room, and the koreans arent maids to pick up after us, so we had to go and pick it up whilst being watched like kids being punished for ripping up toilet roll or something. Let me highlight again that we have done this constantly for 4.5 months, leaving it for the MAID to clean up.
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I switched the order of these two paragraphs because I first want to make it clear that I agree with a lot of what you say - you should not be b*tched at for things you were not told about, or in some cases actually told to do another way.
But why does one need to be asked to clean up after themselves? I am a little sensitive to this because I work with a couple people(western) who are constantly leaving their food remains all over the teacher's room(ice cream wrappers, half empty coffee cups, crumbs from whatever they were eating, and the little plastic bowls and spoons or chopsticks they ate it with or from). I am surprised it took them 4.5 months to say anything about this. I remember a sign frequently posted back in employee break rooms stateside that read, "You're Mother Does not Work Here! Clean Up After Yourself!"
So, on this one point, I have to agree with them. Sorry! |
Seriously, what's the thinking in just leaving your garbage everywhere?
Sort of leads me to believe that there's a lot of other stuff you guys might be doing that slowly/gradually built up anger towards you among the staff and it just exploded that particular day because your Snickers bar wrappers and empty soda cans finally pushed them over the edge. |
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sarahsiobhan
Joined: 24 May 2009 Location: Wherever I am , I am probably drinking tea.
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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 5:46 pm Post subject: Re: Vent vent vent |
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Globutron wrote: |
Bad day. Bad day. Women are so unprofessional.
Vent vent vent. |
I totally get that you're venting and angry and frustrated, and it sounds like you have a valid complaint, but writing stuff like this is a bit out of order. I would suggest that 'the women AT MY SCHOOL are so unprofessional' might have been a better choice of words. When you are more specific, it helps prevent sweeping, generalized statements that paint half the worlds' population in a negative light. Just a thought.
I hope it gets better at your school. It sounds pretty awful. |
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Globutron
Joined: 13 Feb 2010 Location: England/Anyang
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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 9:28 pm Post subject: |
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Ok to clear up. First, the boss is female.
We leave our 'mess' because it is and has been the cleaners job to do so ever since i've been here. or i | | |