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fergalreid
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| The uneasiness of not hearing a peep from EPIK/SMOE is slowly but surely starting to create more anxiety... |
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kecharakittie
Joined: 19 May 2010
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| Last I heard EPIK had forwarded my documents to my POE of choice, Gangwon. That was a couple days ago. Now I'm just waiting. |
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WillTurnerinVanCity
Joined: 05 Dec 2007
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| Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 10:58 am Post subject: Current numbers |
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Applications Received - 1651
Interviews Passed - 944
Required Documents Recevied - 570
Applicants Currently Recommended to POE/MOE - 331
MOE/POE - # of Jobs - # of Recommended Applicants
Seoul - 180 - 88
Busan - 36 - 36
Daegu - 77 - 77
Incheon - 12 -12
Gwangju - 12 - 12
Daejeon - 37 - 37
Ulsan - 27 - 27
Gyeonggi - 12 - 12
Gangwon - 59 - 33
Chungbuk - 24 - 8
Chungnam - 0 - 0
Jeonbuk - 2 - 2
Gyeongbuk - 40 - 17
Gyeongnam - 7 -7
Jeju - 24 - 23
Those are the numbers I know of - still a fair amount of movement in Seoul and some of the POEs.
-Will at Footprints |
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lazurus
Joined: 20 Jun 2010
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Anyone who is considering working for EPIK should keep in mind that in 2009-10 EPIK over-recruited and hundreds of teachers who had already been offered contracts, visas and some even plane tickets were told their services would not be needed.
So based on that track record I don't anything EPIK offers is a done deal until you are on the ground and at their training program.
There was a write up about this on I think Footprints website because this agency actually found their recruits alternative suitable jobs while other agencies just left their applicants in the lurch.
Don't take my word read up on it yourself
http://www.footprintsrecruiting.com/
Don't get me wrong. It seems like a good program once you are on the ground I just think the people they have running the recruitment are amateurs and/or incompetent.
If you read this later and are planning to apply I would go the embassy route which you will deal with a much more professional level of greeting and everything will be streamlined by the consular or embassador= thus bypassing the amateurs and incompetency mentioned above. |
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lazurus
Joined: 20 Jun 2010
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| Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 11:22 am Post subject: Re: Current numbers |
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| WillTurnerinVanCity wrote: |
Applications Received - 1651
Interviews Passed - 944
Required Documents Recevied - 570
Applicants Currently Recommended to POE/MOE - 331
MOE/POE - # of Jobs - # of Recommended Applicants
Seoul - 180 - 88
Busan - 36 - 36
Daegu - 77 - 77
Incheon - 12 -12
Gwangju - 12 - 12
Daejeon - 37 - 37
Ulsan - 27 - 27
Gyeonggi - 12 - 12
Gangwon - 59 - 33
Chungbuk - 24 - 8
Chungnam - 0 - 0
Jeonbuk - 2 - 2
Gyeongbuk - 40 - 17
Gyeongnam - 7 -7
Jeju - 24 - 23
Those are the numbers I know of - still a fair amount of movement in Seoul and some of the POEs.
-Will at Footprints |
I would still not trust these numbers since they are from the same organization that overstaffed last year. |
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Linz
Joined: 25 Jun 2010
Location: Glasgow
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| Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 11:47 am Post subject: |
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| I applied through the embassy in London in April and hadn't heard anything since my interview. UCLES took forever in sending my CELTA certificate so I assumed the delay had cost me my chance. So I emailed the office in Seoul asking if I could just re-apply for March and the director replied saying I've been placed in Busan POE. So I think they know where most people are going, they just haven't sent contracts yet. |
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WillTurnerinVanCity
Joined: 05 Dec 2007
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| Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 12:10 pm Post subject: Re: Current numbers |
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| WillTurnerinVanCity wrote: |
Applications Received - 1651
Interviews Passed - 944
Required Documents Recevied - 570
Applicants Currently Recommended to POE/MOE - 331
MOE/POE - # of Jobs - # of Recommended Applicants
Seoul - 180 - 88
Busan - 36 - 36
Daegu - 77 - 77
Incheon - 12 -12
Gwangju - 12 - 12
Daejeon - 37 - 37
Ulsan - 27 - 27
Gyeonggi - 12 - 12
Gangwon - 59 - 33
Chungbuk - 24 - 8
Chungnam - 0 - 0
Jeonbuk - 2 - 2
Gyeongbuk - 40 - 17
Gyeongnam - 7 -7
Jeju - 24 - 23
Those are the numbers I know of - still a fair amount of movement in Seoul and some of the POEs.
-Will at Footprints |
I would still not trust these numbers since they are from the same organization that overstaffed last year. |
Hi Lazurus, just to clarify - the SMOE over hired (not EPIK), and ended up with 100 teachers with NOAs without schools. Footprints did find placements for our teachers (about 27 or so of the 100 at the SMOE in August '09) and many of those were actually with EPIK. They were really great at that point, and we very much appreciated them stepping in to help out those teachers.
So, I disagree a bit with your posts. |
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fergalreid
Joined: 02 Apr 2010
Location: Dublin, Ireland
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Glad to see Seoul is gradually - and finally - beginning to fill. Interesting to see that all the other big cities are full. My recruiter told me 11 days ago that my documents were off to Seoul and EPIK were recommending me to SMOE. Assuming my repeating 14-day curse has finally been lifted, I guess the silence isn't a bad thing  |
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lazurus
Joined: 20 Jun 2010
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| Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 3:44 pm Post subject: Re: Current numbers |
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| WillTurnerinVanCity wrote: |
| lazurus wrote: |
| WillTurnerinVanCity wrote: |
Applications Received - 1651
Interviews Passed - 944
Required Documents Recevied - 570
Applicants Currently Recommended to POE/MOE - 331
MOE/POE - # of Jobs - # of Recommended Applicants
Seoul - 180 - 88
Busan - 36 - 36
Daegu - 77 - 77
Incheon - 12 -12
Gwangju - 12 - 12
Daejeon - 37 - 37
Ulsan - 27 - 27
Gyeonggi - 12 - 12
Gangwon - 59 - 33
Chungbuk - 24 - 8
Chungnam - 0 - 0
Jeonbuk - 2 - 2
Gyeongbuk - 40 - 17
Gyeongnam - 7 -7
Jeju - 24 - 23
Those are the numbers I know of - still a fair amount of movement in Seoul and some of the POEs.
-Will at Footprints |
I would still not trust these numbers since they are from the same organization that overstaffed last year. |
Hi Lazurus, just to clarify - the SMOE over hired (not EPIK), and ended up with 100 teachers with NOAs without schools. Footprints did find placements for our teachers (about 27 or so of the 100 at the SMOE in August '09) and many of those were actually with EPIK. They were really great at that point, and we very much appreciated them stepping in to help out those teachers.
So, I disagree a bit with your posts. |
Hi Mr. or Mrs EPIK Representative:
Last time I checked SMOE was part of EPIK. Footprints found positions ONLY for the teachers they were responsible for and NOT for the other teachers that were hired by EPIK/ SMOE--these OTHER teachers were left in the wind. And as you pointed out Footprints NOT Epik covered for PART not ALL of your own incompetency.
Furthermore it was more than an "even 100" as you so conveniently state.
Your futile attempt to try to mask your own incompetency further substantiates what I had originally posted regarded the recruitment staff at EPIK/SMOE/ GEPIK (all part of the same entity). But feel free to carry on with your own senseless babbles coming up with excuses for why last year wasn't your fault and why you won't once again like you did last year leave 100s of EPIK hires in the lurch with contracts, plane tickets in hand only for them to find out that their position has been overbooked. |
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WillTurnerinVanCity
Joined: 05 Dec 2007
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| Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 5:07 pm Post subject: Re: Current numbers |
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| lazurus wrote: |
| WillTurnerinVanCity wrote: |
| lazurus wrote: |
| WillTurnerinVanCity wrote: |
Applications Received - 1651
Interviews Passed - 944
Required Documents Recevied - 570
Applicants Currently Recommended to POE/MOE - 331
MOE/POE - # of Jobs - # of Recommended Applicants
Seoul - 180 - 88
Busan - 36 - 36
Daegu - 77 - 77
Incheon - 12 -12
Gwangju - 12 - 12
Daejeon - 37 - 37
Ulsan - 27 - 27
Gyeonggi - 12 - 12
Gangwon - 59 - 33
Chungbuk - 24 - 8
Chungnam - 0 - 0
Jeonbuk - 2 - 2
Gyeongbuk - 40 - 17
Gyeongnam - 7 -7
Jeju - 24 - 23
Those are the numbers I know of - still a fair amount of movement in Seoul and some of the POEs.
-Will at Footprints |
I would still not trust these numbers since they are from the same organization that overstaffed last year. |
Hi Lazurus, just to clarify - the SMOE over hired (not EPIK), and ended up with 100 teachers with NOAs without schools. Footprints did find placements for our teachers (about 27 or so of the 100 at the SMOE in August '09) and many of those were actually with EPIK. They were really great at that point, and we very much appreciated them stepping in to help out those teachers.
So, I disagree a bit with your posts. |
Hi Mr. or Mrs EPIK Representative:
Last time I checked SMOE was part of EPIK. Footprints found positions ONLY for the teachers they were responsible for and NOT for the other teachers that were hired by EPIK/ SMOE--these OTHER teachers were left in the wind. And as you pointed out Footprints NOT Epik covered for PART not ALL of your own incompetency.
Furthermore it was more than an "even 100" as you so conveniently state.
Your futile attempt to try to mask your own incompetency further substantiates what I had originally posted regarded the recruitment staff at EPIK/SMOE/ GEPIK (all part of the same entity). But feel free to carry on with your own senseless babbles coming up with excuses for why last year wasn't your fault and why you won't once again like you did last year leave 100s of EPIK hires in the lurch with contracts, plane tickets in hand only for them to find out that their position has been overbooked. |
...whoa....
Just for the record, I wasn't trying to pick a fight over your previous statements exactly. I think you were right to say that you shouldn't trust in the numbers, EPIK did half their projected job openings a few months ago for example.
I'm just pointing out a few details you got wrong. This is the first year that Seoul is hiring entirely through EPIK. This is pretty well known, I believe. The SMOE did all its hiring directly before, with I think one semester being an exception, where they had 1/3rd of their jobs through EPIK.
Unless we're talking about two different events, when you referred to how the public schools left a bunch of people in the lurch, I thought you were talking about the SMOE in August of 2009 when they hired 100 more teachers than they had schools....people who had NOAs, contracts, and in some instances, plane tickets. At that point the SMOE was hiring directly. EPIK wasn't hiring for Seoul, and unless I'm forgetting some other colossal screwup that EPIK made that was somehow bigger than last August...I was just pointing out that you might be knocking the wrong people. SMOE messed that one up pretty large, and they deserve any criticism they get for it...but claiming that EPIK was responsible for the SMOE August 2009 disaster just isn't right.
http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=163839
http://briandeutsch.blogspot.com/2009/08/smoe-cuts-tons-of-native-speaker.html
I think you even quoted our site in your original post
http://www.footprintsrecruiting.com/about-footprints/footprints-benefits/smoe-canceled-100-jobs-in-august
As for my senseless babble...I'm pretty confident I know what I'm talking about. I don't work for EPIK, I work for Footprints. We are one of the bigger recruiters placing teachers, and we were the leading recruiter for the SMOE that year. They overhired 100, and of that 100....27 were our teachers...and EPIK, amongst others, was kind enough to step in and help us place those 27 Footprints Teachers whom the SMOE left high and dry. As for the other 73 or so teachers...their recruiters were supposed to look out of them, which I hope they did.
Like I said, I'm not saying the theme of your post (don't put 100% trust in numbers is wrong), what I'm saying is your facts about the SMOE/EPIK and all that stuff that happened in 2009 isn't on point.
Am I just overworked and missing some crucial detail in all this? If I'm wrong, I'll admit it, but since I was working through that SMOE 2009 fiasco, I'm pretty sure I'm right.
-Will (at Footprints) |
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kissdisap
Joined: 19 Feb 2010
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| Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 10:10 pm Post subject: Thanks Will (and Footprints!) |
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Will,
I'm always appreciative of your posts since you have more of a complete picture than we do. Since my #1 choice was Seoul, it looks like (assuming I'm accepted) that's where I'll end up being placed.
As for the over-hiring last Fall, I assume that with EPIK now doing the hiring for SMOE and taking into account the lessons learned from that unfortunate incident of 2009, there shouldn't be any issues with that this term? Were there any issues with SMOE during the Spring 2010 hiring?
Thanks again for any updates you can provide! |
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lazurus
Joined: 20 Jun 2010
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| Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 1:31 am Post subject: Re: Current numbers |
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| WillTurnerinVanCity wrote: |
| lazurus wrote: |
| WillTurnerinVanCity wrote: |
| lazurus wrote: |
| WillTurnerinVanCity wrote: |
Applications Received - 1651
Interviews Passed - 944
Required Documents Recevied - 570
Applicants Currently Recommended to POE/MOE - 331
MOE/POE - # of Jobs - # of Recommended Applicants
Seoul - 180 - 88
Busan - 36 - 36
Daegu - 77 - 77
Incheon - 12 -12
Gwangju - 12 - 12
Daejeon - 37 - 37
Ulsan - 27 - 27
Gyeonggi - 12 - 12
Gangwon - 59 - 33
Chungbuk - 24 - 8
Chungnam - 0 - 0
Jeonbuk - 2 - 2
Gyeongbuk - 40 - 17
Gyeongnam - 7 -7
Jeju - 24 - 23
Those are the numbers I know of - still a fair amount of movement in Seoul and some of the POEs.
-Will at Footprints |
I would still not trust these numbers since they are from the same organization that overstaffed last year. |
Hi Lazurus, just to clarify - the SMOE over hired (not EPIK), and ended up with 100 teachers with NOAs without schools. Footprints did find placements for our teachers (about 27 or so of the 100 at the SMOE in August '09) and many of those were actually with EPIK. They were really great at that point, and we very much appreciated them stepping in to help out those teachers.
So, I disagree a bit with your posts. |
Hi Mr. or Mrs EPIK Representative:
Last time I checked SMOE was part of EPIK. Footprints found positions ONLY for the teachers they were responsible for and NOT for the other teachers that were hired by EPIK/ SMOE--these OTHER teachers were left in the wind. And as you pointed out Footprints NOT Epik covered for PART not ALL of your own incompetency.
Furthermore it was more than an "even 100" as you so conveniently state.
Your futile attempt to try to mask your own incompetency further substantiates what I had originally posted regarded the recruitment staff at EPIK/SMOE/ GEPIK (all part of the same entity). But feel free to carry on with your own senseless babbles coming up with excuses for why last year wasn't your fault and why you won't once again like you did last year leave 100s of EPIK hires in the lurch with contracts, plane tickets in hand only for them to find out that their position has been overbooked. |
...whoa....
Just for the record, I wasn't trying to pick a fight over your previous statements exactly. I think you were right to say that you shouldn't trust in the numbers, EPIK did half their projected job openings a few months ago for example.
I'm just pointing out a few details you got wrong. This is the first year that Seoul is hiring entirely through EPIK. This is pretty well known, I believe. The SMOE did all its hiring directly before, with I think one semester being an exception, where they had 1/3rd of their jobs through EPIK.
Unless we're talking about two different events, when you referred to how the public schools left a bunch of people in the lurch, I thought you were talking about the SMOE in August of 2009 when they hired 100 more teachers than they had schools....people who had NOAs, contracts, and in some instances, plane tickets. At that point the SMOE was hiring directly. EPIK wasn't hiring for Seoul, and unless I'm forgetting some other colossal screwup that EPIK made that was somehow bigger than last August...I was just pointing out that you might be knocking the wrong people. SMOE messed that one up pretty large, and they deserve any criticism they get for it...but claiming that EPIK was responsible for the SMOE August 2009 disaster just isn't right.
http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=163839
http://briandeutsch.blogspot.com/2009/08/smoe-cuts-tons-of-native-speaker.html
I think you even quoted our site in your original post
http://www.footprintsrecruiting.com/about-footprints/footprints-benefits/smoe-canceled-100-jobs-in-august
As for my senseless babble...I'm pretty confident I know what I'm talking about. I don't work for EPIK, I work for Footprints. We are one of the bigger recruiters placing teachers, and we were the leading recruiter for the SMOE that year. They overhired 100, and of that 100....27 were our teachers...and EPIK, amongst others, was kind enough to step in and help us place those 27 Footprints Teachers whom the SMOE left high and dry. As for the other 73 or so teachers...their recruiters were supposed to look out of them, which I hope they did.
Like I said, I'm not saying the theme of your post (don't put 100% trust in numbers is wrong), what I'm saying is your facts about the SMOE/EPIK and all that stuff that happened in 2009 isn't on point.
Am I just overworked and missing some crucial detail in all this? If I'm wrong, I'll admit it, but since I was working through that SMOE 2009 fiasco, I'm pretty sure I'm right.
-Will (at Footprints) |
I think you missed the focus of this orignal post in that was relating to the EPIK run by the Korean National Ministry of Education and not Footbprints that were the problemms in the past.
As I again stated that the EPIK program has greatly improved from its 2000 recruitment that had no background checks and alllowed drunks, people with aids and even people criminal backgrounds to be EPIK teachers. I think it has gotten better. However, I think that if this program recruitment was handling by the agency instead of people in positions of evaluating teachers for which they themseves have no formal education or tranining in.
It's just my honest feeling that when Korean Embassies take over the recruiting and interviewing (done by EPIK as well recruiters) and leaving training for EPIK in Korea will you not have as manny dificulties. This is why JET year in and year out is simply a haeads and shoulders better run, managed program that EPIK as long as it remains in ts current state
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WillTurnerinVanCity
Joined: 05 Dec 2007
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| Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 5:16 am Post subject: Re: Thanks Will (and Footprints!) |
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| kissdisap wrote: |
Will,
I'm always appreciative of your posts since you have more of a complete picture than we do. Since my #1 choice was Seoul, it looks like (assuming I'm accepted) that's where I'll end up being placed.
As for the over-hiring last Fall, I assume that with EPIK now doing the hiring for SMOE and taking into account the lessons learned from that unfortunate incident of 2009, there shouldn't be any issues with that this term? Were there any issues with SMOE during the Spring 2010 hiring?
Thanks again for any updates you can provide! |
I don't think there were any issues in the Spring, no more than usual. There are always changes in projected numbers, which usually results in fewer positions than originally anticipated, but nothing like August '09 that I'm aware of.
-Will |
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WillTurnerinVanCity
Joined: 05 Dec 2007
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| Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 5:31 am Post subject: Re: Current numbers |
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| lazurus wrote: |
| WillTurnerinVanCity wrote: |
| lazurus wrote: |
| WillTurnerinVanCity wrote: |
| lazurus wrote: |
| WillTurnerinVanCity wrote: |
Applications Received - 1651
Interviews Passed - 944
Required Documents Recevied - 570
Applicants Currently Recommended to POE/MOE - 331
MOE/POE - # of Jobs - # of Recommended Applicants
Seoul - 180 - 88
Busan - 36 - 36
Daegu - 77 - 77
Incheon - 12 -12
Gwangju - 12 - 12
Daejeon - 37 - 37
Ulsan - 27 - 27
Gyeonggi - 12 - 12
Gangwon - 59 - 33
Chungbuk - 24 - 8
Chungnam - 0 - 0
Jeonbuk - 2 - 2
Gyeongbuk - 40 - 17
Gyeongnam - 7 -7
Jeju - 24 - 23
Those are the numbers I know of - still a fair amount of movement in Seoul and some of the POEs.
-Will at Footprints |
I would still not trust these numbers since they are from the same organization that overstaffed last year. |
Hi Lazurus, just to clarify - the SMOE over hired (not EPIK), and ended up with 100 teachers with NOAs without schools. Footprints did find placements for our teachers (about 27 or so of the 100 at the SMOE in August '09) and many of those were actually with EPIK. They were really great at that point, and we very much appreciated them stepping in to help out those teachers.
So, I disagree a bit with your posts. |
Hi Mr. or Mrs EPIK Representative:
Last time I checked SMOE was part of EPIK. Footprints found positions ONLY for the teachers they were responsible for and NOT for the other teachers that were hired by EPIK/ SMOE--these OTHER teachers were left in the wind. And as you pointed out Footprints NOT Epik covered for PART not ALL of your own incompetency.
Furthermore it was more than an "even 100" as you so conveniently state.
Your futile attempt to try to mask your own incompetency further substantiates what I had originally posted regarded the recruitment staff at EPIK/SMOE/ GEPIK (all part of the same entity). But feel free to carry on with your own senseless babbles coming up with excuses for why last year wasn't your fault and why you won't once again like you did last year leave 100s of EPIK hires in the lurch with contracts, plane tickets in hand only for them to find out that their position has been overbooked. |
...whoa....
Just for the record, I wasn't trying to pick a fight over your previous statements exactly. I think you were right to say that you shouldn't trust in the numbers, EPIK did half their projected job openings a few months ago for example.
I'm just pointing out a few details you got wrong. This is the first year that Seoul is hiring entirely through EPIK. This is pretty well known, I believe. The SMOE did all its hiring directly before, with I think one semester being an exception, where they had 1/3rd of their jobs through EPIK.
Unless we're talking about two different events, when you referred to how the public schools left a bunch of people in the lurch, I thought you were talking about the SMOE in August of 2009 when they hired 100 more teachers than they had schools....people who had NOAs, contracts, and in some instances, plane tickets. At that point the SMOE was hiring directly. EPIK wasn't hiring for Seoul, and unless I'm forgetting some other colossal screwup that EPIK made that was somehow bigger than last August...I was just pointing out that you might be knocking the wrong people. SMOE messed that one up pretty large, and they deserve any criticism they get for it...but claiming that EPIK was responsible for the SMOE August 2009 disaster just isn't right.
http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=163839
http://briandeutsch.blogspot.com/2009/08/smoe-cuts-tons-of-native-speaker.html
I think you even quoted our site in your original post
http://www.footprintsrecruiting.com/about-footprints/footprints-benefits/smoe-canceled-100-jobs-in-august
As for my senseless babble...I'm pretty confident I know what I'm talking about. I don't work for EPIK, I work for Footprints. We are one of the bigger recruiters placing teachers, and we were the leading recruiter for the SMOE that year. They overhired 100, and of that 100....27 were our teachers...and EPIK, amongst others, was kind enough to step in and help us place those 27 Footprints Teachers whom the SMOE left high and dry. As for the other 73 or so teachers...their recruiters were supposed to look out of them, which I hope they did.
Like I said, I'm not saying the theme of your post (don't put 100% trust in numbers is wrong), what I'm saying is your facts about the SMOE/EPIK and all that stuff that happened in 2009 isn't on point.
Am I just overworked and missing some crucial detail in all this? If I'm wrong, I'll admit it, but since I was working through that SMOE 2009 fiasco, I'm pretty sure I'm right.
-Will (at Footprints) |
I think you missed the focus of this orignal post in that was relating to the EPIK run by the Korean National Ministry of Education and not Footbprints that were the problemms in the past.
As I again stated that the EPIK program has greatly improved from its 2000 recruitment that had no background checks and alllowed drunks, people with aids and even people criminal backgrounds to be EPIK teachers. I think it has gotten better. However, I think that if this program recruitment was handling by the agency instead of people in positions of evaluating teachers for which they themseves have no formal education or tranining in.
It's just my honest feeling that when Korean Embassies take over the recruiting and interviewing (done by EPIK as well recruiters) and leaving training for EPIK in Korea will you not have as manny dificulties. This is why JET year in and year out is simply a haeads and shoulders better run, managed program that EPIK as long as it remains in ts current state
F |
Yeah I get what you're saying. I'm on board with EPIK being better than it was in 2000. I can even understand your opinion that the Korean Embassy should take over (though EPIK is a government program, no? So how would the Embassy/Immigration change things?). Background checks are a good idea, but how can you tell a drunk unless they are drunk in the interview? and I think people with HIV/Aids can teach just fine in North America can't they?
I just thought that you were blaming EPIK for something that they didn't do (the August SMOE '09 fiasco), when in fact EPIK was great for us at that time. One of our managers travelled to South Korea and happened to be at the airport when these SMOE teachers were coming in, along with the EPIK teachers, and EPIK officials at the airport heard what was going on and stepped up to help us. They had completed hiring at that point, and didn't have to scramble to find spots for people, but they did.
The spirit of your post was fine, but you had the facts wrong. |
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hypnotoad777
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| Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 10:50 am Post subject: Re: Current numbers |
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You might have some points Lazarus, but this is just unnecessary.
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Hi Mr. or Mrs EPIK Representative:
And as you pointed out Footprints NOT Epik covered for PART not ALL of your own incompetency.
Your futile attempt to try to mask your own incompetency further substantiates what I had originally posted regarded the recruitment staff at EPIK/SMOE/ GEPIK (all part of the same entity).
But feel free to carry on with your own senseless babbles coming up with excuses for why last year wasn't your fault. |
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