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recessiontime
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I've heard of how if Iran is attacked, China and/or Russia might get involved.
How likely is that? |
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Leon
Joined: 31 May 2010
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| Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 10:06 am Post subject: |
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| recessiontime wrote: |
I've heard of how if Iran is attacked, China and/or Russia might get involved.
How likely is that? |
Seems to me to be fairly unlikely. What would they have to gain? It's one thing to block resolutions in the security council but another thing completely to take military measures. |
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mises
Joined: 05 Nov 2007
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| Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 10:49 am Post subject: |
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43CGnZMVBjM
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| George Galloway talking about war with Iran |
He is the only one saying what needs to be said: Iran will retaliate. They will kill civilians in our cities. |
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Reggie
Joined: 21 Sep 2009
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| Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 11:30 am Post subject: |
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| What Americans need to do is cap the oil gusher in the Gulf of Mexico. If we start another war for Israel, a major one this time, while black oil-filled waves crash on our shores and hurricanes drive it inland, that'll be a sad commentary of the American people. |
It has nothing to do with the American people. |
Southern Baptists and other Protestant Christian denominations along with Jews here in the southeast seem to be jonesing for a war with Iran. If we do go to war, I hope the assets of churches and synagogues throughout the USA are liquidated and used to help finance their war. Of course, that's a pipe dream.  |
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mises
Joined: 05 Nov 2007
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| Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 11:34 am Post subject: |
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| Reggie wrote: |
| mises wrote: |
| Reggie wrote: |
| What Americans need to do is cap the oil gusher in the Gulf of Mexico. If we start another war for Israel, a major one this time, while black oil-filled waves crash on our shores and hurricanes drive it inland, that'll be a sad commentary of the American people. |
It has nothing to do with the American people. |
Southern Baptists and other Protestant Christian denominations along with Jews here in the southeast seem to be jonesing for a war with Iran. |
They know only what they are told. If I didn't hate the msm more than the devil I might want war too. |
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Reggie
Joined: 21 Sep 2009
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| Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 11:35 am Post subject: |
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| mises wrote: |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43CGnZMVBjM
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| George Galloway talking about war with Iran |
He is the only one saying what needs to be said: Iran will retaliate. They will kill civilians in our cities. |
My main concern, and I don't know enough about speedboats and the waters in the Gulf of Mexico to know if it's even possible. But I'm worried some suicide commandos could stage speedboat attacks off the Gulf coast of the USA or Mexico and detonate them when they get to oil pumps and cause numerous oil geysers. They've already said they'll cause chaos in the Persian Gulf. |
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mises
Joined: 05 Nov 2007
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| Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 11:37 am Post subject: |
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| Reggie wrote: |
| mises wrote: |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43CGnZMVBjM
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| George Galloway talking about war with Iran |
He is the only one saying what needs to be said: Iran will retaliate. They will kill civilians in our cities. |
My main concern, and I don't know enough about speedboats and the waters in the Gulf of Mexico to know if it's even possible. But I'm worried some commandos could launch speedboats off the Gulf coast of the USA or Mexico and detonate them when they get to oil pumps and cause numerous oil geysers. |
I don't believe they would do that. I do believe they'll try to sink aircraft carriers and attack civilians sites in the UK, Canada, Australia, EU and United States. |
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Reggie
Joined: 21 Sep 2009
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| Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 11:37 am Post subject: |
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| mises wrote: |
| Reggie wrote: |
| mises wrote: |
| Reggie wrote: |
| What Americans need to do is cap the oil gusher in the Gulf of Mexico. If we start another war for Israel, a major one this time, while black oil-filled waves crash on our shores and hurricanes drive it inland, that'll be a sad commentary of the American people. |
It has nothing to do with the American people. |
Southern Baptists and other Protestant Christian denominations along with Jews here in the southeast seem to be jonesing for a war with Iran. |
They know only what they are told. If I didn't hate the msm more than the devil I might want war too. |
Yeah, I feel the same way. These are good people, for the most part, but they're brainwashed. |
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mises
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| Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 12:03 pm Post subject: |
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| they're brainwashed. |
I don't know if this or this is more appropriate. |
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Leon
Joined: 31 May 2010
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| Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 12:04 pm Post subject: |
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| mises wrote: |
| Reggie wrote: |
| mises wrote: |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43CGnZMVBjM
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| George Galloway talking about war with Iran |
He is the only one saying what needs to be said: Iran will retaliate. They will kill civilians in our cities. |
My main concern, and I don't know enough about speedboats and the waters in the Gulf of Mexico to know if it's even possible. But I'm worried some commandos could launch speedboats off the Gulf coast of the USA or Mexico and detonate them when they get to oil pumps and cause numerous oil geysers. |
I don't believe they would do that. I do believe they'll try to sink aircraft carriers and attack civilians sites in the UK, Canada, Australia, EU and United States. |
I doubt that "they" would do that, but the terrorist organizations they have ties with might. |
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mises
Joined: 05 Nov 2007
Location: retired
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| Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 12:07 pm Post subject: |
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| Leon wrote: |
| mises wrote: |
| Reggie wrote: |
| mises wrote: |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43CGnZMVBjM
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| George Galloway talking about war with Iran |
He is the only one saying what needs to be said: Iran will retaliate. They will kill civilians in our cities. |
My main concern, and I don't know enough about speedboats and the waters in the Gulf of Mexico to know if it's even possible. But I'm worried some commandos could launch speedboats off the Gulf coast of the USA or Mexico and detonate them when they get to oil pumps and cause numerous oil geysers. |
I don't believe they would do that. I do believe they'll try to sink aircraft carriers and attack civilians sites in the UK, Canada, Australia, EU and United States. |
I doubt that "they" would do that, but the terrorist organizations they have ties with might. |
Yes. No difference. No sense in pretending otherwise. Several hundred thousand Iranians in LA alone. Lots of cover.
Invade the world/import the world. Just outstanding public policy. |
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Leon
Joined: 31 May 2010
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| Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 12:10 pm Post subject: |
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| mises wrote: |
| Leon wrote: |
| mises wrote: |
| Reggie wrote: |
| mises wrote: |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43CGnZMVBjM
| Quote: |
| George Galloway talking about war with Iran |
He is the only one saying what needs to be said: Iran will retaliate. They will kill civilians in our cities. |
My main concern, and I don't know enough about speedboats and the waters in the Gulf of Mexico to know if it's even possible. But I'm worried some commandos could launch speedboats off the Gulf coast of the USA or Mexico and detonate them when they get to oil pumps and cause numerous oil geysers. |
I don't believe they would do that. I do believe they'll try to sink aircraft carriers and attack civilians sites in the UK, Canada, Australia, EU and United States. |
I doubt that "they" would do that, but the terrorist organizations they have ties with might. |
Yes. No difference. No sense in pretending otherwise. 800k Iranians in LA alone. Lots of cover.
Invade the world/import the world. Just outstanding public policy. |
Big difference, mostly in how the US would respond. The likelihood of the US being willing to get involved in a war in Iran if it is indirectly attacked is far lower than if Iran directly attacks us. Iran has smart leaders, they know this. |
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mises
Joined: 05 Nov 2007
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| Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 12:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Leon wrote: |
| mises wrote: |
| Leon wrote: |
| mises wrote: |
| Reggie wrote: |
| mises wrote: |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43CGnZMVBjM
| Quote: |
| George Galloway talking about war with Iran |
He is the only one saying what needs to be said: Iran will retaliate. They will kill civilians in our cities. |
My main concern, and I don't know enough about speedboats and the waters in the Gulf of Mexico to know if it's even possible. But I'm worried some commandos could launch speedboats off the Gulf coast of the USA or Mexico and detonate them when they get to oil pumps and cause numerous oil geysers. |
I don't believe they would do that. I do believe they'll try to sink aircraft carriers and attack civilians sites in the UK, Canada, Australia, EU and United States. |
I doubt that "they" would do that, but the terrorist organizations they have ties with might. |
Yes. No difference. No sense in pretending otherwise. 800k Iranians in LA alone. Lots of cover.
Invade the world/import the world. Just outstanding public policy. |
Big difference, mostly in how the US would respond. The likelihood of the US being willing to get involved in a war in Iran if it is indirectly attacked is far lower than if Iran directly attacks us. Iran has smart leaders, they know this. |
Iran is much stronger than you think. They don't benefit from being bombed from the air. They benefit form whopping American and Israeli ass on the ground in Iran. The "regime", as you call it, would benefit from an invasion up until the point nukes are used. Their incentive is to escalate. |
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Leon
Joined: 31 May 2010
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| Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 12:26 pm Post subject: |
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Iran is much stronger than you think. They don't benefit from being bombed from the air. They benefit form whopping American and Israeli ass on the ground in Iran. The "regime", as you call it, would benefit from an invasion up until the point nukes are used. Their incentive is to escalate. |
They benefit most from things staying the way that they are. Their incentive is to stay the course, and at most offer small provocations. I consider them to be the most powerful country in the region other than Israel, and possibly Turkey and Egypt. They are smart enough to not want an open conflict with Israel, but if it did happen, then all hell would probably break loose. |
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bucheon bum
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| Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 12:29 pm Post subject: |
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| Leon wrote: |
| mises wrote: |
Iran is much stronger than you think. They don't benefit from being bombed from the air. They benefit form whopping American and Israeli ass on the ground in Iran. The "regime", as you call it, would benefit from an invasion up until the point nukes are used. Their incentive is to escalate. |
They benefit most from things staying the way that they are. Their incentive is to stay the course, and at most offer small provocations. I consider them to be the most powerful country in the region other than Israel, and possibly Turkey and Egypt. They are smart enough to not want an open conflict with Israel, but if it did happen, then all hell would probably break loose. |
Iran has definitely shown to be much more effective than Egypt in its foreign "policy". Egypt is just big, that's about it. |
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