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Why venting on Daves is useful.
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Underwaterbob



Joined: 08 Jan 2005
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 3:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK, let's vent. Long rambling posts with blatantly repeated misspellings on a message board supposedly populated with English teachers drive me batsh** insane.

It's tongue!

That is all.
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balzor



Joined: 14 Feb 2009

PostPosted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 3:39 pm    Post subject: Re: Why venting on Daves is useful. Reply with quote

Summer Wine wrote:



When forced to stand in class listening to your co-teacher tell your students to open the windows and then turn on the aircon, knowing that you cant criticise her lack of understanding on how aircon actually works.
Why can't you criticize her? Or better yet, have the air on when they walk in the room and keep the windows locked and make a class rule that when the air is on, the doors and windows stay closed. My kids know this and my co-teachers don't argue with it because it's a rule.
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Underwaterbob



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 3:46 pm    Post subject: Re: Why venting on Daves is useful. Reply with quote

balzor wrote:
Why can't you criticize her?


Exactly. Whining on a message board accomplishes little. If you have a problem with someone, talk to them. I'm amazed at how many people post on here asking advice on what to do about a noisy neighbor or perpetually late co-teacher when they clearly haven't even tried talking to the person yet. It's not rocket science. Most people are reasonable when confronted in a calm, rational manner.
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Louis VI



Joined: 05 Jul 2010
Location: In my Kingdom

PostPosted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 4:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Why venting on Daves is useful. Reply with quote

I have enjoyed reading VOD (venting on dave's). It does help cope at times. I never come here to hear rosy talk about Korea because I get that 24/7 away from this site.

Summer Wine wrote:
When forced to stand in class listening to your co-teacher tell your students to open the windows and then turn on the aircon, knowing that you cant criticise her lack of understanding on how aircon actually works.

I like to have the air conditioner on and windows open, in my classroom and in my car. Cool breezy air and fresh air. No air con headache, no stuffy air. A perfect combination of coolness and freshness. Of course, it's a waste of energy. That's the real drawback. But I don't pay the hagwon power bill and I'm willing to pay an extra buck or two in gas for my car to have it on while the window is cracked a third open.
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confucian



Joined: 13 May 2010

PostPosted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 5:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, I've just closed the windows. Convrsely, in the winter when the classroom is being cleaned at lunchtime I've closed the windows whilst saying loudly "What moron opens the windows in mid-January? Keep your windows at home open!"
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cj1976



Joined: 26 Oct 2005

PostPosted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 5:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

confucian wrote:
Yes, I've just closed the windows. Convrsely, in the winter when the classroom is being cleaned at lunchtime I've closed the windows whilst saying loudly "What moron opens the windows in mid-January? Keep your windows at home open!"


Yeah, you da man.
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confucian



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Keep following the lead, 76-freeze in the winter, stay hot and sweaty in the summer, and be aware that human nature is near universal-you will be quietly despised by your korean coworkers for just taking the nonsense.
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cj1976



Joined: 26 Oct 2005

PostPosted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 6:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've actually learned how to open and close windows quietly without insulting people in a condescending manner. So far, it's been quite effective in maintaining optimum room temperature.
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The Gipkik



Joined: 30 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe it should be "Why Whining on Dave's is Useful." The problem of impotent foreigners living in a culture that either pacifies them too much or gives them the shakes.
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Louis VI



Joined: 05 Jul 2010
Location: In my Kingdom

PostPosted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 6:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Gipkik wrote:
The problem of impotent foreigners living in a culture that either pacifies them too much or gives them the shakes.

Where are you coming from? There are three options:

a) self-loathing?
b) condescending holier-than-thou exception to the rule?
or
c) are you simply not one of us, a Korean? (or gyopo who thinks he's Korean)
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shinramyun



Joined: 31 Jul 2009

PostPosted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 7:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

clear difference between venting and "b***ing"
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The Gipkik



Joined: 30 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 7:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Louis VI wrote:
The Gipkik wrote:
The problem of impotent foreigners living in a culture that either pacifies them too much or gives them the shakes.

Where are you coming from? There are three options:

a) self-loathing?
b) condescending holier-than-thou exception to the rule?
or
c) are you simply not one of us, a Korean? (or gyopo who thinks he's Korean)


Very Happy None of the above really. Just my observations. I'm a realist.
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Kaypea



Joined: 09 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 10:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

confucian wrote:
Yes, I've just closed the windows. Convrsely, in the winter when the classroom is being cleaned at lunchtime I've closed the windows whilst saying loudly "What moron opens the windows in mid-January? Keep your windows at home open!"


I think it's because they're vaccuuming and it's dusty. I couldn't figure it out for the longest time either. If the kids don't open the windows while cleaning, the older teachers yell at them. Then I figured it must be because of vaccuum dust.

I'm not allowed to be alone in a room so I never get to be boss.
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NYC_Gal



Joined: 08 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 10:39 pm    Post subject: Re: Why venting on Daves is useful. Reply with quote

Underwaterbob wrote:
balzor wrote:
Why can't you criticize her?


Exactly. Whining on a message board accomplishes little. If you have a problem with someone, talk to them. I'm amazed at how many people post on here asking advice on what to do about a noisy neighbor or perpetually late co-teacher when they clearly haven't even tried talking to the person yet. It's not rocket science. Most people are reasonable when confronted in a calm, rational manner.


I explained the aircon/window situation to my coteacher, but she changed her tune from "dirty air" to "it makes my eyes hurt."

Rolling Eyes
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Kaypea



Joined: 09 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 11:20 pm    Post subject: Re: Why venting on Daves is useful. Reply with quote

Louis VI wrote:
I have enjoyed reading VOD (venting on dave's). It does help cope at times. I never come here to hear rosy talk about Korea because I get that 24/7 away from this site.

Summer Wine wrote:
When forced to stand in class listening to your co-teacher tell your students to open the windows and then turn on the aircon, knowing that you cant criticise her lack of understanding on how aircon actually works.

I like to have the air conditioner on and windows open, in my classroom and in my car. Cool breezy air and fresh air. No air con headache, no stuffy air. A perfect combination of coolness and freshness. Of course, it's a waste of energy. That's the real drawback. But I don't pay the hagwon power bill and I'm willing to pay an extra buck or two in gas for my car to have it on while the window is cracked a third open.


I actually agree with this... I think I'm sensitive. Air con makes me sneezy and shivery, and the air gets in my throat and ughhh.
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