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eumyang
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| Within 50 years when we have A third world war over the impending oil shortage, China is going to be laughing its butt off with the worlds largest oild supply that it isn't going to share. |
I don't know, maybe that will be the case, but a colleague of mine thinks that the next major wars will be fought over not oil, but water. I can see this, especially with the world population soaring (now at about 6.8 billion, according to Wikipedia). Clean water is something that people of many nations take for granted, but it's scarce in poorer countries.
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| And with nearly 2 billion people ( at least a fifth, if not a quarter of the global population) not much chance of stopping them at that point. |
The population at China is about 1.34 billion, not "nearly 2 billion" as you state. But it's getting there, for sure. Definitely not a quarter of the world population, but just under a fifth, at 19.59%. I also worry about India because they're 2nd in population (1.18 billion, or 17.31%).
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brickabrack
Joined: 17 May 2010
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| Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 3:59 am Post subject: |
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but a colleague of mine thinks that the next major wars will be fought over not oil, but water.
Your colleague is very well informed.
Ask yourself, who controls the water?
"OTOH in 2008 I wrote in his name on the presidential ballot."
Let's hear it for alt. parties! |
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Seoulio
Joined: 02 Jan 2010
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| Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 5:46 am Post subject: |
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| eumyang wrote: |
| Seoulio wrote: |
| Within 50 years when we have A third world war over the impending oil shortage, China is going to be laughing its butt off with the worlds largest oild supply that it isn't going to share. |
I don't know, maybe that will be the case, but a colleague of mine thinks that the next major wars will be fought over not oil, but water. I can see this, especially with the world population soaring (now at about 6.8 billion, according to Wikipedia). Clean water is something that people of many nations take for granted, but it's scarce in poorer countries.
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| And with nearly 2 billion people ( at least a fifth, if not a quarter of the global population) not much chance of stopping them at that point. |
The population at China is about 1.34 billion, not "nearly 2 billion" as you state. But it's getting there, for sure. Definitely not a quarter of the world population, but just under a fifth, at 19.59%. I also worry about India because they're 2nd in population (1.18 billion, or 17.31%).
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well considering I was projecting up to 50 years into the future, stands to reason there will be more of them by that point right? So my 2 billion number is about right ( if not more) |
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eumyang
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| Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 5:12 pm Post subject: |
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| Seoulio wrote: |
| well considering I was projecting up to 50 years into the future, stands to reason there will be more of them by that point right? So my 2 billion number is about right ( if not more) |
Ack, that's what happens when you can't read.  I can only hope that you're wrong about the projection, but I heard that the world population is projected to reach 9 billion in less than 50 years. 
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The Happy Warrior
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| Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 9:51 pm Post subject: |
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Then theres China, that floods our markets with wal-mart goods that we buy like fricking popcorn, and one of the major goods they take in return OIL! they use virtually none of the oil that they have in thier country. Within 50 years when we have A third world war over the impending oil shortage, China is going to be laughing its butt off with the worlds largest oild supply that it isn't going to share. And with nearly 2 billion people ( at least a fifth, if not a quarter of the global population) not much chance of stopping them at that point.
Bottom line is, witout a major policy shift, China becomes the dominant superpower by the end of the century.
course that's just my opinion, I could be wrong  |
Very wrong, to be sure. China is a huge importer of oil, and as their only land-based provider, Russia has them over a barrel. The rest of the stuff flows through the Straights of Malacca, vulnerable to US, Australian, Japanese, or Indian fleets. Pick a country, because any one of them could take the Chinese deepwater navy alone. |
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recessiontime
Joined: 21 Jun 2010
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| Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 10:28 pm Post subject: |
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the stimulus check is really a hidden tax on the American people.
Here's how this scam works. The government wants to collect taxes but since doing it would anger people they just print money and hand it out to everyone calling it a stimulus check. Then, because everyone has more income they pay more taxes to the government.
Brilliant. |
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brickabrack
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| Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 3:50 am Post subject: |
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What if we all stopped paying taxes? - Sharon Jones and the Dap Kings
bottom?
I don't gamble in the stock market, but does anyone really believe this is the bottom? |
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bucheon bum
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 5:59 am Post subject: |
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| Seoulio wrote: |
Then theres China, that floods our markets with wal-mart goods that we buy like fricking popcorn, and one of the major goods they take in return OIL! they use virtually none of the oil that they have in thier country. Within 50 years when we have A third world war over the impending oil shortage, China is going to be laughing its butt off with the worlds largest oild supply that it isn't going to share. And with nearly 2 billion people ( at least a fifth, if not a quarter of the global population) not much chance of stopping them at that point.
Bottom line is, witout a major policy shift, China becomes the dominant superpower by the end of the century.
course that's just my opinion, I could be wrong |
Very wrong, to be sure. China is a huge importer of oil, and as their only land-based provider, Russia has them over a barrel. The rest of the stuff flows through the Straights of Malacca, vulnerable to US, Australian, Japanese, or Indian fleets. Pick a country, because any one of them could take the Chinese deepwater navy alone. |
Yes, there is a reason why China doesn't support sanctions against Iran and why it heavily invests in Sudan. And no, that reason isn't some alligiance to fellow authoritarian governments. |
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bucheon bum
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 6:00 am Post subject: |
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| What if we all stopped paying taxes? - Sharon Jones and the Dap Kings? |
Great group. |
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Dev
Joined: 18 Apr 2006
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| Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 4:44 am Post subject: |
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Then theres China, that floods our markets with wal-mart goods that we buy like fricking popcorn, and one of the major goods they take in return OIL! they use virtually none of the oil that they have in thier country. Within 50 years when we have A third world war over the impending oil shortage, China is going to be laughing its butt off with the worlds largest oild supply that it isn't going to share. And with nearly 2 billion people ( at least a fifth, if not a quarter of the global population) not much chance of stopping them at that point.
Bottom line is, witout a major policy shift, China becomes the dominant superpower by the end of the century.
course that's just my opinion, I could be wrong |
Don't blame China when it's greedy U.S. companies that go knocking on their door for cheap labor.
A prime example is Ralph Lauren who had his line of Team U.S.A. Vancouver Olympic 2010 clothes made in China. Did he pass his savings to the customer? No. I saw a winter hat selling for $100. Surely at the prices he charges, he could have had his clothes made in the U.S.A. |
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AsiaESLbound
Joined: 07 Jan 2010
Location: Truck Stop Missouri
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| Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 5:35 am Post subject: |
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I agree Dev, America sold itself out by offshoring the jobs. And technical core competencies!!! Sell outs. You can't blame Asia for taking wealth and jobs from Americans. You'd take a jobs, wealth, and technology too if someone said, "Here you can have what is ours and we'll even buy your goods. Just allow us an unlimited line of credit to keep us afloat so we can continue supporting your economic miracle we allow you."
How to save the US economy? Fire all the politicians, CEO's, and big wigs and start over. |
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Seoulio
Joined: 02 Jan 2010
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| Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 6:02 am Post subject: |
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| Dev wrote: |
| Seoulio wrote: |
Then theres China, that floods our markets with wal-mart goods that we buy like fricking popcorn, and one of the major goods they take in return OIL! they use virtually none of the oil that they have in thier country. Within 50 years when we have A third world war over the impending oil shortage, China is going to be laughing its butt off with the worlds largest oild supply that it isn't going to share. And with nearly 2 billion people ( at least a fifth, if not a quarter of the global population) not much chance of stopping them at that point.
Bottom line is, witout a major policy shift, China becomes the dominant superpower by the end of the century.
course that's just my opinion, I could be wrong |
Don't blame China when it's greedy U.S. companies that go knocking on their door for cheap labor.
A prime example is Ralph Lauren who had his line of Team U.S.A. Vancouver Olympic 2010 clothes made in China. Did he pass his savings to the customer? No. I saw a winter hat selling for $100. Surely at the prices he charges, he could have had his clothes made in the U.S.A. |
Not sure what youre talking about, I don't see how that comment relates to what I said ( I may just be clueless and don't see it)
As you will see on other recent threads, i FULLY Blame America for the economic struggles they have and will have due to the corportae greed |
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recessiontime
Joined: 21 Jun 2010
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| Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 8:15 am Post subject: |
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i think the stimulus might actually pull us out of the recession but not because spending money will stimulate the economy. The stimulus is a tax on the American people. The last time we had a depression, a tax increase took us out of it. The government is trying to raise taxes to take us out of this deep recession by issuing a hidden tax - the stimulus package.
By printing money and putting it into circulation, people earn more and will have to pay more taxes. Therefore it is a hidden tax on the American people. |
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SCE2AUX
Joined: 15 Dec 2007
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Konglishman
Joined: 14 Sep 2007
Location: Nanjing
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| Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 12:27 am Post subject: |
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| eumyang wrote: |
| Seoulio wrote: |
| well considering I was projecting up to 50 years into the future, stands to reason there will be more of them by that point right? So my 2 billion number is about right ( if not more) |
Ack, that's what happens when you can't read. I can only hope that you're wrong about the projection, but I heard that the world population is projected to reach 9 billion in less than 50 years.
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While the total world population may reach 9 billion, China's population is unlikely to get beyond 1.5 billion people. Further, its population probably start to decline sometime in the near future due in part to its current one child policy.
Also, here is a source which backs up what I am saying.
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China's population unlikely to top 1.6 bln: expert
(Xinhua)
Updated: 2005-09-13 19:39
China's population is unlikely to top 1.6 billion people in the late 2020's when it is projected to peak, according to an expert quoted in a Beijing newspaper.
The Beijing Dai ly on Tuesday quoted Zhang Yi, a research fellow with the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences, as saying a joint effort from the government and the public since late last century has successfully controlled the growth rate and the size of the population.
The researcher also emphasizes that China will not impose any further pressure on the world's supplies of energy and staple foods.
Zhang Yi cites different trends in the growth pattern of the Chinese population.
He says that China will probably reach a total population of 1.45 billion in the future. As China becomes an aging society, a rising mortality rate will appear. Further, an increasing number of migrant workers living in urban areas would better control the size of their families under the government's family planning policy.
In the past decade, China has already seen population growth characterized by a low birth rate, and this pattern will continue in the coming decades. The control China has exercised over its population growth has postponed the projected date at which the world population will reach 6 billion people by four years.
He noted that Chinese women also would choose to have children at a later age in the future, as they seek to spend more years on education and career development. Delayed maternity also would help ease population pressure in the country. |
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/english/doc/2005-09/13/content_477520.htm |
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