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[Who's Your Daddy?]

So, I confess, I drive, I use Air Con, I fly a couple times a year. I don't think about the environment, because I feel no matter what I do, global warming is inevitable. I feel my actions are irrelevant.

On another thread, some people posted "driving is bad for the environment." I will concede this, but as an individual, is your action relevant to global warming?

[Junior]

obviously people are unwilling to police themselves.
I'd be happy if governments enforced laws against SUV's and limited people's flights to a certain amount per year.

[languistic]

I fart much.

[Dev]

Another question is, Do you replace your cell phone every year? Or your computer every 3 years?

Our parents used to use things until they broke or wore out. The new generation just wants the latest gadget. It's irrational behavior if you think about it. This need to have the latest piece of crap from Apple.

Instead of focusing on the negative, let's ask people in this thread Do you do anything positive to help the world? Like donate to any charities?

I personally donate money every month to

The United Nations Food Program

Ryan's Well Foundation, a charity that builds wells in Africa.

[Dev]

If people want to help the environment, they need to consume less.

This is actually also self-interest because so many people these days have massive credit card debt.

People need to reprogram themselves to ask questions like

Do I really need to buy that?

Can I do without?

Can I bike or walk there instead of using the car?

[hwa jang shil]

I doubt if I lived to be a 1000 years old I'd ever leave a carbon skidmark as big as one Chinese steel factory produces in a day. Therefore, I do recycle but I'll also leave my air-con on all night with no guilt.

[curiousaboutkorea]

[hwa jang shil]

I'm pretty sure my c*ck ring is made in Thailand

[Globutron]

I'm great for the environment.

I use air con in my new room, but only in 15 minute bursts, where I turn it off until I'm dying again, or briefly to cool the room before I sleep, and then turn it off again.

I don't and never will drive, I barely eat (more a case of forgetting), I don't wash as much as I should, I am epically frugal in everything I do - I will always complain if anything costs over �5, be it a meal or a house.

I always recycle, etc etc.

Anyway. Although I am very worldwide environmentally conscious, I basically don't do any of this as a result. It's just how I live. The recycling and public transport makes me feel good, Latest gadgets don't appeal to me because I feel it makes me like everyone else - That goes with washing too, actually.

Mostly it's due to me being sensationally lazy, though. If we want to save the world, sleep more.

[Senior]

As an individual, you are wasting your precious moments on Earth.... worrying about the Earth.

-Recycling is a scam.
-Running your AC in short bursts? It probably takes as much energy to start it up as to run it for an hour.
-Banning SUVs and flying? Give me a fucking break. Clash for clunkers wasted as much resources in a month than a million people will use in a life time. And you want more gov?

Environmentalism is a death cult. Their goal is to reduce the human population and lower living standards. If the enviros are right, won't this happen anyway? By destroying the "environment", humans will also destroy themselves. Life on Earth has been destroyed a couple of times before and bounced back pretty well. If we manage to destroy ourselves (which would be an amazing feat) won't you have your way?

Worrying about this stuff is absurd. Simply because the "environment"(what does that word even mean) is IMPROVING all across the developed world. The best way to improve the environment is to increase living standards, which actually entails consuming MORE resources! Counter intuitive I know. But please try to think about it and wrap your head around the concept, enviros. Rich people (every person on this board, relatively), demand clean places to live. Therefore, we need richer people. Simple.

Be sure to consume as much as you can. For the environment!

[curiousaboutkorea]

starting up a machine takes way less energy than you think. It's a bit of a myth that you can save energy by leaving a device running rather than starting it up every time you need to use it.

[southern boy]

This is what happened when a sheep is abandoned from civilisation.

[Globutron]

[Senior]

[pangaea]

I do think that humans overall are extremely damaging to the environment. We are thoughtless and wasteful and don't think about the consequences of our actions as much as we should. I do think we need to do more to preserve the natural environment and try to reverse some of the damage that has been done to it. The oil spill in the gulf makes me furious because it happened due to the greed and indifference of executives out to make money and it was entirely preventable. Workers died and now the environment and the local economy are taking a devastating hit.

Of course, I don't do as much as I should to help "save the earth." If I am in my apartment, my air conditioning is on. Until I moved here, I was driving a 10-year-old oil-leaking clunker. I've never had the money to buy a hybrid vehicle and I didn't recycle as much as I should, though I am trying to be better about that. But I think that it is a little arrogant to think that we will destroy the earth. The earth has been here for something like 4.5 billion years (unless you are a fundamentalist) and it will be here for a few billion more. I think it's entirely possible that we as a species could make the earth unliveable for us and a good number of our animal friends. Given enough time, if things don't change, I think we could just weed ourselves right out of the equation and life on earth would spring back and probably be better off. I was fascinated by "Life After People" on the History Channel. To the Earth, we are barely a blip on the radar.