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JLS - NO VACATION TIME FOR TEACHERS?
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gummychoco



Joined: 05 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 6:19 pm    Post subject: JLS - NO VACATION TIME FOR TEACHERS? Reply with quote

So my recruiter is trying to tell me that JLS normally doesn't give any vacation time to their teachers and that they had to fight for us to get us 5 vacation days (us=me&husband). Why the hell would anyone work for JLS then? Is he lying to me and trying to make me sign a poopy contract?
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smee18



Joined: 24 Mar 2009
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 7:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

don't sign it
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fugitive chicken



Joined: 20 Apr 2010
Location: Bucheon

PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A few schools do that, especially the smaller hogwans. I have friends who worked for a hogwan that gave them Christmas day off, but they had to work the next Saturday to make up the missed day of work. And a friend who was given Buddha's birthday off, but was told she had to work Sunday to make it up or recieve a cut in her pay. (not working for JLS, but other hogwans that don't offer vacation days)

I agree, don't sign it. It's a sign that the hogwan will probably work you to the ground and get as much out of you as they can with giving up as little money as possible.
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Ramen



Joined: 15 Apr 2008

PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 7:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sign it!

i'm sure they will compensate no vacation with more money. Razz
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salgichawa



Joined: 18 Mar 2010

PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 8:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ramen wrote:
sign it!

i'm sure they will compensate no vacation with more money. Razz



Sick

Maybe maybe not.

Don't sign unless you feel like working when every other person has it off. No reason for them to give extra pay unless you have signed for it.
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carleverson



Joined: 04 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 2:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

They are slave drivers plain and simple. They can get away with not offering vacation time because enough teachers sign up with them without requesting vacation.

JLS is a POS hogwon.
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 2:49 am    Post subject: Re: JLS - NO VACATION TIME FOR TEACHERS? Reply with quote

gummychoco wrote:
So my recruiter is trying to tell me that JLS normally doesn't give any vacation time to their teachers and that they had to fight for us to get us 5 vacation days (us=me&husband). Why the hell would anyone work for JLS then? Is he lying to me and trying to make me sign a poopy contract?


10 working days of paid vacation (+ national holidays) are pretty much standard at most hakwons.

18 - 28 working days (+ national holidays) is the standard for most public school jobs.

Korean labor law (article 60) mandates 15 calendar days of paid annual vacation each year for all employees who have worked a full year and 1 calendar day (per month worked) for employees who have worked less than 1 year.

OP: Someone is feeding you a line of *beep*.
If they screw with your annual leave then you can almost be 100% assured that they will screw with your medical (won't get it), pension (won't get it) and taxes (overpay by double (3.3%) or more (4.5%) ) too.

Look for another job.

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WadRUG'naDoo



Joined: 15 Jun 2010
Location: Shanghai

PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 3:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Making up classes for free because of a national holiday. Ha. Even working on a national holiday... Do students even show up? What's the point?

Are there any labor regulations for working holidays that state you be paid double time or anything? If not, that's pretty pathetic.
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gummychoco



Joined: 05 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 3:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the responses. I mean, really, it's a crap deal, especially considering that the contract states that there is mandatory Saturday work every other week AND we'll be expected to work extra teaching hours during school vacation times.

I knew, deep down inside, it sounded all wrong, but the recruiter kept threatening us, saying that it was impossible to find couple positions anymore and that we should be grateful we got an offer at all...
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Konglishman



Joined: 14 Sep 2007
Location: Nanjing

PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 3:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you a gyopo? I heard that the Korean English teachers at that institution get no vacation time, but get paid much much more than the Native English speakers. But the amount of money depends on the number of students in the classes.
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Mirabilis85



Joined: 09 Oct 2008
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 9:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thats total BS. Ive worked there for over a year as native speaker instructor we def get 10 days + national holidays. Love JLS. It sounds like youre being hired as a korean teacher.
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gummychoco



Joined: 05 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 10:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mirabilis85 wrote:
Thats total BS. Ive worked there for over a year as native speaker instructor we def get 10 days + national holidays. Love JLS. It sounds like youre being hired as a korean teacher.


I am a gyopo, but my husband is not. We were offered the exact same contract though... I guess they were going to give me 5 of his 10 allotted "native speaker" vacation days. :/
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Ukon



Joined: 29 Jan 2008

PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 3:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gummychoco wrote:
Thanks for the responses. I mean, really, it's a crap deal, especially considering that the contract states that there is mandatory Saturday work every other week AND we'll be expected to work extra teaching hours during school vacation times.

I knew, deep down inside, it sounded all wrong, but the recruiter kept threatening us, saying that it was impossible to find couple positions anymore and that we should be grateful we got an offer at all...


He's lying, plenty of couple positions...some schools prefer it.

I see them all the time...if you can get a F-2 visa, I'd say get separate jobs because you have more freedom for higher paying part time gigs than being a couple position locked to some regular ol' hagwon contract.
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lorenchristopher



Joined: 25 Dec 2007

PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 11:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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quilter



Joined: 11 Feb 2006

PostPosted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 12:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I second what lorenchristopher said. You are either describing holidays of the Korean English teachers, or you are dealing with a franchise school, and these contracts are completely different from the centrally run schools. As JLS hires their teachers directly, and doesn't use recruiters for their foreign teachers, I think you are probably negotiating with a franchise.
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