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Mikejelai
Joined: 01 Nov 2009
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 Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 7:14 pm Post subject: purpose of leaving Korea when changing employers??? |
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When you change employers (and thus your work visa expires) you must leave Korea to get it changed to reflect the new employer (typically go to Fukuoka, as many of you know). But what useful purpose does this flying out of and then back into Korea really serve other than making money for the airlines and hotels? After all, you risk your life everytime you fly; you waste 2-3 days; you add to global warming/pollution; you have to pay for the ticket and hotel room, etc.
Why don't they just have a box or special room or something you sit inside of at immigration for a few minutes and then when they reissue the visa they allow you to step out of the box/room and give you the new visa? I mean, the whole leaving the country thing is just a charade isn't it? It doesn't really change anything, afterall. Why do the authorities here require this ludicrous exercise?? |
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Skippy
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Location: Daejeon
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| Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 8:59 pm Post subject: |
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I agree i find it silly too. but....
DO NOT EXPECT LOGIC HERE IN KOREA. Especially with bureaucracies and governments. You think this limited to Korea too. For example, If I go to Australia on a tourist visa/visa waiver. I decide to get a De-facto Visa with my girlfriend. I have to leave the country and submit the paper work. Why can't I do it in Country/Oz. Same with many other countries of you have to apply from out of country.
Check out this article about the immigrartion hell called the US. Look at step 4
http://www.cracked.com/article_18552_so-you-want-to-be-american-5-circles-immigration-hell_p2.html |
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Njord
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| Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 11:55 pm Post subject: |
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| I have no idea why people do this. It is much easier to simply transfer your visa to your new employer and extend. This can all be done in one visit to the immigration office and only requires one additional document (from your old employer) giving you permission to change your workplace. |
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laguna
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| Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 12:53 am Post subject: |
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| I have no idea why people do this. It is much easier to simply transfer your visa to your new employer and extend. This can all be done in one visit to the immigration office and only requires one additional document (from your old employer) giving you permission to change your workplace. |
Because employers get busted for not paying taxes on you if you switch schools while still in the country. |
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wesharris
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| Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 12:57 am Post subject: |
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You can switch schools and remain in country.
Just have to transfer your visa. 50k won. A few documents, it's VERY easy. |
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air76
Joined: 13 Nov 2007
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| Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 12:58 am Post subject: |
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| laguna wrote: |
| Njord wrote: |
| I have no idea why people do this. It is much easier to simply transfer your visa to your new employer and extend. This can all be done in one visit to the immigration office and only requires one additional document (from your old employer) giving you permission to change your workplace. |
Because employers get busted for not paying taxes on you if you switch schools while still in the country. |
I switched employers without leaving the country....and I seriously doubt my first employer was paying the proper taxes.
Generally I find that the people who have to leave are those whose new jobs start more than a few days after their old job ends....but it one starts right after the other ends then I think it's a pretty easy process. |
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seonsengnimble
Joined: 02 Jun 2009
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| Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 1:58 am Post subject: |
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| wesharris wrote: |
You can switch schools and remain in country.
Just have to transfer your visa. 50k won. A few documents, it's VERY easy. |
It's not quite that simple. If you finish your contract or at least most of the contract, sure. If you want to quit before 9 months, though, it's quite difficult. |
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Mikejelai
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| Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 8:45 pm Post subject: |
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| My current contract ends the last day of August, and the new contract won't begin till the first day of September............. |
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broken76
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| Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 8:53 pm Post subject: |
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| As long as you've completed at least half of your contract and your old school is willing a Visa transfer in Korea is possible. It's definitely easier and faster to do. The main thing that you'll need to get is a letter of release from your current employer. |
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salgichawa
Joined: 18 Mar 2010
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| Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 11:32 pm Post subject: Re: purpose of leaving Korea when changing employers??? |
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| Mikejelai wrote: |
When you change employers (and thus your work visa expires) you must leave Korea to get it changed to reflect the new employer (typically go to Fukuoka, as many of you know). But what useful purpose does this flying out of and then back into Korea really serve other than making money for the airlines and hotels? After all, you risk your life everytime you fly; you waste 2-3 days; you add to global warming/pollution; you have to pay for the ticket and hotel room, etc.
Why don't they just have a box or special room or something you sit inside of at immigration for a few minutes and then when they reissue the visa they allow you to step out of the box/room and give you the new visa? I mean, the whole leaving the country thing is just a charade isn't it? It doesn't really change anything, afterall. Why do the authorities here require this ludicrous exercise?? |
Hi There,
It's very simple..any other system allows foreign workers to hang out illegally too easily. Many other countries say so too. A simple box would not contain them all. If it was a simple changeover it would make it harder to detain people on that basis and then they would not take any visa law seriously.
I too hope one day soon they find an answer to this global waste. But firstly I hope Korea's work visa system for E2's lightens up. |
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hagwonnewbie
Joined: 09 Feb 2007
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As far as I know, there aren't any examples in recent history of legislators responding to media fuled foreign hysteria by imposing stricter immigration rules, and then back tracking.
The new laws are here to stay. |
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OculisOrbis
Joined: 17 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 1:20 am Post subject: |
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| hagwonnewbie wrote: |
As far as I know, there aren't any examples in recent history of legislators responding to media fuled foreign hysteria by imposing stricter immigration rules, and then back tracking.
The new laws are here to stay. |
Marijuana testing was added, removed, and now is proposed to be re-implemented. |
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tgrear2008
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| Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 9:04 pm Post subject: |
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| How about if you re-sign for another year with your Hagwon school? Do you have to deal with E-2 documents again? |
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