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Pension...have you got it at every job?
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How many hakwon jobs paid you your proper pension
All
28%
 28%  [ 8 ]
Most (please explain below)
10%
 10%  [ 3 ]
Some (please explain below)
25%
 25%  [ 7 ]
None
35%
 35%  [ 10 ]
Total Votes : 28

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TheUrbanMyth



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired

PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 6:46 pm    Post subject: Pension...have you got it at every job? Reply with quote

This is a question about pension. Have you had it at every hakwon job you have had?


Only one out of four ever paid pension and that only was after I forced them to by threatening to call the pension office....a reason why I moved to public school. Steel cage matches with hakwon directors were getting old. So I voted "Some"
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 7:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I voted none.

I have never worked in a hakwon that paid into NHIC or NPS (and I worked in a few before I switched to the PS system.

I have NEVER personally known anyone working in a hakwon who was enrolled in the NPS.

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OculisOrbis



Joined: 17 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Two hagwon jobs, the first under-reported my income (1.3 mil instead of 2.4 mil) so I ended up paying for everything, my employer got to pocket the little bit extra and did not contribute anything that they were supposed to - approx net loss for me = 1.3 mil. I was unable to do anything about it as they went bankrupt before I became aware of their theft.

Second job was only a temporary 3 month job until PS semester started in September. Agreed on a fair wage, but didnt talk about health and pension. Apparently he wasnt expecting to contribute to either until I asked for my health insurance card - received it about 10 days later and when the job was finished I found out he reported my income as 1 mil instead of 2.5. I didnt care about that as it was a very short term job and he was great in every other respect.

Three PS jobs, all tried the 30% salary reduction scam (which means they consider pension to be calculated on 70% your salary instead of your true salary. The 30% reduction was to be applied only on your income at tax settlement time) until I set them straight. No issues with any salary or benefits following the first correction at each school. This scam is obsolete now since Jan 1, 2010 because the 30% reduction for foreigner income for income tax has been discontinued so you shouldnt have to worry about it anymore.

Advice: Insist on itemized pay statements. Always call the pertinent offices and verify everything for yourself early on in a job and every few months after that if you work in a hagwon. Don't trust that they said they did it, did it correctly, or even that they are continuing making the contributions.


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sojusucks



Joined: 31 May 2008

PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 2:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ttompatz wrote:
I voted none.

I have never worked in a hakwon that paid into NHIC or NPS (and I worked in a few before I switched to the PS system.

I have NEVER personally known anyone working in a hakwon who was enrolled in the NPS.

.


I and others I know have had the same experience.
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SeoulNate



Joined: 04 Jun 2010
Location: Hyehwa

PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 3:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Working for a Hogwon right now and I am getting pension along with my 5 coworkers. And before anyone asks, yes, I checked with the office.
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WadRUG'naDoo



Joined: 15 Jun 2010
Location: Shanghai

PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 3:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get a good enough salary and pension doesn't matter. At one time, I was adamant on getting it and then realised that I didn't care
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TheUrbanMyth



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired

PostPosted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 11:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So far 4 out of 14 got their promised pension benefits...anybody else wish to weight in?
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cmr



Joined: 22 Mar 2006

PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 3:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I answered "most" because I did get it (the pension refund) after my first hagwon job before going back home. The other hagwons that followed didn't pay pension, but I knew it and had a better salary accordingly, so there was no problem or surprise there.
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tophatcat



Joined: 09 Aug 2006
Location: under the hat

PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 3:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

didn't get it at my first school, I've gotten it since. I wouldn't accept a job or continue to work at a school that doesn't participate in pension
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Nester Noodlemon



Joined: 16 Jan 2009

PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 5:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

: 2/4
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ontheway



Joined: 24 Aug 2005
Location: Somewhere under the rainbow...

PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 8:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tophatcat wrote: