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Korean Language Class at SNU vs Yonsei
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lukas



Joined: 22 Aug 2009
Location: Bucheon

PostPosted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 6:17 pm    Post subject: Korean Language Class at SNU vs Yonsei Reply with quote

Has anyone taken either of these two classes and can give me a recommendation/opinion of it?

I'm mainly looking for opinions of which class has better content. I'm not a beginner either if that has bearing on your response. I've been studying korean for about 6 months and I am most likely at a pre-intermediate level.

They're both major universities, so I would guess that the courses are similar.
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APETRO



Joined: 24 Aug 2009

PostPosted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 8:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't speak for SNU but I will tell you that Yonsei's KLI program is very focused on grammar and writing. I did KLI Level 1 during my exchange sem. in 2008, but if I had to do it all over again i'd go to Sogang. Everyone i've met that has done the Sogang program seems to think highly of it, pretty much functional Korean/conversation.
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Murakano



Joined: 10 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 8:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

as the above poster said, go to SOGANG University.
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toby99



Joined: 28 Aug 2009
Location: Dong-Incheon-by-the-sea, South Korea

PostPosted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 9:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep. Sogang is the best game in town for speaking. I've never even heard SNU being in the discussion.
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lukas



Joined: 22 Aug 2009
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 9:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like Sogang is the way to go. Anyone here take a class there and can tell me what it's like? Will we just practice dialogs all day or what?
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T-J



Joined: 10 Oct 2008
Location: Seoul EunpyungGu Yeonsinnae

PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 4:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it depends on what you are looking to get out of the courses you take.

If you are looking to get a quick infusion of conversation practice, then Sogang.

If you are looking more long term and really want to drill down the basics then Yonsei.

The truth is Yonsei is much more grammar intensive and the real pay off from what you learn there will not be realized for months after the course, but what you do learn will be a more solid and lasting foundation to build on for the long term.

My two cents.
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lukas



Joined: 22 Aug 2009
Location: Bucheon

PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 5:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

T-J wrote:
I think it depends on what you are looking to get out of the courses you take.

If you are looking to get a quick infusion of conversation practice, then Sogang.

If you are looking more long term and really want to drill down the basics then Yonsei.

The truth is Yonsei is much more grammar intensive and the real pay off from what you learn there will not be realized for months after the course, but what you do learn will be a more solid and lasting foundation to build on for the long term.

My two cents.


Thanks T-J, just when I thought I made up my mind, you've brought me back to indecision Laughing

Im curious, Have you taken the class at Yonsei?
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misher



Joined: 14 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 6:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did 3 levels at Sogang and it was great. I wouldn't continue there though. I need grammar, vocab, reading and writing now. I can practice Korean with Koreans outside of class. I don't need to sit and memorize dialogues. Like the above posters said, if you are looking to gain some fluency then sogang. If you are going to be here for a llong time and wish to pursue academic studies in the Korean language then Yonsei. In the end what you will get out of the program is what you put into it. I knew some western guys in level 5 at sogang and their speaking wasn't that great. They could memorize dialogues, listening scripts etc to pass the exams but their spoken language is not that much better than mine. And mine is pathetic. Classes here don't guarantee squat.
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T-J



Joined: 10 Oct 2008
Location: Seoul EunpyungGu Yeonsinnae

PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 6:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I went through the Yonsei program but that was 93~95.
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hostness



Joined: 18 Apr 2006

PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 8:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

T-J wrote:
I think it depends on what you are looking to get out of the courses you take.

If you are looking to get a quick infusion of conversation practice, then Sogang.

If you are looking more long term and really want to drill down the basics then Yonsei.

The truth is Yonsei is much more grammar intensive and the real pay off from what you learn there will not be realized for months after the course, but what you do learn will be a more solid and lasting foundation to build on for the long term.

My two cents.



Don't know how it is at sogang but ^^ poster is the conclusion I reached as well. Yonsei is going to 'suck' because they're going to make you work and learning a language is pretty frustrating. But it pays off when you get to the late intermediate and advanced stages. Guess it depends how serious and how long you are about learning the language.
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rchristo10



Joined: 14 Jul 2009

PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 8:35 pm    Post subject: Yonsei Never! Reply with quote

I went to Yonsei for one semester and found it absolutely horrible. I've received a masters in Korea and speak Korean fairly fluently, but wanted to get some real training to better myself.

I was put in level 4 and found the book utterly useless and poorly made. The class was taught primarily as a lecture and there was very little in the way of actual language *training*. The language level of most of the students in my class would also be considered semi-fluent by most standards considering that some of the students had been living in Korea for more than 20 years and have already received M.A.s in Korean-taught programs.

Their level assessment is horrible and a total money scam.
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madoka



Joined: 27 Mar 2008

PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

T-J wrote:
I went through the Yonsei program but that was 93~95.


Holy crap! I went from 91-92 (summers) to the Yonsei program! We must have just missed each other.

In the end, I think everyone's experiences will vary greatly depending on the instructor and your classmates. I had a Ms. Kim as my instructor. She was an attractive single woman in her early 20s who spoke decent English. The class was also fairly young and filled with cool waegooks from all over the world. Consequently, we spent a lot of time talking about dating practices in Korea and our instructor's love life which turned out to be quite fun and entertaining.
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Slowmotion



Joined: 15 Aug 2009

PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 1:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I went to SNU. It's a well balanced program. Downside is a lot of the students go there in hopes of getting into grad school at SNU, so they are quite boring. The fun students are at Yonsei, just heard the program sucks.

Everyone on this board seems to big up Sogang, but ironically most of those people can't speak worth a damn. Just saying it it was so great, i'd expect them to be pretty good at Korean.
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T-J



Joined: 10 Oct 2008
Location: Seoul EunpyungGu Yeonsinnae

PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 3:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

madoka wrote:
T-J wrote:
I went through the Yonsei program but that was 93~95.


Holy crap! I went from 91-92 (summers) to the Yonsei program! We must have just missed each other.

In the end, I think everyone's experiences will vary greatly depending on the instructor and your classmates. I had a Ms. Kim as my instructor. She was an attractive single woman in her early 20s who spoke decent English. The class was also fairly young and filled with cool waegooks from all over the world. Consequently, we spent a lot of time talking about dating practices in Korea and our instructor's love life which turned out to be quite fun and entertaining.


It really was a two-fer. Learned a lot about Korea and Korean of course. Also met a lot of very cool people from Mongolia, Japan, Russia, New Zealand, Germany, China, Philippines, Uzbekistan, and others that aren't coming to mind. I invited them all to our wedding in '95, I love looking back at our "United Nations" wedding pictures.
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NaD00D00



Joined: 10 Oct 2008
Location: Gimpo

PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 4:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I went to Yonsei, then SNU, and will be returning to Yonsei.

The content/level is pretty much the same. But Yonsei's program is much better structured than SNU's. Classes at SNU are so disorganized. That, and the teacher does all the talking.

The testing is much worse at SNU, too. It's way too easy; I think it's impossible to fail the speaking test.
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