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recessiontime



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 7:13 pm    Post subject: Is this article for real? Reply with quote

http://articles.latimes.com/2008/dec/19/opinion/oe-stein19

read, then discuss.
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Fox



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, Jews do well in the entertainment industry. Jews do well in a lot of industries. Of course a people statistically prone to intelligence is going to be over-represented in fields where intelligence plays a role. So what?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 7:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is anyone surprised by this? Many of the best directors are Jewish as well.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So first of all does it make me sound crazy/racist if I say that Jews pretty much control the media in North America or just the movies?

Secondly, to answer your question, I would think that any one ethnic group having so much power at their disposal is something to pause and think about soberly. Just to give you a small example, they could use media to demonize other ethnic groups that they don't like and sway public opinion at their collective whim. I'm assuming of course that all these CEO's care more about Israel than America.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

recessiontime wrote:
So first of all does it make me sound crazy/racist if I say that Jews pretty much control the media in North America or just the movies?

Secondly, to answer your question, I would think that any one ethnic group having so much power at their disposal is something to pause and think about soberly. Just to give you a small example, they could use media to demonize other ethnic groups that they don't like and sway public opinion at their collective whim. I'm assuming of course that all these CEO's care more about Israel than America.


I would say that they probably care much more about profit than America or Israel.
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Fox



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 8:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

recessiontime wrote:
So first of all does it make me sound crazy/racist if I say that Jews pretty much control the media in North America or just the movies?


You can say and think whatever you want, I don't care.

recessiontime wrote:
Secondly, to answer your question, I would think that any one ethnic group having so much power at their disposal is something to pause and think about soberly.


So do you often pause and think soberly about the fact that caucasian Christians also hold an immense amount of social, economic, and political power at their disposal? I doubt it, because you aren't inclined to think of such people as a group, but rather as individuals.

recessiontime wrote:
Just to give you a small example, they could use media to demonize other ethnic groups that they don't like and sway public opinion at their collective whim.


Yes, they could try to do that, if they were all part of a giant conspiracy due solely to their ethnicity. Are you saying they are?

recessiontime wrote:
I'm assuming of course that all these CEO's care more about Israel than America.


And you don't feel there's anything racist about that assumption?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 8:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fox wrote:
Yeah, Jews do well in the entertainment industry. Jews do well in a lot of industries. Of course a people statistically prone to intelligence is going to be over-represented in fields where intelligence plays a role. So what?


Please. Ethnic nepotism. I make a point to notice the name of casting directors whenever I consume a product of Hollywood.

Jew's are 2% of the population. Non Jews are 98% of the population. Whites are 80% (numbers from wiki). Adjusting for population AND IQ Jews are wildly over represented in media, Hollywood and other important industry. Asians are 4.4% of the US population are are nowhere to be found in media etc and they're smart as hell.


Whites
80% (including Hispanics and non)
White IQ is 100 with std dev of 15 (from IQ and the Wealth of Nations)
.8*300,000.000 = 240,000,000

Jews
5,128,000 (from wiki)
IQ according to Slate.com is 109-115. For fun, we'll be nice and take the 115 with a stdev of 15 (though the Jewish stdev is apparently 10).

Assume Gaussian distribution. 0-1stdev = 34.1% of pop, 1-2 stdev = 13.6%, 2-3 = 2.1%

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8c/Standard_deviation_diagram.svg

For whites, the number estimated to be above 2 stdev (iq in excess of 130) is:

.022*240,000,000 = 5 280 000

For Jews, the number estimated to be above 130 (>1 stdev) is:
(5 128 000 * .136) + (5 128 000 * .022) = 810 224

5 280 000 - 810 224 = 4 469 776

There are 4,469,776 more whites than Jews with an IQ over 130.

There are almost as many whites with an IQ over 130 as there are Jews in America.

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And frankly, the product that comes out of Hollywood is rubbish. I don't see any sign of a hyper-intelligent elite doing work that stupid goy can't.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 8:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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And you don't feel there's anything racist about that assumption?


Jews are not a race.

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So do you often pause and think soberly about the fact that caucasian Christians also hold an immense amount of social, economic, and political power at their disposal?


Where? Finance? No. Foreign policy? No. Media? No. Academia? No. Where?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 8:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mises wrote:
Fox wrote:
Yeah, Jews do well in the entertainment industry. Jews do well in a lot of industries. Of course a people statistically prone to intelligence is going to be over-represented in fields where intelligence plays a role. So what?


Please. Ethnic nepotism.


Ethnic nepotism requires your ethnicity to all ready be at the top before you can benefit from it. It can't explain the inital rise to the top; at best, it can be a factor in that situation continuing.

mises wrote:
Jew's are 2% of the population. Non Jews are 98% of the population. Whites are 80% (numbers from wiki). Adjusting for population AND IQ Jews are wildly over represented in media, Hollywood and other important industry.


Can you adjust for population, IQ, and culture? Especially in the entertainment industry, culture is an important factor (and helps explain why Asians aren't anywhere near as well represented). I have no idea how you'd even begin to quantify this factor, but without taking it into account I don't see how one could reasonably expect to quantitatively analyze this situation.

mises wrote:
And frankly, the product that comes out of Hollywood is rubbish. I don't see any sign of a hyper-intelligent elite doing work that stupid goy can't.


I don't particularly enjoy the overwhelming majority of what comes out of the entertainment industry either, mises, but evidently many Americans are quite taken by it. Who these people are that are willing to spend as much as they do on movies, music, cable packages, and so forth, I don't know. If what they want is slop, though, the most profitable thing to do is give them slop.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 8:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mises wrote:
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And you don't feel there's anything racist about that assumption?


Jews are not a race.


That is debatable. There is definitely a Jewish ethnicity. How else you would you explain the phenomenon of secular Jews? If you are born into a Jewish family you are considered Jewish regardless of religious belief, not the same for the other religions.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mises wrote:
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And you don't feel there's anything racist about that assumption?


Jews are not a race.


I'm not going to quibble over that semantic point.

mises wrote:
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So do you often pause and think soberly about the fact that caucasian Christians also hold an immense amount of social, economic, and political power at their disposal?


Where? Finance? No. Foreign policy? No. Media? No. Academia? No. Where?


Elected governmental officials are overwhelmingly caucasian Christians. I don't see how you can dismiss that as trivial.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mises wrote:

Please. Ethnic nepotism. I make a point to notice the name of casting directors whenever I consume a product of Hollywood.

Jew's are 2% of the population. Non Jews are 98% of the population. Whites are 80% (numbers from wiki). Adjusting for population AND IQ Jews are wildly over represented in media, Hollywood and other important industry. Asians are 4.4% of the US population are are nowhere to be found in media etc and they're smart as hell.


Networking.

How can Asians collectively benefit from networking? They're not a close knit-group. Japanese and Chinese and Koreans networking with each other? Hell, a Shanghainese and a Beijinger don't have that much of a natural connection.

Universities are great centers of networking. Harvard and Yale have a stranglehold on the elite. How many of these Jews went to elite universities? I would bet all of them.

Lastly, kvitzing, schmoozing, kvetzing. The language of networking is Yiddish/Hebrew (I don't know if these are Yiddish or Hebrew words, I think the latter).
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 9:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Ethnic nepotism requires your ethnicity to all ready be at the top before you can benefit from it. It can't explain the inital rise to the top; at best, it can be a factor in that situation continuing.


Now I'm going to have to reread Culture of Critique again to find all of the primacy sources regarding, and quotes from Jews about, Jews deliberately working their way up in Hollywood with the intention of dominating (by using positions of power to only hire from the tribe, and screaming to high hell if called on it) it to shape the culture in a way that they believed would benefit the tribe.

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Elected governmental officials are overwhelmingly caucasian Christians. I don't see how you can dismiss that as trivial.


More than 50% of all political contributions in the US are from Jewish individuals or organizations. Jewish organizations like the ADL, AIPAC and others (SLPC) keep the congress and senate in line with money and the threat of public shaming. The hoards of money extracted from the economy by bankers funds a massive Jewish lobby that keeps the whole system liquid. The media, which shapes (creates, entirely) the opinions of the electorate is completely Jewish run and owned.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 9:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

EDIT - wrong thread.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 9:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

recessiontime wrote:
So first of all does it make me sound crazy/racist if I say that Jews pretty much control the media in North America or just the movies?

Secondly, to answer your question, I would think that any one ethnic group having so much power at their disposal is something to pause and think about soberly. Just to give you a small example, they could use media to demonize other ethnic groups that they don't like and sway public opinion at their collective whim. I'm assuming of course that all these CEO's care more about Israel than America.


Not necessarily crazy or racist, but Hitler made a virtually identical point in Mein Kampf about Vienna:

Adolf Hitler wrote:
I gradually discovered that the Social Democratic Press was predominantly controlled by Jews.

From the publisher downwards, all of them were Jews. I recalled to mind the names of the public leaders of Marxism, and then I realized that most of them belonged to the Chosen Race--the Social Democratic representatives in the Imperial Cabinet as well as the secretaries of the Trades Unions and the street agitators. Everywhere the same sinister picture presented itself. I shall never forget the row of names--Austerlitz, David, Adler, Ellenbogen, and others. One fact became quite evident to me. It was that this alien race held in its hands the leadership of that Social


I've been re-reading MK recently, and it's remarkable how similar today's anti-semites sound to the German dictator
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