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Senior
Joined: 31 Jan 2010
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| buildbyflying wrote: |
Earlier someone asked how Apple and ATT could be held to monopoly laws.
Considering how T-Mobile is likely going under because the extra muscle ATT got from Apple only leaves room for three carriers in the entire US, I would argue that monopoly rules should apply. |
How do you apply "monopoly rules"? |
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crescent
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
Location: yes.
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| Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 9:42 pm Post subject: |
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| languistic wrote: |
| crescent wrote: |
| ulsanchris wrote: |
This is what really gets me. Imagine if Apple and other vendors had this policy for their computers. This is a complete joke and wonder why anyone would think this is a good idea. |
If such a policy was extended to PC software, you'd be talking about Microsoft. |
You are certainly the most predictable poster here. So easy to draw you out; a moth to the flame.
Now, enough of your deflections and strawmen already. MS had their day and are complying with the law and now its Apples turn.
As painfully difficult as I know this must be for you...try to keep it in your pants. |
LOL! Predictable in a consumer choice, so what? I'm not even defending Apple in this. You're the one with an Apple hate-on, flinging insults, so keep it in your own pants.
Microsoft is still in court for it's marketing practices to this day. But, you'd rather post about Apple. Ain't no strawman.
Do you see me posting every time MS has a problem? |
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kprrok
Joined: 06 Apr 2004
Location: KC
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| Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 12:42 am Post subject: |
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The reason this is a monopoly has nothing to do with vertical integration or whatever Apple does. It has to do with the fact that when you buy the iPhone, you sign a 2-year contract with AT&T. When that contract is up, you are supposed to be allowed to change your phone to unlocked and use on any carrier you wish.
This is not possible because the iPhone (as far as I know and I could be wrong) has an un-removable back so the SIM card CANNOT be changed to another carrier.
Thus, if you wish to continue using your iPhone, you MUST continue using AT&T and that's what this is monopolistic. |
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NYC_Gal
Joined: 08 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 3:53 am Post subject: |
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| I would have gotten an iphone back home, but AT&T stinks in NYC. Verizon is the best carrier, imho, and I'd only get an iphone back home if it were on that carrier. |
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spanky1off
Joined: 21 Aug 2006
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| Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 6:42 am Post subject: |
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is anything really shocking here? tech corps food corps whatever too big and powerful to control corps are out there always merely find new ways to part a fool with his cash
the consumer has the ultimate power....buy something else if u thinkt he company doesnt respect its consumers/workers etc. |
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buildbyflying
Joined: 01 Sep 2004
Location: To your right. No, your other right.
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| Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 7:59 pm Post subject: |
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| Senior wrote: |
How do you apply "monopoly rules"? |
Every time you pass go you sneak an extra 200 into your hand. When nobody's looking you put a random hotel up. |
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noky
Joined: 14 Jul 2010
Location: Yeongcheon
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| Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 7:01 am Post subject: |
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| kprrok wrote: |
The reason this is a monopoly has nothing to do with vertical integration or whatever Apple does. It has to do with the fact that when you buy the iPhone, you sign a 2-year contract with AT&T. When that contract is up, you are supposed to be allowed to change your phone to unlocked and use on any carrier you wish.
This is not possible because the iPhone (as far as I know and I could be wrong) has an un-removable back so the SIM card CANNOT be changed to another carrier.
Thus, if you wish to continue using your iPhone, you MUST continue using AT&T and that's what this is monopolistic. |
There is no US regulation stating carriers have to unlock your phone. Many do so as a courtesy to the consumer. Therefore if you buy the iPhone and want to use it after your two year contract is up, they have no obligation to let you go. The phone is yours and you don't have to sign another contract but if you want to keep using that specific phone you've already agreed to play by their rules -- even if the rules suck.
It's not monopolistic. There are smartphone alternatives. There is no market monopoly at work. The iPhone was an AT&T exclusive. It's like saying you're going to sue Microsoft because Halo 3 isn't available on all consoles. Yeah you thought you were only stuck with AT&T for two years...you thought wrong, move along. |
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