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madoka
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Koreans figured out how to gainfully employ thousands of people who were otherwise unemployable in their home countries.  |
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bluelake
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| Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 1:23 pm Post subject: |
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Think about actual new inventions, not small changes. Name anything that Korea invented, other than a food item.
1 A water clock. Skippedy doodah.
2. Turtle ship. The admiral still got killed.
3. Metal printing press. Arguable.
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How about the ondol/ heated floor? |
It would depend upon your definition of "Korea". In an area of what is now Siberia, in Russia, there are ruins that have ondol. The area was part of Buyeo, which was one of the precursors to the Goguryeo kingdom. |
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randall020105
Joined: 08 Apr 2008
Location: the land of morning confusion...
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| Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 8:34 pm Post subject: look at Microsoft !!! |
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any every wonder why Gates is so wealthy? same reason Korea is....
take from others improve it or find a group of folks who'll follow your idea...
and yes, sure ... jump on this thread and dispute. Facts are facts... Google Froogle or shmoogle all you want.
my 2 cents.
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DeMayonnaise
Joined: 02 Nov 2008
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All you have to do is spend time in the average Korean classroom or Korean office building to know they aren't creative. Life here is pretty regimented and dull.
When companies hire workers who graduated from the same University as the boss, and the culture says they can't disagree with anyone higher up, you're not going to get much creativity. |
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ThingsComeAround
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| Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 5:04 pm Post subject: |
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| madoka wrote: |
| Koreans figured out how to gainfully employ thousands of people who were otherwise unemployable in their home countries. |
+1
people like you~  |
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jvalmer
Joined: 06 Jun 2003
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| Koreans are very creative, but many of you guys wouldn't know about it since it's all hidden in the Korean language. If you actually make an effort in participating in some of your school's events, you'd realize Koreans can be very creative. |
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seoulsucker
Joined: 05 Mar 2006
Location: The Land of the Hesitant Cutoff
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| Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 5:46 pm Post subject: |
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| jvalmer wrote: |
| Koreans are very creative, but many of you guys wouldn't know about it since it's all hidden in the Korean language. If you actually make an effort in participating in some of your school's events, you'd realize Koreans can be very creative. |
You mean like the art competitions at the top schools in the country where they judge how well their students can copy a famous painting instead of coming up with original works? |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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| Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 6:11 pm Post subject: |
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| ThingsComeAround wrote: |
| madoka wrote: |
| Koreans figured out how to gainfully employ thousands of people who were otherwise unemployable in their home countries. |
+1
people like you~ |
madoka doesn't work in Korea. |
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confucian
Joined: 13 May 2010
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| Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 6:25 pm Post subject: |
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| jvalmer wrote: |
| Koreans are very creative, but many of you guys wouldn't know about it since it's all hidden in the Korean language. If you actually make an effort in participating in some of your school's events, you'd realize Koreans can be very creative. |
no |
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SeoulNate
Joined: 04 Jun 2010
Location: Hyehwa
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| Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 8:51 pm Post subject: |
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| confucian wrote: |
| jvalmer wrote: |
| Koreans are very creative, but many of you guys wouldn't know about it since it's all hidden in the Korean language. If you actually make an effort in participating in some of your school's events, you'd realize Koreans can be very creative. |
no |
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Who's Your Daddy?
Joined: 30 May 2010
Location: Victoria, Canada.
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Isn't more important than inventing something, actually distributing it and putting it to use.
It seems that the USA is really good at introducing products to the marketplace, and making it accessible for the middle class. It seems that the goal of US production is to distribute to the middle class.
Europe never seemed concerned with lowering cost to the middle class, but keeping a product "exclusive" and high profit/unit.
So in their history did Korea distribute it's inventions or just keep them for the elite. |
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Underwaterbob
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I don't think they're not creative, I think their creativity is stifled by an oppressive, overly competitive, conformist encouraging education system.
Take, for example, the most recent English test at my school. There was a question asking which of five adages best described a paragraph. A good student of mine got the question wrong because she interpreted it differently. She was upset and came to me and explained her interpretation. It wasn't as sound as the "correct" answer, but it was still a valid interpretation. Doesn't matter, she chose 3 instead of 4 and blammo, no credit. She'll remember to interpret things the way she's expected to in the future... |
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The Gipkik
Joined: 30 Mar 2009
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I don't think they're not creative, I think their creativity is stifled by an oppressive, overly competitive, conformist encouraging education system.
Take, for example, the most recent English test at my school. There was a question asking which of five adages best described a paragraph. A good student of mine got the question wrong because she interpreted it differently. She was upset and came to me and explained her interpretation. It wasn't as sound as the "correct" answer, but it was still a valid interpretation. Doesn't matter, she chose 3 instead of 4 and blammo, no credit. She'll remember to interpret things the way she's expected to in the future... |
This really has an insidious effect on the mind and behavior. And it's not just Korea that has to deal with it. |
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Louis VI
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
Location: In my Kingdom
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Korean rice is Filipino.
"Halla-bong" is Malaysian.
Korean "go-chu" hot peppers are South American.
Cherry Blossoms are Japanese.
etc.
I thought this thread was gonna be about that: stating it doesn't matter WHERE things comes from, as a culture adopts some things and makes it their own, that identity isn't undermined by citing historical fact. |
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sheriffadam
Joined: 10 May 2010
Location: Busan
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| Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 5:27 am Post subject: |
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Cherry Blossoms are Japanese.
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I read the exact opposite, The Japanese exported the cherry blossom trees to Japan and tried to kill them all off in Korea?
and on the Ondol debate, my fav ancient civilisation (Romans) were fmaous for under floor heating too, I have no idea who did it first or if the two are related though? |
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