Site Search:
 
Speak Korean Now!
Teach English Abroad and Get Paid to see the World!
Korean Job Discussion Forums Forum Index Korean Job Discussion Forums
"The Internet's Meeting Place for ESL/EFL Teachers from Around the World!"
 
 FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 

The end of best friends

 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Korean Job Discussion Forums Forum Index -> Current Events Forum
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
bacasper



Joined: 26 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 7:18 am    Post subject: The end of best friends Reply with quote

The late psychoanalyst Harry Stack Sullivan first hypothesized the importance in the pre- and adolescent developmental stage of 'chumship' in healthy adult functioning. This was borne out by later research. Can we look forward to greater mental illness in future adults if this idiocy becomes more widespread?

A Best Friend? You Must Be Kidding

By HILARY STOUT
Published: June 16, 2010


FROM the time they met in kindergarten until they were 15, Robin Shreeves and her friend Penny were inseparable. They rode bikes, played kickball in the street, swam all summer long and listened to Andy Gibb, the Bay City Rollers and Shaun Cassidy on the stereo. When they were little, they liked Barbies; when they were bigger, they hung out at the roller rink on Friday nights. They told each other secrets like which boys they thought were cute, as best friends always do.

Today, Ms. Shreeves, of suburban Philadelphia, is the mother of two boys. Her 10-year-old has a best friend. In fact, he is the son of Ms. Shreeves�s own friend, Penny. But Ms. Shreeves�s younger son, 8, does not. His favorite playmate is a boy who was in his preschool class, but Ms. Shreeves says that the two don�t get together very often because scheduling play dates can be complicated; they usually have to be planned a week or more in advance. �He�ll say, �I wish I had someone I can always call,� � Ms. Shreeves said.

One might be tempted to feel some sympathy for the younger son. After all, from Tom Sawyer and Huck Finn to Harry Potter and Ron Weasley, the childhood �best friend� has long been romanticized in literature and pop culture � not to mention in the sentimental memories of countless adults.

But increasingly, some educators and other professionals who work with children are asking a question that might surprise their parents: Should a child really have a best friend?

Most children naturally seek close friends. In a survey of nearly 3,000 Americans ages 8 to 24 conducted last year by Harris Interactive, 94 percent said they had at least one close friend. But the classic best-friend bond � the two special pals who share secrets and exploits, who gravitate to each other on the playground and who head out the door together every day after school � signals potential trouble for school officials intent on discouraging anything that hints of exclusivity, in part because of concerns about cliques and bullying.

�I think it is kids� preference to pair up and have that one best friend. As adults � teachers and counselors � we try to encourage them not to do that,� said Christine Laycob, director of counseling at Mary Institute and St. Louis Country Day School in St. Louis. �We try to talk to kids and work with them to get them to have big groups of friends and not be so possessive about friends.�

�Parents sometimes say Johnny needs that one special friend,� she continued. �We say he doesn�t need a best friend.�

more insanity at link
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Junior



Joined: 18 Nov 2005
Location: the eye

PostPosted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 7:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Every kid has 1 or 2 best closest friends when they're growing up surely?
I can't think of anyone who didn't.

But sure..its probably something you grow out of to an extent..adult friendships tend to be a bit more circumstantial, fleeting and shallow IMO.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Senior



Joined: 31 Jan 2010

PostPosted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 7:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My childhood was definitely typified by a "best bud" type scenario. I had two close friends, one in elementary, the other from late elementary through to mid way through high school (he dropped out). I'm actually still pretty close to the one from early elementary. Our relationship hasn't changed one bit since we were seven. I'm not 100% sure where I'm going with this, because the article was even more confused than my response to it.

Trying to change or manipulate kids is like trying to do the same to nature. The world doesn't really work like that.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
bacasper



Joined: 26 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 8:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Junior wrote:
Every kid has 1 or 2 best closest friends when they're growing up surely?
I can't think of anyone who didn't.


Yes. What a depressing article.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
bucheon bum



Joined: 16 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 8:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What a load of absolute rubbish. Why the hell are we (society) trying to intervene more in kids lives? Let them develop on their own for goodness sakes. Freaking baby boomers have done so much damage, it is unbelievable.

I mean what numbskulls thought up this crap:

Quote:
In recent years Timber Lake Camp, a co-ed sleep-away camp in Phoenicia, N.Y., has started employing �friendship coaches� to work with campers to help every child become friends with everyone else. If two children seem to be too focused on each other, the camp will make sure to put them on different sports teams, seat them at different ends of the dining table or, perhaps, have a counselor invite one of them to participate in an activity with another child whom they haven�t yet gotten to know.


Umm hello, maybe they are friends with others for a reason? And not friends with other people for another reason?? I thought this "Let's all get along" trash had been thrown away by now.

At least the shrinks in the article have some common sense:

Quote:
�When a teacher is trying to tone down a best-friend culture, I would like to know why,� Dr. Thompson said. �Is it causing misery for the class? Or is there one girl who does have friends but just can�t bear the thought that she doesn�t have as good a best friend as another? That to me is normal social pain. If you�re mucking around too much in the lives of kids who are just experiencing normal social pain, you shouldn�t be.�
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Hyeon Een



Joined: 24 Jun 2005

PostPosted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 8:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sometimes people mock me because I say things like "I wouldn't mind raising my kids in Korea, I think there are certain things they do right here"

And stories like this make me think I'm right. Korea sucks in a hell of a lot of ways, but there is none of this PC bullshit happening. This stuff isn't even PC, it's just some random idiots with a government job trying to make themselves feel worthwhile and trying to make it seem PC while they do it. It sucks.

I, as a Brit, kind of liked the idea of the American education situation as it was in the 60s, 70s and 80s. It was very different to Britain and, I think, better. This kind of nonsense though ruins it. It destroys it. I can't believe there are people being paid money, through taxpayers contributions, to say crap like this. It's ridiculous. I'd rather homeschool my child than have idiots like the one in the OP directing my child's education.

Also, I'm against homeschooling. In the same way I'm against firearms. I want them/it for myself and family, but don't trust anyone else to have them or be allowed to do it. =)
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
bacasper



Joined: 26 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 9:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think we ought to apply this philosophy to marriage. After all, how much jealousy is caused by people having that one special spouse? We could easily eliminate that by encouraging everybody to be married to everybody else without favorites.

And what about parenthood? Why limit kids just to that one special mother or father? If any of them seem to be getting to close, just switch them around. Rolling Eyes

But seriously, folks, the chumship described by Sullivan is actually a dress rehearsal for an adult romantic relationship. By interfering in that, we may be inadvertently causing more marital dysfunction.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Korean Job Discussion Forums Forum Index -> Current Events Forum All times are GMT - 8 Hours
Page 1 of 1

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum


This page is maintained by the one and only Dave Sperling.
Contact Dave's ESL Cafe
Copyright © 2018 Dave Sperling. All Rights Reserved.

Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2002 phpBB Group

TEFL International Supports Dave's ESL Cafe
TEFL Courses, TESOL Course, English Teaching Jobs - TEFL International