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TheUrbanMyth



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 1:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mises wrote:
TheUrbanMyth wrote:
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mises wrote:


Since we're in the realm of speculation...




...I'm going to be rude. They don't play it well, they play dirty. Let's leave the ethnic nepotism aside. Have you ever seen an argument between a Jewish person and a Gentile? The emotional intensity and all-in go for the throat style of argumentation is not something my people do well (with exceptions). Instead, the Gentile will be allow himself to be shouted over and called names. He will then fume with the fires of hell, but do nothing. That is the weakness that has been exploited. Blacks do much, much better than whites in arguments with Jews.


Yes, yes quite clearly we ARE in the realm of speculation here.


Are you honestly (really?) going to claim that there are not different styles of argumentation? Really? TUM, for once, just shoot straight. Nobody will know. There are around 15 people who read this forum. Just this once.

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Of course there are different styles of argumentation. But to link one specific style of argumentation to a certain ethnicity without allowing for differences within said ethnicity is just mind-boggling to put it nicely.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 6:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

recessiontime wrote:
catman wrote:
There is no Jewish cabal controlling Hollywood. Jews have been successful in the Hollywood business but they are not making movies to benefit Jews.

The conspiracy theorists tend to overlook the more obvious group that controls Hollywood. Men. Cool


read the article before voicing your opinion, thanks.

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News Corp. President Peter Chernin (Jewish), Paramount Pictures Chairman Brad Grey (Jewish), Walt Disney Co. Chief Executive Robert Iger (Jewish), Sony Pictures Chairman Michael Lynton (surprise, Dutch Jew), Warner Bros. Chairman Barry Meyer (Jewish), CBS Corp. Chief Executive Leslie Moonves (so Jewish his great uncle was the first prime minister of Israel), MGM Chairman Harry Sloan (Jewish) and NBC Universal Chief Executive Jeff Zucker (mega-Jewish). If either of the Weinstein brothers had signed, this group would have not only the power to shut down all film production but to form a minyan with enough Fiji water on hand to fill a mikvah."

The Jews are so dominant, I had to scour the trades to come up with six Gentiles in high positions at entertainment companies. When I called them to talk about their incredible advancement, five of them refused to talk to me, apparently out of fear of insulting Jews. The sixth, AMC President Charlie Collier, turned out to be Jewish."


Read my original quote.

How man pro-Israel movies have been made? How many pro-Iraq war movies have been made? How many pro-Iran war movies have been made?
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Konglishman



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sergio Stefanuto wrote:
Konglishman wrote:
Well, it is a reasonable scenario at the very least as it is very common for documents and historical treasures to be destroyed during a war.


Hitler's grandfather remains unknown. But it's highly unlikely that he was a Jew because there were no Jews in this particular town (Graz, Austra) at the relevant time.


Or maybe, its not so unlikely after all...

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DNA tests suggest Hitler may have had Jewish and African ancestry.

The story of Adolf Hitler could be the most twisted in all of history. Add one more twist.

Responsible for the slaughter of millions of Jews and a hero only to self-avowed racists, DNA tests apparently show that the Nazi dictator may have had Jewish and African ancestry.

Several media outlets have reported on results published last week in Knack, a magazine in Belgium.

The British newspaper The Daily Telegraph says that saliva samples were collected from 39 Hitler relatives:

A chromosome called Haplogroup E1b1b1 which showed up in their samples is rare in Western Europe and is most commonly found in the Berbers of Morocco, Algeria and Tunisia, as well as among Ashkenazi and Sephardic Jews ...

Haplogroup E1b1b1, which accounts for approximately 18 to 20 per cent of Ashkenazi and 8.6 per cent to 30 per cent of Sephardic Y-chromosomes, appears to be one of the major founding lineages of the Jewish population.

Many victims of Hitler's Holocaust, like Anne Frank, were Ashkenazi.

Another British paper, The Sun, identified more of the people involved and how two of the samples were obtained:

A journalist working for a magazine in Brussels managed to get hold of a sample from Alexander Stuart-Houston, 61, a grand-nephew of Hitler living in America, after picking up a serviette he had dropped.

Reporter Jean-Paul Mulders used the services of historian Marc Vermeeren to find Hitler's Austrian cousin, a farmer called Norbert H, and 39 other distant relatives of the Fuehrer.

Norbert H apparently gave a saliva sample willingly.

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"Hitler would not have been happy," said Professor Ronny Decorte in a Google translation of the Knack's web-version of the story. Decorte, a genetics expert from Katholieke Universiteit Leuven (a Flemish research university), says that Hitler apparently wasn't "Aryan" -- what the Nazi would have considered "pure." But the research doesn't seem to be conclusive with respect to which groups Hitler may have descended from.

Hitler's preoccupation with ancestry -- including his own -- has caused speculation for many years. New York Daily News points out that this research could validate a historic myth:

Hitler's heritage has been called into question before, with some suggesting his grandfather was Jewish. But this is the first claim with any scientific data to support it.

Similar reports have been made against Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, who has repeatedly denied the Holocaust occurred and regularly bashes Israel.

Knack says that Russia possesses artifacts from Hitler that would contain his DNA, and that researchers could end the speculation if they were allowed to test those items.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/08/25/hitler-jewish-dna-tests-s_n_693568.html
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not interested in Hitler, bringing him up is just a distraction from the original issue of the thread.

So far nobody has challenged the facts in the original article. Some have tried to reframe the facts to make it seem like a positive thing rather than a negative which is all that can be done.
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TheUrbanMyth



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 9:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

recessiontime wrote:
I'm not interested in Hitler, bringing him up is just a distraction from the original issue of the thread.

So far nobody has challenged the facts in the original article. Some have tried to reframe the facts to make it seem like a positive thing rather than a negative which is all that can be done.


Why is it not a positive thing? Did you see Mr. Fox's remark on the first page about Caucasian Christians holding a disproportionate amount of power?

Why is that not a cause for concern and a handful of Jewish people are?
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 9:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Media, finance and culture. The three areas of dominance. All are complete moral wastelands. Degenerate wastelands of upside down values. How about porn? Totally dominated.

I do not care if people X dominate finance in as much as they don't turn it into a giant ponzi scheme that benefits - for the most part - them. I don't care if it is Italians, Kenyans, Irish. I don't care. But the current batch of elite have proven themselves utterly corrupt and incompetent. The comparisons with Wiemar Germany are god damn scary.

I am moderate compared to what I've been hearing lately. Out of the blue.

Look at the belligerent crap my people are subjected to.

http://www.timwise.org/2010/11/an-open-letter-to-the-white-right-on-the-occasion-of-your-recent-successful-temper-tantrum/

Nobody talks to the Jews like that. Only they talk about us like that.

Y'all think we won't notice? We won't notice that Bernanke, Greenspan, Rubin, Summers have destroyed millions of lives? We won't notice the Office of Special Plans? We won't notice the neo-con war mongers (Kristol, Podhoritz). And then Tim Wise has the damn nerve. It is incredible. Simply incredible.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGqVTmEwlJU

She is talking about ethnic cleansing. Cultural genocide.

So Urban Myth, that's why it matters.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mises wrote:
Media, finance and culture. The three areas of dominance. All are complete moral wastelands. Degenerate wastelands of upside down values. How about porn? Totally dominated.

I do not care if people X dominate finance in as much as they don't turn it into a giant ponzi scheme that benefits - for the most part - them. I don't care if it is Italians, Kenyans, Irish. I don't care. But the current batch of elite have proven themselves utterly corrupt and incompetent. The comparisons with Wiemar Germany are god damn scary.

I am moderate compared to what I've been hearing lately. Out of the blue.

Look at the belligerent crap my people are subjected to.

http://www.timwise.org/2010/11/an-open-letter-to-the-white-right-on-the-occasion-of-your-recent-successful-temper-tantrum/

Nobody talks to the Jews like that. Only they talk about us like that.

Y'all think we won't notice? We won't notice that Bernanke, Greenspan, Rubin, Summers have destroyed millions of lives? We won't notice the Office of Special Plans? We won't notice the neo-con war mongers (Kristol, Podhoritz). And then Tim Wise has the damn nerve. It is incredible. Simply incredible.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGqVTmEwlJU

She is talking about ethnic cleansing. Cultural genocide.

So Urban Myth, that's why it matters.



Tim Wise or whoever wrote that article isn't Jewish. The author is talking about racial demographics. And the letter was addressed to the "right white". Are those people (supremists and the sort) "your people"?


It has absolutely nothing to do with the topic under discussion. As for cultural genocide what are you talking about? You want to talk film? Fine. To list just one example out of all the Hollywood actors today a disproportional majority are white/non Jewish.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 9:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tim Wise is Jewish.

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"right white". Are those people (supremacists and the sort) "your people"?


I am as ethnocentric as your average Jew. Which makes me to the right of just about every human being on earth. So yes. I'm also keenly aware of who (whom) wiped out my grandmothers family in the Ukraine so the holocaust/nazi/supremacist label from Jews doesn't work on me.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 9:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Apparently Europe cannot survive without multiculturalism. That's it, game over mises. QED.

That whole surviving up until now must of been a streak of luck I guess. Of course I do see the validity of bringing over professionals to Western countries which have desirable skills. That doesn't mean Western countries should embrace people of different ethnic backgrounds for the sake of multiculturalism. That is just ridiculous.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 9:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

recessiontime wrote:
Apparently Europe cannot survive without multiculturalism. That's it, game over mises. QED.

That whole surviving up until now must of been a streak of luck I guess. Of course I do see the validity of bringing over professionals to Western countries which have desirable skills. That doesn't mean Western countries should embrace people of different ethnic backgrounds for the sake of multiculturalism. That is just ridiculous.


We may not live amongst ourselves. Look at the joy Tim Wise expresses. That's the real deal there. That's the whole game.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 9:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mises wrote:
Look at the belligerent crap my people are subjected to.

http://www.timwise.org/2010/11/an-open-letter-to-the-white-right-on-the-occasion-of-your-recent-successful-temper-tantrum/

Nobody talks to the Jews like that. Only they talk about us like that.


You're really asserting no one goes on anti-Jewish rants? I'm on your side about articles like this being ridiculous and unreasonable, but plenty of people have a smug attitude of disdain for Jews, and they've been known to give voice to them.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 9:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mises wrote:
Tim Wise is Jewish.



According to Wiki his father is Jewish but his mother is not.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 9:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

recessiontime wrote:
Of course I do see the validity of bringing over professionals to Western countries which have desirable skills.


You know, I've been thinking about this a bit lately. It seems to me that unless there is a severe and peresistent shortage of professionals in a given field, "importing" them cheats native born citizens out of an opportunity to take full advantage of the need for that kind of worker. Is it really wise to continually import large quantities of highly skilled people instead of focusing on training programs for your natives? A highly skilled population sounds intuitively good, but in reality may result in extensive underemployment.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 10:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheUrbanMyth wrote:
mises wrote:
Tim Wise is Jewish.



According to Wiki his father is Jewish but his mother is not.


He identifies as a Jew. I have been following his racist rantings for years. He will identify as a Jew in interviews with other Jews.

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You're really asserting no one goes on anti-Jewish rants? I'm on your side about articles like this being ridiculous and unreasonable, but plenty of people have a smug attitude of disdain for Jews, and they've been known to give voice to them.


Tim Wise is not just some guy. He is a darling of the academic establishment. He goes on all the TV shows. He is respected because he spits venom at whites. You show me a similar WASP or Catholic. All you'll get is Kevin B. Macdonald who goes on Radio Free Mississippi once a year.

The last time a Western country was this dominated by hostile Jews who hated the population tens upon tens of millions of people died. Including an entire section of my family. That is the risk in America. That the elite will turn on the country. There is sufficient hate in place.

http://www.kevinmacdonald.net/SlezkineRev.pdf

Read the whole thing.

Here's a relevant quote:

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Nor does he mention von Treitschke�s comment that �what Jewish journalists write in mockery and satirical remarks against Christianity is downright revolting�; �about the shortcomings of the Germans [or] French, everybody could freely say the worst things; but if somebody dared to speak in just and moderate terms about some undeniable weakness of the Jewish character, he was immediately branded as a barbarian and religious persecutor by nearly all of the newspapers.�27 Such attitudes were prominent among anti-Jewish writers and activists, reaching a crescendo with the National Socialists in Germany.


Sound familiar?


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 10:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fox wrote:
recessiontime wrote:
Of course I do see the validity of bringing over professionals to Western countries which have desirable skills.


You know, I've been thinking about this a bit lately. It seems to me that unless there is a severe and peresistent shortage of professionals in a given field, "importing" them cheats native born citizens out of an opportunity to take full advantage of the need for that kind of worker. Is it really wise to continually import large quantities of highly skilled people instead of focusing on training programs for your natives? A highly skilled population sounds intuitively good, but in reality may result in extensive underemployment.


Usually the number of these professionals that are high in demand are pretty low. And yes it is often regulated by government. Places like Australia are ahead of the immigration game by imposing very strict laws that only let in skilled workers on a coveted list of 100 or so jobs. It's not just higher skilled that matter, but the skills in demand at that point in time.
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