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Introverts in Korea (roll call)
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Globutron



Joined: 13 Feb 2010
Location: England/Anyang

PostPosted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 11:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah, Tomato you join music classes? Is that to say you live in Seoul or are these everywhere? I'm a music major myself. A composer, *not* a performer. People don't understand the fact that I hate performing, EVEN THOUGH I studied music, which means I MUST perform. urrrgh.

I do tend to hate Extroverts yes, Often in an unfair way. I don't often say 'because they're extroverts', I tend to say because they're American. Because all the Americans I have met (outside of the one who recently left my place who became my best friend) are military rambunctious fools, or loud and provocative at the least.

I remember wanting to search for any studies that showed the statistical evidence of Introverts geographically. I imagined on a simple scale that places like Korea would have more Introverts than England because of Cultural effects.

However, it turns out its a lot less simple than that and It's a little too specific and pointless for anybody to dedicate their time and money into doing. Ah well.


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Edit. Also, My best friend for many many years is an Extravert, as are at least 60% of my close main group of friends back home (listing to about 20 if I don't single out *very* close friends, which is about 4), But these I seem to like hugely, probably because I've known them since I was 7 years old, and the IN/EX distance was not so important at that age... But either way we've stuck with each other despite how very different we are. It can be done!


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Louis VI



Joined: 05 Jul 2010
Location: In my Kingdom

PostPosted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 11:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

INTP here.
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Globutron



Joined: 13 Feb 2010
Location: England/Anyang

PostPosted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 11:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Louis VI wrote:
INTP here.
That depends on which Louis VI you are...
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Louis VI



Joined: 05 Jul 2010
Location: In my Kingdom

PostPosted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 11:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Globutron wrote:
Louis VI wrote:
INTP here.
That depends on which Louis VI you are...

There were three in history, true. One was really fat, one never ruled and one was impotent. Shocked I like to think I'm the one and only VI INTP in ESL.
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tomato



Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: I get so little foreign language experience, I must be in Koreatown, Los Angeles.

PostPosted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 2:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm a composer, too.
Here is an easy cello piece:

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v500/pentatonika/rocknroll1.jpg
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v500/pentatonika/rocknroll2.jpg
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v500/pentatonika/rocknroll3.jpg
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v500/pentatonika/rocknroll4.jpg
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v500/pentatonika/rocknroll5.jpg
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v500/pentatonika/rocknroll6.jpg
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v500/pentatonika/rocknroll7.jpg
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v500/pentatonika/rocknroll8.jpg

Here is a transcription of four easy Korean songs, for contrabass:

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v500/pentatonika/bass1.jpg
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v500/pentatonika/bass2.jpg
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v500/pentatonika/bass3.jpg
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v500/pentatonika/bass4.jpg
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v500/pentatonika/bass5.jpg
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v500/pentatonika/bass6.jpg
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v500/pentatonika/bass7.jpg
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v500/pentatonika/bass8.jpg
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v500/pentatonika/bass9.jpg

Here is Bachianas Americanus, for lower brass:

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v500/pentatonika/bach1.jpg
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v500/pentatonika/bach2.jpg
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v500/pentatonika/bach3.jpg
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v500/pentatonika/bach4.jpg
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v500/pentatonika/bach5.jpg
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v500/pentatonika/bach6.jpg
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v500/pentatonika/bach7.jpg
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v500/pentatonika/bach8.jpg

Music classes aren't as easy to find as Japanese classes and sign language classes.
I found a danso class when I was living in 홍성 and an ocarina class when I was living in 청주.

I enjoy analyzing music more than I enjoy performing it.
Other music students seem to think that analyzing music is Dullsville.

I am an exception to your rule, because I am from the United States.
Maybe the reason I came here was to escape all those extraverts.
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Globutron



Joined: 13 Feb 2010
Location: England/Anyang

PostPosted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 3:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's great. Unfortunately almost all of my music... Wait, all of it, was lost in a devastating Hard drive failure, CD collection back up loss and friend wiping out his emails of my backups in one fell swoop.

I've got some lingering MP3's that I had left on my USB noggle and whatever I've constructed since, which isn't much, It's very disheartening to know all your achievements at uni no longer exist.

So I'll provide you with this since we're sharing:

http://box.net/files#/files/0/f/32999330/1/f_408468294 - Me singing some vocal harmonies

http://box.net/files#/files/0/f/32999330/1/f_360185641 - A tribute to a fellow American Composer who is also an Introvert who also spends most of his days analyzing music.

http://soundclick.com/share?songid=8220693 - One of the first Whole classical pieces I ever did (Minus one called Op.Duck and another called Quixote)
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kberger



Joined: 22 Oct 2009

PostPosted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 11:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I better post in this thread.

I'm definitely introverted. I read a lot of books, stay home most nights, and have spent a disgusting amount of time playing Diablo 2.
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tomato



Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: I get so little foreign language experience, I must be in Koreatown, Los Angeles.

PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 12:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is one significant lesson which I learned from this thread:
and that is not to listen to extravert chauvinists.
An extravert chauvinist is a person who says,
"An extravert has the best of both assets.
If you put your book down for awhile and come join the Extravert Generation,
you will not only meet your emotional needs,
but you will get a well needed study break!
Once you have had your study break, you can return to the study carrel with renewed vigor!
So you will sacrifice absolutely nothing by converting to extraversion!"

You can test the extravert chauvinist claim by comparing this thread to almost any other thread.
I bet there are more spelling and punctuation errors on just one page of any other thread than there are in all of this thread.
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jd126



Joined: 28 Jun 2010

PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 5:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tomato is great, simply great, the world needz more potatoes.

for realz yo
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namerae



Joined: 10 Jun 2010
Location: Anyang, RoK

PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 7:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've come back to this thread about three times and never posted.

I'm introverted in my adulthood, but was very extroverted as a young teenager. I loved being the center of attention, surrounded by people, and constantly in conversation with others, whether it be in person or on the phone (sometimes both at the same time). I had trouble being ALONE and found myself to be a very boring and pale person when not surrounded by people (even those who were not true friends).

Now, I find that I occasionally crave the bar/restaurant/large group scene, but can only stomach it for a couple of hours before 1) wishing I was somewhere else, b) politely backing out of the event, or c) faking sickness/sleepiness, or other plans with other people.

When arriving in Korea, the most important things to me are:
- my personal environment (apt, classroom, "escape spot" like the park or something similar within walking distance); not the size per say, but making it my own, or finding it appealing/tolerable
- establishing a routine
- finding volunteer work such as walking sheltered dogs
- making a connection with at least one or two other people that exceeds the bar scene or jovial, meaningless conversation

I'd like to try and be outgoing and forward with strangers, but it's not in my nature to talk to people in the checkout or start a conversation in the waiting room at the doctor's office or whathaveyou. I'm relatively shy, but am the kind of person that will respond and coax conversation once initially engaged. I'm quite the opposite with kids (which is why I like teaching), but am curious whether my quietness will be an issue to Korean coworkers.

tldr version: I was extroverted, now introverted, am good with kids but shy when approached by peers. Hopefully I will be OK in Korea. haha
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Globutron



Joined: 13 Feb 2010
Location: England/Anyang

PostPosted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 4:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does everyone here have an Escape spot? River, 2 minutes walk away for me.
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pangaea



Joined: 20 Dec 2007

PostPosted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 5:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a river....somewhere outside of town that I'm not sure how to get to. Sad I was expecting to be closer to nature here. Looks like I was wrong.
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namerae



Joined: 10 Jun 2010
Location: Anyang, RoK

PostPosted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 7:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Globutron wrote:
Does everyone here have an Escape spot? River, 2 minutes walk away for me.


I know I have one at home, near my old workplace, and outside of friend's houses. It's always a comfort to know there's a special spot I can go to when I'm feeling like getting away from people.

All my other introvert friends have places like this. Only one I know of does this in his mind. He is gifted with a very vivid imagination.
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Kaypea



Joined: 09 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 9:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You guys mean escape spots from work? Few people bother communicating with me there, I'm not too communicative. When I go home, nobody bugs me either. If somebody phones, I probably don't pick up. It's pretty easy to escape.
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xanthekelsylva



Joined: 06 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 9:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not necessarily introverted; I'm sort of between introverted and extroverted. My issue is that I'm having trouble finding a place where I can dance all night and drink and hang out and stuff without anyone assuming that I want to "get lucky"/"hook up"/whatever. Sure, there's moments when I feel like getting stupid, but I've just had it go wrong too many times. Now I kind of get annoyed with the whole "getting lucky" thing.

As for random conversation, it's fun 80% of the time, the rest of the time I think, "what am I, a celebrity? Can't I walk to the store without being asked if I have a boyfriend?" But it's cool if I feel lonely... just walk out the door and voila, people want to talk to me!

I guess being hourglass shaped goes back and forth between really cool and really awkward.
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