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Corporal



Joined: 25 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Thu Mar 11, 2004 11:35 pm    Post subject: ridiculous expectations. Reply with quote

1. Master's degree in TEFL/TESL, English, Education or Reading preferred.
or
2. Bachelor's degree (BA or BS) in English, Language and Literature or Education. (CELTA is a plus.)
3. Minimum of 2 years experience teaching English.
4. Minimum of 5 years experience teaching children.

Duties:
1. Teach between 3:00 and 10:00 pm, M-F. These positions do not include classes that continue throughout the entire day. No mornings or weekends.
2. Assist with student assessment and course testing.
3. Prepare supplemental material.
4. Assist with curriculum development.
5. Cooperate with other teachers to produce quality material.

Contract Package:
1. Salary range from 1.8-2 million Korean won per month, based on experience.


Come ON. The debate over experience/"real" qualifications notwithstanding, I was making more than that my first year here with no experience whatsoever.

I don't think this director is going to get too many applications.
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kangnamdragon



Joined: 17 Jan 2003
Location: Kangnam, Seoul, Korea

PostPosted: Thu Mar 11, 2004 11:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

2 million with an MA Laughing
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Homer
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 12, 2004 5:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

2 million with a BA is allright.

2 million with an M.A. is insulting... Laughing


Heck, when I fist came over back in good ole 1997 I signed for 1.1!!!

Then the currency floor fell out...those were some intereting days...ahh...not Laughing
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TheUrbanMyth



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired

PostPosted: Fri Mar 12, 2004 8:41 pm    Post subject: Re: ridiculous expectations. Reply with quote

Corporal wrote:
1. Master's degree in TEFL/TESL, English, Education or Reading preferred.
or
2. Bachelor's degree (BA or BS) in English, Language and Literature or Education. (CELTA is a plus.)
3. Minimum of 2 years experience teaching English.
4. Minimum of 5 years experience teaching children.

Duties:
1. Teach between 3:00 and 10:00 pm, M-F. These positions do not include classes that continue throughout the entire day. No mornings or weekends.
2. Assist with student assessment and course testing.
3. Prepare supplemental material.
4. Assist with curriculum development.
5. Cooperate with other teachers to produce quality material.

Contract Package:
1. Salary range from 1.8-2 million Korean won per month, based on experience.


Come ON. The debate over experience/"real" qualifications notwithstanding, I was making more than that my first year here with no experience whatsoever.

I don't think this director is going to get too many applications.




True that. However we should consider the other side of the coin as well.
I have seen ridiculous teacher expectations. (This was on a actual resume I saw, although I will paraphrase to save space)

1. Salary of 2.3 million
2. 25 hour work week
3. Full Internet and cable access at apartment
4. Korean co-teacher in class
5. No phone teaching, no kindergarten, no elementary
6. No marking, no test-giving.
7. Overtime is not an option
8. The above requirements are non-negotiable

The person writing this had six months of experience and a B.A.
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Mr. Pink



Joined: 21 Oct 2003
Location: China

PostPosted: Fri Mar 12, 2004 9:12 pm    Post subject: Re: ridiculous expectations. Reply with quote

TheUrbanMyth wrote:
Corporal wrote:
1. Master's degree in TEFL/TESL, English, Education or Reading preferred.
or
2. Bachelor's degree (BA or BS) in English, Language and Literature or Education. (CELTA is a plus.)
3. Minimum of 2 years experience teaching English.
4. Minimum of 5 years experience teaching children.

Duties:
1. Teach between 3:00 and 10:00 pm, M-F. These positions do not include classes that continue throughout the entire day. No mornings or weekends.
2. Assist with student assessment and course testing.
3. Prepare supplemental material.
4. Assist with curriculum development.
5. Cooperate with other teachers to produce quality material.

Contract Package:
1. Salary range from 1.8-2 million Korean won per month, based on experience.


Come ON. The debate over experience/"real" qualifications notwithstanding, I was making more than that my first year here with no experience whatsoever.

I don't think this director is going to get too many applications.




True that. However we should consider the other side of the coin as well.
I have seen ridiculous teacher expectations. (This was on a actual resume I saw, although I will paraphrase to save space)

1. Salary of 2.3 million
2. 25 hour work week
3. Full Internet and cable access at apartment
4. Korean co-teacher in class
5. No phone teaching, no kindergarten, no elementary
6. No marking, no test-giving.
7. Overtime is not an option
8. The above requirements are non-negotiable

The person writing this had six months of experience and a B.A.


Yeah some people got the "God" complex. They think they are so valuable...perhaps desperate people might give in, but when they get screwed outta their last months pay and severence, guess they might want to reflect on the fact good schools don't pay as much, but you always get paid...which is important.
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Derrek



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2004 7:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Geesh... I wouldn't call that so intelligent.

25 hour work week???
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TheUrbanMyth



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired

PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2004 10:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Derrek wrote:
Geesh... I wouldn't call that so intelligent.

25 hour work week???


I only work 24 at my hakwon, but then I don't get all those other benefits the other fellow was asking for either. Get what you can, and then do your job. That's my philosophy anyways.
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Toby



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
Location: Wedded Bliss

PostPosted: Mon Mar 15, 2004 12:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In true Korean style, they want what they consider the best - CELTA, TOEFL, Masters, Education and a shed load of experience, but are only willing to pay what thay pay the other monkeys. Kind of insulting really to those who have studied and have done the time.

Oh yes. And you have to be Canadian, preferably female.
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crazylemongirl



Joined: 23 Mar 2003
Location: almost there...

PostPosted: Mon Mar 15, 2004 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I signed on for my current job, which is a lot less than what my 'market rate' is. However the hours, holidays and stabilty more than make up for it.
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Toby



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
Location: Wedded Bliss

PostPosted: Mon Mar 15, 2004 11:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Which market would that be?
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Mr. Pink



Joined: 21 Oct 2003
Location: China

PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2004 1:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Toby wrote:
Which market would that be?


Yes I'd be curious about that too.
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Toby



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
Location: Wedded Bliss

PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2004 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Still waiting...........
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Crois



Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: You could be next so watch out.

PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2004 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've already come...
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Toby



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
Location: Wedded Bliss

PostPosted: Wed Mar 17, 2004 7:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Crois wrote:
I've already come...


We did hear you are a bit premature.
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crazylemongirl



Joined: 23 Mar 2003
Location: almost there...

PostPosted: Wed Mar 17, 2004 8:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok sorry forgot to check the in. My 'market' rate is based on the salary offers that I got from hogowns during my job hunt.
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