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Sector7G
Joined: 24 May 2008
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| I am not a huge fan of heavy beers, so that excludes a bunch of beers right there |
I'm the opposite. I prefer darker beers these days. Usually if a beer has both a dark and regular version, I like the dark better. Lately I have been drinking(and enjoying) Beck's dark, as it has been on sale at Homeplus. It's also why I think Black Stout is the only Korean beer I can tolerate.
Like I said before, I think our tastes evolve. I started out like most guys, drinking what our dads drank. Mine drank Budweiser, except when he had some extra dough he'd drink Michelob. That was his idea of the good stuff. Actually, when I worked in tourism in Orlando I had a Brit tell me Michelob was the only American beer he thought was halfway decent. I have not drunk it in so long I can't remember. |
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Underwaterbob
Joined: 08 Jan 2005
Location: In Cognito
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| Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 7:16 am Post subject: |
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| Lately Hoegaarden is my beer of choice in Korea. It's made an appearance in cans which had me worried at first, but it might even be better than the bottled variety. |
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bucheon bum
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 7:18 am Post subject: |
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| I've never even seen Yuengling in stores. Must be a NE thing. |
East Coast and the South to a lesser extent. Can't get it north of NY, or west of Ohio. They brew it in PA and FL. It is everywhere in PA, MD, and DC. |
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Privateer
Joined: 31 Aug 2005
Location: Easy Street.
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| Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 7:31 am Post subject: Re: Beer Survey..... |
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| air76 wrote: |
| I have traveled far and wide across the planet and have never been to a country where I encountered worse beer across the board than in Korea. |
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| Out of curiosity, has anyone ever been somewhere that was worse? |
No.
Ok, one possible exception: a drink calling itself 'Snow' beer in China. Tasted like melted snow. I think it was about 1% alcohol so it was actually too weak to qualify as beer.
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| I think that Thai beer is pretty bad, but you can get Tiger there for a reasonable price, which is OK, so I think that they're off the hook even though Tiger is from Singapore. |
I like Tiger beer but perhaps it just seems good by comparison. |
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stuckinGwangjuwith
Joined: 16 Apr 2009
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| Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 9:57 pm Post subject: |
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http://kcanari.egloos.com/3234181
I came across this blog and found an interesting tidbit on why Korean beer is quite crap, decided to translate some key points:
-the alcohol tax on Korean beer is 72%, which is an astounding rate compared to 5% for makgeolli.
-30% of the alcohol tax is added on for education tax
-10% additional taxes, which makes the tax rates on Korean beer a mind boggling 93.6%; about half the price of the Korean beer goes to tax, which greatly affects the manufacturing costs, so if there are makgeolli and Korean beer of equal value, makgeolli was made with higher manufacturing fees, which would also mean made with better ingredients
-beer tax rates in France 22.7%, Germany 20.4%, US 16.3%, UK 45.6%, Japan 45.2%
-beer was perceived as 'high quality Western alcohol' by Japan and Korea, which prompted high beer taxes befitting luxury items
-beer tax in Korea until 1997 was 150%
-President Park Chung Hee raises the beer taxes in 1966 by 100%, resulting in beer taxes amounting for a whopping 38% of overall alcoholic taxes accounted for while beer only takes up 5.9% of the alcoholic beverage production
And for the kicker, from the same blog: http://kcanari.egloos.com/3368998
-as long as the amount of barley contained in the beer is over 10%, it can be sold as beer in Korea
To sum it up, Korean beer is more like a beer flavored alcoholic beverage.
Also, the Korean government made sure the import beers would never beat the domestic beers by adding 100% import tax as opposed to 20-30$ import tax for other alcoholic beverages. |
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Steelrails
Joined: 12 Mar 2009
Location: Earth, Solar System
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| Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 10:53 pm Post subject: |
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| Sector7G wrote: |
| SeoulNate wrote: |
| I am not a huge fan of heavy beers, so that excludes a bunch of beers right there |
I'm the opposite. I prefer darker beers these days. Usually if a beer has both a dark and regular version, I like the dark better. Lately I have been drinking(and enjoying) Beck's dark, as it has been on sale at Homeplus. It's also why I think Black Stout is the only Korean beer I can tolerate.
Like I said before, I think our tastes evolve. I started out like most guys, drinking what our dads drank. Mine drank Budweiser, except when he had some extra dough he'd drink Michelob. That was his idea of the good stuff. Actually, when I worked in tourism in Orlando I had a Brit tell me Michelob was the only American beer he thought was halfway decent. I have not drunk it in so long I can't remember. |
Michelob Amber Bock is a decent brew. Plain old Michelob falls under the category of 'acceptable'. Better than Sam Adams in my opinion, Sam Adams, except for the Cherry Wheat, is boo to me. |
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amanley206253
Joined: 09 Aug 2009
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| Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 3:29 am Post subject: |
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| With every taste of Hite, Max, or Cass, I shed a tear in remembrance of a frothy pint of Mac and Jacks, Pyramid, Blue Moon, and countless others.... |
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amanley206253
Joined: 09 Aug 2009
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| Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 3:30 am Post subject: |
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| stuckinGwangjuwith wrote: |
http://kcanari.egloos.com/3234181
I came across this blog and found an interesting tidbit on why Korean beer is quite crap, decided to translate some key points:
-the alcohol tax on Korean beer is 72%, which is an astounding rate compared to 5% for makgeolli.
-30% of the alcohol tax is added on for education tax
-10% additional taxes, which makes the tax rates on Korean beer a mind boggling 93.6%; about half the price of the Korean beer goes to tax, which greatly affects the manufacturing costs, so if there are makgeolli and Korean beer of equal value, makgeolli was made with higher manufacturing fees, which would also mean made with better ingredients
-beer tax rates in France 22.7%, Germany 20.4%, US 16.3%, UK 45.6%, Japan 45.2%
-beer was perceived as 'high quality Western alcohol' by Japan and Korea, which prompted high beer taxes befitting luxury items
-beer tax in Korea until 1997 was 150%
-President Park Chung Hee raises the beer taxes in 1966 by 100%, resulting in beer taxes amounting for a whopping 38% of overall alcoholic taxes accounted for while beer only takes up 5.9% of the alcoholic beverage production
And for the kicker, from the same blog: http://kcanari.egloos.com/3368998
-as long as the amount of barley contained in the beer is over 10%, it can be sold as beer in Korea
To sum it up, Korean beer is more like a beer flavored alcoholic beverage.
Also, the Korean government made sure the import beers would never beat the domestic beers by adding 100% import tax as opposed to 20-30$ import tax for other alcoholic beverages. |
Very, very interesting. The state of beer in Korea always seemed to be without some explanation. |
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brier
Joined: 14 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 5:54 am Post subject: |
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I find "snow" one of the better beers at the chinese mart I sometimes visit. Tsingtao is overrated. Harbin beer is good too, if you can find it. |
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joeteacher
Joined: 11 Jul 2007
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| Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 6:38 am Post subject: |
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| stuckinGwangjuwith wrote: |
http://kcanari.egloos.com/3234181
I came across this blog and found an interesting tidbit on why Korean beer is quite crap, decided to translate some key points:
-the alcohol tax on Korean beer is 72%, which is an astounding rate compared to 5% for makgeolli.
-30% of the alcohol tax is added on for education tax
-10% additional taxes, which makes the tax rates on Korean beer a mind boggling 93.6%; about half the price of the Korean beer goes to tax, which greatly affects the manufacturing costs, so if there are makgeolli and Korean beer of equal value, makgeolli was made with higher manufacturing fees, which would also mean made with better ingredients
-beer tax rates in France 22.7%, Germany 20.4%, US 16.3%, UK 45.6%, Japan 45.2%
-beer was perceived as 'high quality Western alcohol' by Japan and Korea, which prompted high beer taxes befitting luxury items
-beer tax in Korea until 1997 was 150%
-President Park Chung Hee raises the beer taxes in 1966 by 100%, resulting in beer taxes amounting for a whopping 38% of overall alcoholic taxes accounted for while beer only takes up 5.9% of the alcoholic beverage production
And for the kicker, from the same blog: http://kcanari.egloos.com/3368998
-as long as the amount of barley contained in the beer is over 10%, it can be sold as beer in Korea
To sum it up, Korean beer is more like a beer flavored alcoholic beverage.
Also, the Korean government made sure the import beers would never beat the domestic beers by adding 100% import tax as opposed to 20-30$ import tax for other alcoholic beverages. |
Thanks for posting this. Very interesting and disapointing, now I understand why there are only a few different kinds of beers here. So basically a lot of Hite/Cass lobbying has kept away foreign competition?
On a side note, I just enjoyed a bottle of Arrogant Bastard Pale Ale last night..and it was yummy. |
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bucheon bum
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 6:44 am Post subject: |
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| joeteacher wrote: |
| On a side note, I just enjoyed a bottle of Arrogant Bastard Pale Ale last night..and it was yummy. |
Now that is a quality beer. |
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nukeday
Joined: 13 May 2010
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| Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 3:53 pm Post subject: |
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| I love Stone, and San Diego beer in general. alesmith, ballast point (though this is more of a personal preference). the big 3. |
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Richard Krainium
Joined: 12 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 4:05 pm Post subject: |
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| brier wrote: |
I find "snow" one of the better beers at the chinese mart I sometimes visit. Tsingtao is overrated. Harbin beer is good too, if you can find it. |
You can get Harbin, Tsingtao and a couple other Chinese beers in Incheon's Chinatown.
24,000 won for a case of 12 - 640cc bottles of Tsingtao. Harbin and the other brands are cheaper at 20,000 won. Good deal if you like Harbin/Snow, ect... I've tried them all. I'll stick with Tsingtao. |
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Richard Krainium
Joined: 12 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 4:14 pm Post subject: |
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| nukeday wrote: |
| I love Stone, and San Diego beer in general. alesmith, ballast point (though this is more of a personal preference). the big 3. |
+1
Stone Brewery makes very nice craft beers. Arrogant Bastard is one of their best.
Check out BeerAdvocate's glowing review.
http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/147/92/ |
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brickabrack
Joined: 17 May 2010
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| Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 4:58 pm Post subject: |
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"I love Stone, and San Diego beer in general. alesmith, ballast point (though this is more of a personal preference). the big 3."
Don't forget Green Flash or Port.
I used to be able to get 12oz Dead Guys in China for 12 yuan!! The owner of the place had empty growlers all over the place. |
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