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Caffeinated
Joined: 11 Feb 2010
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Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 5:36 pm Post subject: Non-white ESL university teachers - do they exist? |
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Besides kyopos, do they exist? Just wondering. |
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ovid
Joined: 30 May 2007
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Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 5:49 pm Post subject: |
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I have seen South Africans (blacks) with university positions, but they have strong credentials (either PhD or university teaching experience).
I hate to admit it, but for a pretty simple university, most will take the white foreigner over the better qualified minority. I know a few teachers like this who got job preference over in Dongdaemun.
They had about a year experience teaching in Korea at a hawgwon and were picked over nonwhite candidates with masters and better teaching presentations.
I know for a lot of the better universities, race will be less of an issue, but credentials are a must (masters, PhD, lots of experience teaching). |
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Milwaukiedave
Joined: 02 Oct 2004 Location: Goseong
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Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 5:53 pm Post subject: |
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I worked at a uni in Seoul that had an African American teacher from the East Coast, so yes it does happen. My current uni doesn't have any minorities aside from Kyopos. |
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PigeonFart
Joined: 27 Apr 2006
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Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 6:40 pm Post subject: |
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The racism is an absolute disgrace here. Diversity is known to foster creativity. You'd think the people at University level would know that. What a bunch of wankers (pardon my french). |
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oldfatfarang
Joined: 19 May 2005 Location: On the road to somewhere.
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Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 7:29 pm Post subject: |
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I knew of a really nice Phillipine lady and an Indian guy who were professors at a foreign language uni in Seoul. They were teaching economic and marketing (?).
Both really nice people, and well educated and experienced. Both felt they were going to be canned after 6 months (bad student reviews) - but I left, so I never found out. |
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ttompatz

Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 7:45 pm Post subject: Re: Non-white ESL university teachers - do they exist? |
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Caffeinated wrote: |
Besides kyopos, do they exist? Just wondering. |
When I was working at the Korean National Police University we had 1 Afro American and 1 eastern European (Bosnian with a Canadian passport) working in the English department.
There were only the 3 of us that year working as visiting professors (E1). We had no kyopos on staff.
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TheFoodie
Joined: 18 Jan 2010 Location: Ebay Central
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Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 2:10 am Post subject: |
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Yep! |
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yesman

Joined: 15 Sep 2006
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Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 5:40 am Post subject: |
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Yes, at a larger uni without a masters. But probably a rare situation. |
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djsmnc

Joined: 20 Jan 2003 Location: Dave's ESL Cafe
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Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 6:43 am Post subject: |
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PigeonFart wrote: |
The racism is an absolute disgrace here. Diversity is known to foster creativity. You'd think the people at University level would know that. What a bunch of wankers (pardon my french). |
Come on now, they are all Asian but they have white teachers. That's diversity! |
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misher
Joined: 14 Oct 2008
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Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 6:59 am Post subject: |
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I'm not sure about the mom and pop hakwons or public schools but at the chain I work at there are more than 4 or 5 black guys from the states. Heck, even 3 program managers are Canadian with a background from the middle east.
A guy a went to Sogang with is black and he gets just along fine in seoul. He just finished his 3rd contract at a hagwon and is now moving on to a uni gig.
There are some places with racist hiring policies for sure, but I think in Seoul this isn't as common as one would think. |
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makemischief

Joined: 04 Nov 2005 Location: Traveling
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Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 8:17 am Post subject: |
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My uni has Korean, Kyopo, Indian, and African Americans teaching in its English department. Definitely not common, but some schools are becoming more progressive with regards to race: focusing on the professional qualifications instead (shocking!). |
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