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wiganer



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 2:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mc_jc wrote:
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I want to believe you! But the media is persuasive.

That's perfectly ok. Some people are not capable of critical thinking and deductive reasoning.


China keeps North Korea afloat under the policy of having "satellite states" that cushion an invasion and give the Chinese time to mobilize their forces to repel an attack. It was the same policy the Soviets had during the Cold War. This is also the reason why there are 100,000 CPLA troops and 20,000 tanks stationed along the border.
These Chinese military assets play two roles;
1. They repel the massive refugee influx in case of war
2. Invade the country and install a Chinese-friendly government so the Koreans, UNC or the Americans can't unite Korea under a pro-US government.
The strategy for the CPLA is that while the North Koreans are concentrating their firepower against the USFK-UNC forces in the south, the CPLA would overrun the country from the north and reach P'yang in two days- taking out Kim Jeong Il or Kim Jeong Un (whoever is in power at the time) and installing a regime that would negotiate another truce with UNC forces.
Chinese forces would then officially occupy the North to maintain the status quo.


If you don't believe that the Chinese have a design on North Korea, look up the Northeast Project.


China doesn't want a united Korea and neither does the United States. Could you imagine a prosperous united Korea and the trouble they would
cause in the region - not with just the Chinese and the Japanese but with anyone else who so calls crosses them. They would be a law onto themselves - at least at this moment in time they are threatening and sinking each others ships. A united Korea would turn their attention to someone else - the Japanese. Rolling Eyes
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jvalmer



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 2:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A united Korea wouldn't be a threat to anyone. Domestically they can be rabid nationalists and clamp down on foreigners living in Korea, but internationally they know where the power is. They, and every country in the region, need China economically and Korea knows it. That is assuming a united Korea is under control of the south.
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Junior



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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BBC leads with North Korea story


...because people in the UK don't realise that NK shouldn't really be taken seriously.
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mc_jc



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

US foreign policy regarding Korea these days is that the government DOES support unification. Unification would bring a larger market for American goods.
The US and Korea signed protocols in regards to what it would be like if and when the Korean Peninsula was reunified. It has been stipulated that a unified Korean state would still abide by the same accords and treaties they made with the US under the former government of the south. Also, Japan and Korea had signed countless non-aggression treaties that, although they bicker on everything from anime to Dokdo, there would never be open conflict between them- the US holds that treaty together under the tripartite alliance between all three nations.
The assumption that the US doesn't support reunification has been a rumor going back to the pro-democracy days in the 70's and 80's, when pro-North Korean agents infiltrated student unions. Such propaganda was reinforced by the quacky Noh Mu Hyun.
China is the only one who is afraid of reunification. They thought of themselves as the only window for the North Koreans into the outside world. They were able to regulate and control what North Koreans saw of their economic growth. If the peninsula was united, not only are North Koreans exposed to South Korean and American cultural and economic influence, it leaves a local window open for Chinese residents in that region to the growth and development from the other side as well.
According to military intelligence foresight into possible scenarios, if a war were to break out, it would most likely be instigated by the North Koreans, but as the UNC-USFK forces advance from the south, CPLA forces will be advancing from the north to block any advance toward Baekdu Mountain. In the end, you might see the same military standoff we all remember when the Americans and the Soviets advanced on Germany at the end of WWII. However, unlike the Soviets, the Chinese don't abide by the same "gentlemen's code" when provoked or harassed by the other side.
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Junior



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 4:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mc_jc wrote:
but as the UNC-USFK forces advance from the south, CPLA forces will be advancing from the north to block any advance toward Baekdu Mountain. In the end, you might see the same military standoff we all remember...


Relocate the DMZ to the border with China. Nice idea.

You could build a new "truce village" with American soldiers eyeballing Chinese troops instead of North Korean.
That way the US would be safeguarding both Tiawan and Korea from Chinese imperialism.
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mc_jc



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 5:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Relocate the DMZ to the border with China. Nice idea.

You could build a new "truce village" with American soldiers eyeballing Chinese troops instead of North Korean.
That way the US would be safeguarding both Tiawan and Korea from Chinese imperialism.


So you believe a divided Korea is a good idea?


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Chinese imperialism

Don't you mean, "Chinese Democracy"?

The good thing about this scenario is that it will prove to the world that China most likely wants a buffer state more than the US and it is truly China who is hindering Korean unification.
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atomicdeathmonkey



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 11:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What happens when re-unification happens though - it will have to be staged if only from an economic standpoint surely?
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Epik_Teacher



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 9:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No way in hell will Japan or China let Korea reunite in the next couple of decades. It's to their advantage to keep them seperate.
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