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[Seoulio]

In A NOvel by Canadian Science fiction author, Robert J Sawyer There is a parallel world that exists next to ours where Neanderthal Man became the dominant species.

Now of course there are many unque things about this society, but one of the most interesting commentarys on contemporary society is the use of a bionic artificial intelligence surgically grafted into the body.

This implant intelligence acts as a translator of any language, a database of any fact, a GPS locator etc.

Now in this world Crime is unheard of ( part of this is due to the fact that anyone who crime of any kind is sterelized along with anyone who shares 50 percent or more of thier genetic material ( mother, father, brother, sister, and children) But one of the other mani reasons is that the implant acts as a record of any and all events, who has come in contact with you etc.

It is impossible to get away with a crime, so none are committed.

NOW, these records are stored in a high security building. It is IMPOSSIBLE to access these records without the person whose record you are retrieving, and 3 different archive holders. In the event that person is dead or missing there are multiple safeguards that prevent tampering.

In this world the records are secure and Big Brother can not watch on a whim.

Rape, kidnapping murder, all violent crime, even minor crime is non existent.

Given the hell hole that our world has evolved into, if you could be GUARANTEED to be safe, or that anyone who wronged you would be brought to swift and immediate justice, not to mention being assured that they were in fact the one that wronged you, would that be worth it to you at the cost of a very minor level of your personal freedom?

Now again keep in mind that no one actually "moniters" these recordings, they are archived in an off site hard drive and can not be opened or viewed without you, or MULTIPLE legal representatives in the event you are missing. They can not track you etc.

Would it be worth it to you to have your entire life recorded and backed up in an information vault, that no one would access except in the event of your death, to be guaranteed this safety?

[perkxplosion]

yes because i'm innocent your honor.

[NYC_Gal]

I've got nothing to hide, but the people would sure be ugly in that world!

[Seoulio]

when I have had this discussion with people it was almost never about "ive nothing to hide" its about the right to privacy.

My comment was always "at what price is that right?"

You may be a law abiding citizen, it doesnt mean you want the police to have the right to search your house without a warrant.

[RMNC]

So you're saying that I would live a perfect life as long as someone was able to record my perfect life? Sure, why not? I'm not committing any crimes, and I'm not scared by the possibility that someone might have recorded my life at some point. If I was I would be scared of photography, or security cameras.

[Seoulio]

yes thats exactly what I was saying

[Louis VI]

We live in relative utopia compared to the bulk of humanity, past and present, so let's appreciate it for what it is and what we are. Religion and science fiction turn away from the way things are, are the opposite of lovers of fate.

[Senior]

Why did it have to be a neanderthal society?

I don't think this would necessarily end crime.
-What about murder suicide?
-When the perpetrator thinks he can escape prosecution?
-White collar crime.

Why is the world we live in today such a "hell hole"? Sure it isn't that fun for more than half of the world's population, but many of us in the developed world live a better life than could even be imagined a few decades ago. And those people who do live retched lives are being brought up to comfortable levels at an ever accelerating rate.

Of course I would accept your hypothetical situation.

[pangaea]

Interesting scenario. If it meant not looking over my shoulder everytime I walked through a dark parking lot, never having to double check my door locks at night, never seeing another news story about a missing child or a rape victim - I would have to say yes. Of course, that kind of security would have to involve the sacrifice of some personal privacy.

On the flip side, one of my favorite movies is M. Night Shyamalan's The Village. When I first saw it, I heard some people in the theater grumbling about the ending, but I loved it. I thought it raised an interesting question. Would you give up all modern amenities and conveniences to go live in an isolated time capsule of your own making if you thought it would keep your children from ever knowing murder, rape, or physical violence?

It's probably too late to go back. Might as well move forward into a world of crime-stopping implants.

[Seoulio]

[Seoulio]

[NYC_Gal]

I don't mind the police searching as long as they put everything back the way it was before. Seriously, I don't care if people go through my things, just so long as my things remain intact and in their place. I'm talking OCD exact placing. I know when my milk has been moved.

[Louis VI]

[DorkothyParker]

I would be more concerned regarding penalties for small crimes. I've jaywalked once or twice, my friend's foot has been a little heavy driving home late from a neighboring city after a show. People do commit small infractions accidentally and I do not think these need to be life-shattering events.

Besides, my problems in this current world have never been a fear of crime.
Now, you find me a parallel universe where I can have more of that brown fat and eat whatever I want sans weight gain, and I will gladly give Big Brother access to all and any of my information.

PS. If all my data is stored on a chip, can I upload it into a robot body? What about just into a synthetic cyber world? It'd be life after death Caprica style.

(PS. I LOVE dystopian sci-fi!)