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I opened the car door and a cyclist crashed into it...
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pikachun1



Joined: 09 May 2010

PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 8:40 am    Post subject: I opened the car door and a cyclist crashed into it... Reply with quote

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Fishead soup



Joined: 24 Jun 2007
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 9:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's called blood money. Be careful in future. Since no police report was filed i doubt this will come up again.
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Passions



Joined: 31 May 2006

PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 10:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

he apparently held some position at church so I can assume he's honest and b.

Apparently, you haven't attended a Korean church. Laughing Laughing Laughing
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The Gipkik



Joined: 30 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 3:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As a cyclist, I've almost been smacked by a car door too many times to count. Almost always Koreans are very careful when they open the door. They actually look, which is a real surprise in a country that doesn't know what a blind spot check means. Blood money sucks. I was once cycling along the Han river when I clipped another cyclist's handlebar with my own because a third cyclist got too close to me. He lost control and crashed. I went back to check if he was intact. Luckily he had been wearing gloves and long cycling pants, so he was okay, but really shook up. Then his friend comes along. Now they want me to come along to the police station. I waved to them and went on my way. He was screaming after me. I waved again and ignored him.

If he had been injured, I wouldn't have hesitated to take him to the hospital, but otherwise, forget it.
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jvalmer



Joined: 06 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wonder when Korea is going to end this blood money nonsense and update their laws to make it the job of the insurance companies and lawyers?
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Illysook



Joined: 30 Jun 2008

PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 4:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You didn't look before you acted and you doored someone. It's your fault just as if you didn't look before turning or changing lanes and then hit another car. I don't feel sorry for you. Too many of my cycling friends have been hurt or killed by inattentive drivers.
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brento1138



Joined: 17 Nov 2004

PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 4:49 pm    Post subject: Re: I opened the car door and a cyclist crashed into it... Reply with quote

pikachun1 wrote:
he apparently held some position at church so I can assume he's honest


Laughing

You're kidding, right?
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pikachun1



Joined: 09 May 2010

PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 5:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Illysook wrote:
You didn't look before you acted and you doored someone. It's your fault just as if you didn't look before turning or changing lanes and then hit another car. I don't feel sorry for you. Too many of my cycling friends have been hurt or killed by inattentive drivers.


But this person didn't die...If he was seriously hurt, then I would say the reimbursement should fit the injury, but he just fell off his bicycle and immediately went to some cycling meeting with his other friends and now is claiming that he is in pain after several days. That's why I feel so indignant.

Also, the church thing...I keep on hearing bad things about Christians in Korea. Is it really true?
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jvalmer



Joined: 06 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pikachun1 wrote:
Also, the church thing...I keep on hearing bad things about Christians in Korea. Is it really true?


My young poster, just because someone claims to be religious doesn't mean the guy is honest.
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Italy37612



Joined: 25 Jan 2010
Location: Somewhere

PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pikachun1 wrote:

Also, the church thing...I keep on hearing bad things about Christians in Korea. Is it really true?


Yes, I have had many Christian friends come here and are embarrassed to see how their Korean counterparts pervert the religion.
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Oliver



Joined: 19 Apr 2008
Location: Seoul, Korea

PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a pretty bad accident. I think the fact that you paid him money is fair enough. It sounds like it was completely your fault.

Best.

Ollie
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coralreefer_1



Joined: 19 Jan 2009

PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 6:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not exactly sure why money has to be paid. I mean, was a law broken? Who determined that your party was completely at fault? Isn't he just as responsible as you? As a cyclist riding down the street, you also have a responsibility for your own safety. Seeing a parked car in front of me with people in it is an obvious clue that I should not pass within inches of the car for the exact reason as the incident.

Sorry but that is just a crappy situation. It would probably be better to pay the man than have him try to sue and deal with the courts, but seems to me he shares just as much responsibility. If I did have to pay him, I would pay him in 10won loose coins with some bible verse leaflets printed inside.
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madoka



Joined: 27 Mar 2008

PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

coralreefer_1 wrote:
I'm not exactly sure why money has to be paid. I mean, was a law broken? Who determined that your party was completely at fault? Isn't he just as responsible as you? As a cyclist riding down the street, you also have a responsibility for your own safety. Seeing a parked car in front of me with people in it is an obvious clue that I should not pass within inches of the car for the exact reason as the incident.


Well, before the OP deleted his post, he mentioned that it was a tight street. Legally, it was all his fault for not looking before opening the door. I remember as a child, there was an episode of People's Court with this exact same scenerio. Judge Whopner came down hard on the guy who opened his car door without looking.

To answer OP's question, soft tissue damage can take several days to crop up. If this happened to you in the U.S., you'd likely be sued for tens of thousands and take months out of your life to even just settle once lawyers get involved. Count your blessings as you got off easy.
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Illysook



Joined: 30 Jun 2008

PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 10:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As far as the bit about the guy being a Christian and a leader in his church goes, we can hope that the process of making him a leader calls for some vetting of his integrity, but you can't really know. There are good and bad people all over the world. Some of them call themselves Christians. Others call themselves Jews, Pagans, and/or Athiests.

These are, in a sense, just labels. Did you catch any of the flap about Anne Rice quitting Christianity "in the name of Christ?" I got the sense that she wanted to follow Christ but was through with being labeled. Kinda like the old bumper sticker "Lord, save me from your followers!" or Ghandi saying that he liked Jesus, but not the people who called themselves Christians."
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GreenlightmeansGO



Joined: 11 Dec 2006
Location: Daegu

PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 10:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you don't pay the blood money and someone sues you, would it go on your criminal record?
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