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Seoulio
Joined: 02 Jan 2010
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 Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 5:38 pm Post subject: Mosque to open Near Ground Zero |
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38538068/ns/us_news-life/?GT1=43001
Sometimes human ignorance knows no boundries. Its hard to beleive that as intelligent as many people are they still think it was average run of the mill muslims that did the bombings.
They don't think that the KKK speaks for all Christians.
What if the members of the Westboro Baptis Church started bombing soldiers funerals ( they already protest at them) are peopel going to start blaming all Christians.
It's so sickening that they would ban the opening of a relgious institution (in a relgion where its followers are much more devout) because they think the work of a MINISCULE minority of people who just happen to use religion as an excuse for their psychotic actions ( just like the KKK did) reflect the entire religion and the people in that religion.
Thank God the Vote was 9-0 against the boycott.
Common Sense can prevail |
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laguna
Joined: 27 Jun 2010
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| Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 8:13 pm Post subject: Re: Mosque to open Near Ground Zero |
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| Seoulio wrote: |
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38538068/ns/us_news-life/?GT1=43001
Sometimes human ignorance knows no boundries. Its hard to beleive that as intelligent as many people are they still think it was average run of the mill muslims that did the bombings.
They don't think that the KKK speaks for all Christians.
What if the members of the Westboro Baptis Church started bombing soldiers funerals ( they already protest at them) are peopel going to start blaming all Christians.
It's so sickening that they would ban the opening of a relgious institution (in a relgion where its followers are much more devout) because they think the work of a MINISCULE minority of people who just happen to use religion as an excuse for their psychotic actions ( just like the KKK did) reflect the entire religion and the people in that religion.
Thank God the Vote was 9-0 against the boycott.
Common Sense can prevail |
Where is the FSM building?
Seriously though, Islam is responsible, it's spitting in the face of the families of the families.
"haha, we destroyed your buildings, now your beliefs of diversity and tolerance will be used against you!"
Seriously though, Mohammand married a 6 year old and had sex with her when she was 9. The Koran clearly states that all non-muslims must be killed, I can quote multiple places, but my fingers would literally get tired of typing.
This isn't a matter of being religiously tolerant. This is like me raping your daughter, then expecting you to be ok with it because "it's part of my religion" |
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Seoulio
Joined: 02 Jan 2010
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| Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 9:10 pm Post subject: Re: Mosque to open Near Ground Zero |
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| laguna wrote: |
| Seoulio wrote: |
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38538068/ns/us_news-life/?GT1=43001
Sometimes human ignorance knows no boundries. Its hard to beleive that as intelligent as many people are they still think it was average run of the mill muslims that did the bombings.
They don't think that the KKK speaks for all Christians.
What if the members of the Westboro Baptis Church started bombing soldiers funerals ( they already protest at them) are peopel going to start blaming all Christians.
It's so sickening that they would ban the opening of a relgious institution (in a relgion where its followers are much more devout) because they think the work of a MINISCULE minority of people who just happen to use religion as an excuse for their psychotic actions ( just like the KKK did) reflect the entire religion and the people in that religion.
Thank God the Vote was 9-0 against the boycott.
Common Sense can prevail |
Where is the FSM building?
Seriously though, Islam is responsible, it's spitting in the face of the families of the families.
"haha, we destroyed your buildings, now your beliefs of diversity and tolerance will be used against you!"
Seriously though, Mohammand married a 6 year old and had sex with her when she was 9. The Koran clearly states that all non-muslims must be killed, I can quote multiple places, but my fingers would literally get tired of typing.
This isn't a matter of being religiously tolerant. This is like me raping your daughter, then expecting you to be ok with it because "it's part of my religion" |
Islam is NOT responsible, fanatics who misinterpret the teachings of islam are.
I can count as many places in the bible where death or gruesome punishments are mentioned in the old testement.
I have no idea if what you are saying is tru about mohammad marrying a 6 year old, some cutures marry you off when you are born ( or used to) at least he waited til 9 which (in a time where the average life span was 30 years) is not all that bad given the times.
And yet again there are figured in the bible who have done other things that would be considered deplorable.
A mosque is a place of worship. NOw if they allowed an office to be leased by "bombers of large American buildings Inc" then youd have a legitimate gripe.
Peopel do fanatical things. We had a crazy German kill a whole bunch of Jewsih people, how do we feel about the Germans? We had a Bunch of Japanese totally devestate the American Navy, how do we feel about he Japanese?
YOU don't condemn the entire group because sa minorty of the people become power hungry idiots who go around comiting crazy actions.
I also know that the KOran teaches to tolerate those who don't share your beliefs, so it appears the Bible and the KOran have something in common, they both contradict some of thier core beleifs. Its why under educated fanatical idiots can buy into mass hysteria notions and commit such terrible attrocities. |
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balzor
Joined: 14 Feb 2009
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| Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 9:37 pm Post subject: |
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| I would let this one go. This is a no-win situation. |
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NYC_Gal
Joined: 08 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 9:53 pm Post subject: |
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What a waste of valuable real estate.
(I'd say the same if it were a church or synagogue.) |
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ED209
Joined: 17 Oct 2006
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| Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 10:12 pm Post subject: |
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I guess some think there are positive things to this, as it will bring Muslims closer to the site of the attack which could garner more sympathy for the victims of 9/11. Which included Muslims too.
Next I hear the Vatican may buy the Neverland Ranch. |
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bigverne
Joined: 12 May 2004
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| Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 11:08 pm Post subject: |
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| We had a Bunch of Japanese totally devestate the American Navy, how do we feel about he Japanese? |
I don't know, but is there a Japanese cultural centre at Pearl Harbour, or at the site of the Batan death march? I guess the Japanese have a little more tact than that.
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| YOU don't condemn the entire group because sa minorty of the people become power hungry idiots who go around comiting crazy actions. |
No, but you can take a rational look at the ideology that inspired such acts and come to the conclusion that it is not an ideology based on 'tolerance', and though people like Al-Qaeda may not represent standard Muslim teaching, to say that they have 'hijacked' an otherwise 'peaceful religion' is just PC nonsense.
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| I also know that the KOran teaches to tolerate those who don't share your beliefs |
This is, of course, almost the complete opposite of what Islam teaches. |
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Seoulio
Joined: 02 Jan 2010
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| Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 11:56 pm Post subject: |
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And yet it was Christians who historically have tried to wipeout those who didn't share their beliefs ( the inquisitions, silencing of scientists, witch hunts and the Crusades to name a few)
Yep it must have been the Muslim people who trekked across the known world to wipe out the Christians, sorry, I must have gotten that section of my relgious history wrong.
also you should study the Koran more closely. It mentions jihads and other holy wars in the interests of DEFENSE and oppression (much like the people would call for a revolution if the powers that be were unfair)
It does not direct you to seek out people who don't beleive and kill them. |
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 12:45 am Post subject: |
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| I'd have no problem with a mosque being built near there. In fact, I think America needs to get a little more tolerant. |
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Reggie
Joined: 21 Sep 2009
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| Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 1:28 am Post subject: |
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| The mosque is being built approximately a mile from Ground Zero, but the media make it sound like it's being built right across the street. Palin says it's inappropriate for a mosque to be in the neighborhood, but I guess she thinks the dildo shops, strip clubs, and bars in the neighborhood compliment Ground Zero. |
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Reggie
Joined: 21 Sep 2009
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| Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 1:48 am Post subject: |
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Maybe it should go like this:
There should be no mosques in Manhattan due to 9/11 attacks, but churches are okay since Manhattan was purchased from the Native Americans.
There should be no churches in the USA outside of Manhattan in consideration of the Native Americans who experienced genocide at the hands of Christians and had their lands stolen. In the southeast, where black children, women, and men were whipped, raped, murdered and exploited for so many years by Christians and Jews, no churches or synagogues should be allowed. |
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NYC_Gal
Joined: 08 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 2:24 am Post subject: |
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| Reggie wrote: |
| The mosque is being built approximately a mile from Ground Zero, but the media make it sound like it's being built right across the street. Palin says it's inappropriate for a mosque to be in the neighborhood, but I guess she thinks the dildo shops, strip clubs, and bars in the neighborhood compliment Ground Zero. |
Those shops are further uptown.  |
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NYC_Gal
Joined: 08 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 2:26 am Post subject: |
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| Reggie wrote: |
Maybe it should go like this:
There should be no mosques in Manhattan due to 9/11 attacks, but churches are okay since Manhattan was purchased from the Native Americans.
There should be no churches in the USA outside of Manhattan in consideration of the Native Americans who experienced genocide at the hands of Christians and had their lands stolen. In the southeast, where black children, women, and men were whipped, raped, murdered and exploited for so many years by Christians and Jews, no churches or synagogues should be allowed. |
How about we get beyond boogeymen and take responsibility for our actions, and be good people because we WANT to, rather than because some imaginary being told us we had to. |
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manlyboy
Joined: 01 Aug 2004
Location: Darwin, Northern Territory, Australia
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| Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 3:19 am Post subject: |
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| And yet it was Christians who historically have tried to wipeout those who didn't share their beliefs ( the inquisitions, silencing of scientists, witch hunts and the Crusades to name a few) |
Yes, those poor people were brainwashed. Not too disimilar to the brainwashing you probably underwent at your leftist looniversity bin.
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Yep it must have been the Muslim people who trekked across the known world to wipe out the Christians, sorry, I must have gotten that section of my relgious history wrong.
also you should study the Koran more closely. It mentions jihads and other holy wars in the interests of DEFENSE and oppression (much like the people would call for a revolution if the powers that be were unfair)
It does not direct you to seek out people who don't beleive and kill them. |
I strongly urge you to take a look at the history of Eastern Orthodox Christianity, which endured hundreds of years of persecution under the hegemony of Muslim invaders.
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| How about we get beyond boogeymen and take responsibility for our actions, and be good people because we WANT to, rather than because some imaginary being told us we had to. |
That is logically incoherent. If all that exists is human will then there is no such phenomenon as morality, there only exists moral interpretations of phenomena. And why should yours have more value than anyone elses? If we're not here for a reason, then it's all about appetite, baby. And then you've got hell on earth. |
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ED209
Joined: 17 Oct 2006
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| Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 3:47 am Post subject: |
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| manlyboy wrote: |
| NYC_Gal wrote: |
| How about we get beyond boogeymen and take responsibility for our actions, and be good people because we WANT to, rather than because some imaginary being told us we had to. |
That is logically incoherent. If all that exists is human will then there is no such phenomenon as morality, there only exists moral interpretations of phenomena. And why should yours have more value than anyone elses? If we're not here for a reason, then it's all about appetite, baby. And then you've got hell on earth. |
Are the Mods sleeping? Yay! Faith Fight!
Anyway, what you responded with is exactly the situation we are in. A world without objective morality. Perhaps the imaginary being didn't say anything and we simply chose the best morality for our situation. |
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