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UK CRC: Apostille?
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Carl_00



Joined: 18 May 2009

PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 1:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cheers...the documents are easy, finding a job is proving difficult at the moment though Evil or Very Mad.
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dizzyl



Joined: 24 Jul 2010
Location: UK

PostPosted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 10:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know I am being far too optimistic but I got my degree in South Africa... I don't suppose it will be apostilled despite being authenticated by a Magistrates' Legal Adviser? I am guessing they won't as it's from another country.
Funny thing is the South African embassy will only do it if it's going to be used in connection with getting a job in South Africa... how does that work??!!
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fl4mers



Joined: 26 Jan 2010

PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 5:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

@dizzyl - I think that if you have your original degree on hand, you should be able to get a copy of it authenticated in the UK, which would then make it eligible for Apostille. As far as I know, as long as they have been authenticated by a registered signatory in the UK, documents are usually eligible for a UK Apostille. You should therefore be able to get a copy of the degree Apostilled, despite it being from S.A.

@Carl_00 - Don't give up just yet...finding a job isn't as fast a process as it used to be, but if you have the time and the patience you should be able to find something to suit you Smile
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dizzyl



Joined: 24 Jul 2010
Location: UK

PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 8:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks fl4mers... that saves me a lot of stress!! At present getting transcripts out of my university is proving even harder than getting blood from stone... But that is very good advice thanks again!
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Waluigi



Joined: 09 Apr 2009

PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 9:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

fl4mers wrote:

If, however, you got a criminal check from your local police station (the �10 one) you will need to get it notarised by a solicitor, if the FCO or immigration is to accept it. :


sorry but that is simply not true.

I went through the process a few months ago in the UK. I got a PNC national computer check from my local authority (10 pounds), then I went in person to the legalisation office in Milton Keynes to get the apostille. I did not at any point have to go near a solicitor. this is accepted by Korean immigration unless the rules have changed in the past 3-4 months (I know they have changed on degrees, but I don't think they have on this).

The point of the apostille is to confirm to foreign governments or organisations that the document is, in fact, a legal document from the UK. Clearly it is bureaucratic nonsense, but hey ho... it's needed Rolling Eyes
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David Gerrington



Joined: 20 Jun 2008

PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 9:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dizzyl wrote:
Thanks fl4mers... that saves me a lot of stress!! At present getting transcripts out of my university is proving even harder than getting blood from stone... But that is very good advice thanks again!


Be careful with this, mine took me 6 weeks to get hold of them. Kept phoning them and was told "they are in the system and will be sent next week". In the end just drove up and demanded I had them on the spot. Took 5 minutes to print them for me.
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Forest



Joined: 09 Aug 2010

PostPosted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

last year i got the basic disclosure for 10 pounds but because my parents have recently moved i do not have any documents to prove that i live there. I could change my address with my bank but it could take over a month before i have a bank statement with the new address on it.

so I�m thinking about getting the disclosure scotland one but i don�t know whether to get the basic one or the one which specifically allows you to work with children etc.

which one did you guys get people get?
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Forest



Joined: 09 Aug 2010

PostPosted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 11:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

waluigi is right. if you have the 10 pound one you don't have to take it to a solicitors. in fact i went to one and they told me not to bother. i took it up to m.k and they put the apostile on it. the signature that is already on there is fine.

if anyone knows the answer to getting a basic check or a more advanced check please let me know Smile

im not sure if any of this is going to change
but i do know that the current system will be okay at least until the 1st of january
Laughing
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Gwangjuboy



Joined: 08 Jul 2003
Location: England

PostPosted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 10:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am still struggling to understand why degree certificates should be subject to this nonsense considering the fact that transcripts have to be sealed and signed! Surely that is evidence enough that the degree is bona fide!
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adam01



Joined: 29 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 1:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My CRC from Disclosure Scotland isn't signed/stamped. If I get it signed off by a solicitor with my degree, is that equivalent and acceptable, or do I need to hound Disclosure Scotland for a new CRC?
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pixie_fi



Joined: 02 Aug 2010

PostPosted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 2:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've just sent my documents off to the FCO- for my degree certificate, I got a photocopy signed+stamped by a solicitor. When I applied for my Disclosure, I told them that I needed it signed+stamped and they did this for free. I didn't understand how it worked either but someone who recently went through the process said that's how she did it. I'm not sure, but you could probably take your Disclosure to a solicitor who could sign+stamp it. I had originally planned to do that before I knew that Disclosure could do it for me.
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pixie_fi



Joined: 02 Aug 2010

PostPosted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 2:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also, when I asked the solicitor how much it would cost to get 2 documents signed, the price was the same for doing 1. So it might not be any extra charge to get your disclosure signed along with your degree.
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Forest



Joined: 09 Aug 2010

PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 11:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i too have just received an unsigned or stamped check from disclosure scotland.

so what options do i have?

send it back to them and have it signed and stamped

or just take it to a solicitors and get it signed there

which one do you suggest?

by the way how did you get it signed and stamped? i applied for mine online and i didn't see any options to have this done or in my case not done.
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pablofiasco



Joined: 28 Feb 2006

PostPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 11:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok..this is my idea of what is involved in the E2 visa application....please feel free to correct any details or add extra info...just to double check there are 2 areas of documentation which are of concern here background check and education check

Backround check
This is *not* a CRB check (as this can only be done by an employer) but either

a disclosure
http://www.disclosurescotland.co.uk/
stamped and signed by their signatory(?)
or
a PNC national computer check
http://www.met.police.uk/links/index.htm
notarised by a solicitor(?)

Either of these *must* then be apostilled by the FCO in Milton Keynes
http://www.fco.gov.uk/en/about-us/what-we-do/services-we-deliver/legal-services/legalisation/
or
http://www.apostille.org.uk/ (if abroad)<- any good?


Education Checks
Copy of your degree certificate
certified by a solicitor
apostilled by FCO
or
just the original degree(?)

3 sets of sealed transcripts
request from university admin.

*please* correct me if needed!

HOW CAN I DO THIS ALL FROM ABROAD?

I'm currently in VN, have had degree apostilled a year ago, but my CRB check is older than six months.

can I get my background check done by the embassy in Vietnam or will I have to do/send paperwork to/from the UK?

can I have it notarized here in Hanoi by British Embassy?

is an interview now required for an E2 visa? can that also be done here at the Korean Embassy

will I have to bite the bullet and head back home for backround check / apostille / interview?

your thoughts are much appreciated

I understand this E2 Visa legwork is needed but there should be a lot more clarity on the acceptance of the notarization / signature / stamps of which documents (degree? backround check?) and by who (disclosure scotland?)

just thankful it shouldnt be more than 40 days.......looking at other threads it seems far mor taxing for this visa.
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Samapi



Joined: 07 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Sat Sep 04, 2010 2:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Waluigi wrote:
fl4mers wrote:

If, however, you got a criminal check from your local police station (the �10 one) you will need to get it notarised by a solicitor, if the FCO or immigration is to accept it. :


sorry but that is simply not true.

I went through the process a few months ago in the UK. I got a PNC national computer check from my local authority (10 pounds), then I went in person to the legalisation office in Milton Keynes to get the apostille. I did not at any point have to go near a solicitor. this is accepted by Korean immigration unless the rules have changed in the past 3-4 months (I know they have changed on degrees, but I don't think they have on this).

The point of the apostille is to confirm to foreign governments or organisations that the document is, in fact, a legal document from the UK. Clearly it is bureaucratic nonsense, but hey ho... it's needed Rolling Eyes



TRUE^

Basic disclosure: Needs notarizing before Apostilling.

Subject Access (the �10 one): Only needs Apostilling.
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