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mises
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 Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 9:11 am Post subject: Harper has got to go |
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Between the bizarre census problems (why dig in on that?) to the airplane deal to the summit in Toronto (and billion spent) this guy is a poor PM.
http://www.cbc.ca/politics/story/2010/08/04/ekos-poll.html
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The federal Conservatives' lead over the Liberal Party appears to have evaporated, with both parties virtually tied at the same level of support, a new EKOS poll suggests.
The ruling Tories had enjoyed a notable lead over the Liberals in recent weeks, but the latest poll, released exclusively to CBC, found that 29.7 per cent of respondents would vote for the Tories if an election were held today, compared with 28.5 per cent for the Liberals.
Support for the Conservatives had not dropped below 30 per cent since late 2006.
Support for the Liberals has gone up by three percentage points since the previous week, while the Tories have seen a 3.5 percentage point drop.
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The Canadian economy is trending down now with the housing bubble popping:
http://www.greaterfool.ca/2010/08/04/ooops-4/
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* The Calgary Real Estate Board reported that sales of single-family homes in July plunged 42% from the same month last year. Condo sales were down 44%, and this was the third month in a row of cascading deals.
* In Victoria a single-family home dropped in price by $35,000 last month. �A chill swept through Greater Victoria�s summer real estate market,� said the Times Colonist, in reporting a 43.5% crash in sales.
* Meanwhile in the Big Smoke, sales down 34% while listings collapse.
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When will the next election be? Will Iggy be the next PM? |
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mithridates
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| Sure, let's give Iggy a term. The Conservatives seem a bit stale and have recently been bleating about being stricter on crime while crime continues to fall. Plus a lot of the other reasons you've been mentioning lately. I'm not especially excited about any parties but I think I'll go Liberal this time. |
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sharkey
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| Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 9:17 pm Post subject: |
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| 2 words for everybody here: Jack Layton. |
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Bucky
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The thing that drives me crazy is how he always says stuff like "Canadians don't want this / Canadians have no desire for this"... It's as if he's speaking on behalf of all of us, which is definitely not true. And for Canadians to hear that, it's like he's telling us our opinions, which feels really degrading.
I've never voted Conservative and don't think I will. Next time, I'll probably go Liberal as well (even though I'm usually an NDP supporter). |
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mises
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| Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 9:29 pm Post subject: |
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| Bucky wrote: |
| The thing that drives me crazy is how he always says stuff like "Canadians don't want this / Canadians have no desire for this"... It's as if he's speaking on behalf of all of us, which is definitely not true. |
Every single Canadian politician in the country does that. It is very obnoxious. |
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BoholDiver
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I have to go with the only PM in recent history who doesn't take a crap on the head of the west. Harper.
He has his flaws but I am worried about letting Iggy have power. If he gets a minority gov't, we won't see a difference anyways. We won't see if he is truly good or bad without giving him a majority. |
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recessiontime
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| Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 3:02 am Post subject: |
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| My family voted for Layton before and then he didn't deliver what he promised. That was before I knew democracy doesn't work. |
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mises
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| Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 7:36 am Post subject: |
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| I have to go with the only PM in recent history who doesn't take a crap on the head of the west. Harper. |
Yes, that's true. He isn't a good PM though. He's fiscally irresponsible and sticks his finger in the eye of non-Cons over the most inane stuff (census). WTF is with the census blowup? The Federal Liberals did a very good job during the last economic crisis and I have more trust in them to make the tough decisions in the next one. |
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mises
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mises
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| Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 7:47 am Post subject: |
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| mithridates wrote: |
| Sure, let's give Iggy a term. The Conservatives seem a bit stale and have recently been bleating about being stricter on crime while crime continues to fall. Plus a lot of the other reasons you've been mentioning lately. I'm not especially excited about any parties but I think I'll go Liberal this time. |
Crime is down over the past decade but still way up from the 60's. The tough on crime stuff Harper is going on about is misguided. End the war on drugs. It can be done now.
I too am not impressed with any of the parties. Iggy is not a good choice. Nor was Paul Martin (Bob Rae would not be better either). There has to be some good leadership leftover in the party somewhere?
Oh, and Harper cut the GST. That's not sensible. Cut income taxes for middle and below. The GST is a good tax, in so far as that is possible. |
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Kimbop
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Stagnation, I'm afraid.
Michael Ignatieff will never be Canada's PM, thank alla.
Harper's here to stay, unfortunately, until well into 2011.
(I, too, don't like Harper. He's not right-wing enough.)
The absolute best leader in recent times is Stephane Dion! I hail him as the *true* master of the Liberal party, and campaign for his reinstatement as leader! |
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Wildbore
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| Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 2:23 am Post subject: Re: Harper has got to go |
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| mises wrote: |
| Between the bizarre census problems (why dig in on that?) to the airplane deal to the summit in Toronto (and billion spent) this guy is a poor PM. |
What census problems. Statistics Canada is another bloated liberal stacked agency. Most of the info from the long census can be provided by other sources, private companies. No reason to FORCE people to fill it out. Typical liberal thinking, lets throw people in jail for not filling out a redundant piece of paper.
The billion spent on a summit. Get your head out of your rear, that's what summits cost these days. The auditer general's report should clear the government of all these unfounded LIBERAL accusations of mis-spending.
The airplane deal??? Well, about time we have a government that doesn't spit on our military, like Liberals did for decades. Also, it should create thousands of jobs.
If the Liberals were in power, we would be in deficit for 2 decades with their plans to waste billions on national daycare, national drug coverage, national this-and-that.... I wouldn't trust Ignatiaff to manage a lemonade stand, much less a country.
I give Harper tons of credit, he's reversed a lot of incompetent Liberal policies and he has cut taxes. But he still has lots of work to do to reverse the damage the last Liberal government did. The 2 billion dollar gun registry boomdoggle, for example, should be axed later this year. That will be a relief to many farmers, hunters, who face jail time for doing nothing wrong. Next target, hopefully wasteful CBC.
Then there's good old tax and spend boy Dalton McGuinty....... the nightmare won't be over until someone axes him. |
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Wildbore
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| Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 2:34 am Post subject: Re: Harper has got to go |
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The Canadian economy is trending down now with the housing bubble popping: |
Get a clue already.
The housing slowdown is directly related to the the new massive house tax (Harmonized sales tax) that the LIBERAL governments in Ontario and BC imposed.
So no, I don't see Iggy being PM anytime soon. Harper has managed the economy well, despite incompetence on the part of many Liberal Premiers. |
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mises
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| Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 7:26 am Post subject: Re: Harper has got to go |
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The Canadian economy is trending down now with the housing bubble popping: |
Get a clue already.
The housing slowdown is directly related to the the new massive house tax (Harmonized sales tax) that the LIBERAL governments in Ontario and BC imposed.
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In Alberta? Prices down in Edmonton 3% last month. That's 36% annualized. The Calgary market is tanking too, even while oil is @ 82$/barrel.
Why do you think prices doubled in the past 7 years? |
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BoholDiver
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| Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 4:23 pm Post subject: Re: Harper has got to go |
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The prices in Alberta are way beyond affordability. When that happens, prices level themselves out. Hopefully they'll level out soon before they cause a crash. Same thing with Victoria, Ottawa, Vancouver.
Other cities are doing fine, such as Halifax, Saskatoon, regina, Winnipeg, etc.
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The Canadian economy is trending down now with the housing bubble popping: |
Get a clue already.
The housing slowdown is directly related to the the new massive house tax (Harmonized sales tax) that the LIBERAL governments in Ontario and BC imposed.
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In Alberta? Prices down in Edmonton 3% last month. That's 36% annualized. The Calgary market is tanking too, even while oil is @ 82$/barrel.
Why do you think prices doubled in the past 7 years? |
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