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metalhead
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 Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 5:54 pm Post subject: Discrimination In Asia |
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I'm currently in Suzhou (China) - which is a beautiful city, but ridiculous in the discrimination sense.
All the nightclubs here give foreigners free beer and whiskey. Add to that the local women that like foreigners in the clubs and it's nuts. Total discrimination (against local men). I work from 9am to 11am (one class each day, Mon-Fri, the Chinese co-teacher does most of the work) and get paid 9000RMB a month.
The Chinese have a saying actually, "In the sky there is heaven, on earth there is Hangzhou and Suzhou'".
Call me crazy but I'm starting to believe it. |
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BoholDiver
Joined: 03 Oct 2009
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| Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 6:27 pm Post subject: Re: Discrimination In Asia |
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In some ways, our situation is the same in Korea.
I am damn sure I make more than my Korean co-workers. A lot more, actually, and I work less hours.
| metalhead wrote: |
I'm currently in Suzhou (China) - which is a beautiful city, but ridiculous in the discrimination sense.
All the nightclubs here give foreigners free beer and whiskey. Add to that the local women that like foreigners in the clubs and it's nuts. Total discrimination (against local men). I work from 9am to 11am (one class each day, Mon-Fri, the Chinese co-teacher does most of the work) and get paid 9000RMB a month.
The Chinese have a saying actually, "In the sky there is heaven, on earth there is Hangzhou and Suzhou'".
Call me crazy but I'm starting to believe it. |
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metalhead
Joined: 18 May 2010
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| Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 7:05 pm Post subject: |
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| Yeah it is, but go to a good city in China like Suzhou, Nanjing, Chengdu etc and your quality of life is a lot better than in Korea (as a teacher at least). If, however, you go to a 'no-name' city in China, expect to be shopping for a rope lickety-split-like to hang yourself in no time. |
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The Gipkik
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| Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 7:48 pm Post subject: |
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| metalhead wrote: |
| Yeah it is, but go to a good city in China like Suzhou, Nanjing, Chengdu etc and your quality of life is a lot better than in Korea (as a teacher at least). If, however, you go to a 'no-name' city in China, expect to be shopping for a rope lickety-split-like to hang yourself in no time. |
Don't underestimate the advantages of going to a "no-name" city in terms of becoming a better teacher. I taught for a year in a small Chinese city, worked extremely hard with a lot of challenging students, turned the whole curriculum upside down, organized the classes and students and offered consistent and firm discipline. It made me a much better teacher, creatively and in terms of classroom management and a general understanding of teaching methodologies. I always look for challenging positions that will mold my craft. It was and is my apprenticeship. These are the positions that I've searched for and done in countries all across Asia.
I've heard so many foreigners brag about their great schools, great students and few hours. This is not good teaching experience in my opinion. Without challenges and hardships, it encourages complacency, creative stagnation, and narrows and blunts the mind. Not to mention hours. Working less than 15 hours a week means part-time teaching, so one year of employment does not equal a year's worth of experience.
Great schools in terms of overachieving students, a generous budget, a relaxed and flexible contract do not make a great teacher. Not even close. |
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metalhead
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| Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 7:59 pm Post subject: |
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| Yes Gipkik, I hear you and understand, but after close to ten years of teaching in Asia, is this not my reward? Pleasant fruits through bad butter and all that. |
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The Gipkik
Joined: 30 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 8:04 pm Post subject: |
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| metalhead wrote: |
| Yes Gipkik, I hear you and understand, but after close to ten years of teaching in Asia, is this not my reward? Pleasant fruits through bad butter and all that. |
Absolutely, metalhead. I got carried away! 
But it is really hard to turn away from comfortable and convenient conditions. My job right now is both. Everything is too easy. |
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Oreovictim
Joined: 23 Aug 2006
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| Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 8:33 pm Post subject: Re: Discrimination In Asia |
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| metalhead wrote: |
All the nightclubs here give foreigners free beer and whiskey. |
Are you being serious? They give free drinks, even to the men? I've gotten that in America, but it wasn't nightclubs - this was at casinos, where they obviously want you liquored up.
I just got back from my trip to Thailand, and I'm back in "good old" Korea. I think after I finish my fourth year, I'll probably pick a new country. China, Taiwan, Thailand, etc. I've got some researching to do.
I'm glad you're liking China, though. |
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young_clinton
Joined: 09 Sep 2009
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| Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 9:02 pm Post subject: |
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| There is blatant age discrimination in asia that is for sure. |
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Junior
Joined: 18 Nov 2005
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| Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 9:48 pm Post subject: Re: Discrimination In Asia |
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| BoholDiver wrote: |
| In some ways, our situation is the same in Korea. |
Yeah. Nightclubs all over Korea invite in foreigners and give free whisky to foreign men.
The whole society is slanted to discriminate against Korean men.
Any Korean men seen out with Korean women are publicly harrassed and ridiculed and they have no recourse to law. Foreigner guys always win in cases against Korean men. The Korean police and newspapers are totally on our side. Its a paradise. |
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D.D.
Joined: 29 May 2008
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| ya its horrible having two 25 year old gfs in Shanghai, the way they treat us is just horrible, one even tramps around my place in her underwear. I can't take it anymore. Korea was so nice being ignored and the racism was so fun I will have to run back to korea. |
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nfld_chingu
Joined: 29 Jun 2009
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| Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 1:43 am Post subject: |
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| Is it true that there are more men than women in China? |
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BoholDiver
Joined: 03 Oct 2009
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| Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 1:57 am Post subject: Re: Discrimination In Asia |
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I was referring to work.
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| BoholDiver wrote: |
| In some ways, our situation is the same in Korea. |
Yeah. Nightclubs all over Korea invite in foreigners and give free whisky to foreign men.
The whole society is slanted to discriminate against Korean men.
Any Korean men seen out with Korean women are publicly harrassed and ridiculed and they have no recourse to law. Foreigner guys always win in cases against Korean men. The Korean police and newspapers are totally on our side. Its a paradise. |
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The Gipkik
Joined: 30 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 3:05 am Post subject: |
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| Is it true that there are more men than women in China? |
You're kidding, right? In some parts of China, the ratio of men to women condemns many men to bachelorhood for life. Remember there is a pattern in developing countries: the majority of attractive and ambitious women gravitate to big cities, so it isn't as easy to see, but travel to some rural areas for a real eye opener. Especially in the West. |
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nfld_chingu
Joined: 29 Jun 2009
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| Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 3:37 am Post subject: |
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That's what I had heard, but when I was in Beijing, I didn't notice any difference between #s of men and women ...
Well maybe foreigners should stop stealing the women in China??  |
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NovaKart
Joined: 18 Nov 2009
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| Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 6:35 am Post subject: |
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| I've had the owner of clubs come in and give me and other foreigners a round of free drinks before. Pretty cool. This was in a city where foreigners were really rare. The music was AWFUL though. The most repetitive techno beat over and over again. The DJ kept talking over it but it was such terrible music it didn't matter. Of course the restroom smelled like vomit too and had photos taken of people in the toilet doing random things like having sex or polishing a gun, not of this place but something from the internet. |
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