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defaultusername
Joined: 15 Apr 2009
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Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2010 5:04 am Post subject: Form 8802 HELP!!! |
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Yeah, I've searched the threads before but found nothing substantial.
I do not understand this form at all and the instructions that come along with it are pretty much worthless.
Can someone help with box by box instructions? (I have no clues about Taxpayer ID #'s, Appointee Information, etc.) I'm sure the whole community would benefit by this.
Also, must I have the 6166 certificate upon arrival? Or will the IRS mail the form to Korea?
Any help is greatly appreciated. |
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manimal
Joined: 02 May 2010
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Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 7:44 am Post subject: |
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Okay, continued on down my search list for "8802." This thread answered the questions I had typed below before going on.
http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=185469&highlight=8802
I'd like to know about this too. From what my recruiter has told me, I can turn the form in later (I start next week, so I'm going to have to have it mailed). My plan was to have the folks mail it to me.
In the EPIK contract, it states that taxes won't be taken out if the form is given to the employer before the first paycheck...so I'm hoping it won't be a problem if it doesn't get to me sooner than that.
My biggest question right now is on line seven--years of residence for which I am requesting certification. According to the instructions, I can't request years that haven't had returns filed--so 2009 is the latest we can get. So, is certification of US residence sufficient for the public school and Korean tax service when I am submitting regarding employment for 2010/2011? |
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isitts
Joined: 25 Dec 2008 Location: Korea
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Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 5:48 am Post subject: |
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I think the instructions for 8802 explain how to go about requesting for years that have not been completed yet (2010 is not finished yet).
In that link you posted above, Naturegirl explains that exception on page 3 or 4. |
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isitts
Joined: 25 Dec 2008 Location: Korea
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Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 5:51 am Post subject: Re: Form 8802 HELP!!! |
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| defaultusername wrote: |
Yeah, I've searched the threads before but found nothing substantial.
I do not understand this form at all and the instructions that come along with it are pretty much worthless.
Can someone help with box by box instructions? (I have no clues about Taxpayer ID #'s, Appointee Information, etc.) I'm sure the whole community would benefit by this.
Also, must I have the 6166 certificate upon arrival? Or will the IRS mail the form to Korea?
Any help is greatly appreciated. |
IRS mails it to Korea. Check out the link above posted by manimal. |
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CSlinguist
Joined: 11 May 2010
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Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 9:58 am Post subject: |
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I had alot of trouble with this form too. If you just call the IRS number on the website they will go through it with you step by step. Warning though, I called around 7pm and was on hold for like 30 minutes cuz they transfered me to the wrong department -_-
But your tax id number is just your SSN and you don't have an appointee cuz you're filling the form out yourself. Also if you are gonna pay online make sure you do that before sending out the form because you have to put a confirmation number on line 2 (Once you do the online payment it gives you two numbers, neither of which are called a confirmation number and you can put either number on line 2... that took me forever to figure out) |
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eljuero
Joined: 11 Aug 2009
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Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 9:38 pm Post subject: minor addition |
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I just called the IRS on Friday. FYI, they are just processing the forms received at the end of June.....patience is needed I guess.
A lot of schools, mine included, will give you the benefit of the doubt and withhold taxes if you're new to Korea......you might ask and then file later for the forms. |
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isitts
Joined: 25 Dec 2008 Location: Korea
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Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 10:00 pm Post subject: |
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| If they gave you the benefit of the doubt, then they would not withhold taxes because they would presume you'll get the residency certificate and only be taxable in the US. My school did not withhold taxes. |
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isitts
Joined: 25 Dec 2008 Location: Korea
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Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 10:02 pm Post subject: |
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| Unless you want to use a loophole and not get taxed in either country, I wouldn't file for the residency certificate because the tax rate here is less. It's better to owe taxes in Korea than the US. If you get the certificate, then what you earn here is taxable in the US (because presumably, you cannot file the 2555 and still get the residency certificate). |
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eljuero
Joined: 11 Aug 2009
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Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 10:06 pm Post subject: |
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| isitts wrote: |
| If they gave you the benefit of the doubt, then they would not withhold taxes because they would presume you'll get the residency certificate and only be taxable in the US. My school did not withhold taxes. |
Honestly, I'm not sure if you understood my post or I'm understanding yours but in any case - my school did give me the benefit of the doubt and has withheld taxes in presumption that I'm getting the certificate.
Others have posted that their school did similarly.
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isitts
Joined: 25 Dec 2008 Location: Korea
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Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 10:08 pm Post subject: |
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| If you get the certificate it means you're not taxable in Korea. So, they'll have to give you that money back. |
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eljuero
Joined: 11 Aug 2009
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Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 10:10 pm Post subject: |
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| isitts wrote: |
| If you get the certificate it means you're not taxable in Korea. So, they'll have to give you that money back. |
They don't have to give it back as they never took it in the first place.... |
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