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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul
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 Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 5:15 pm Post subject: Refused Passport Renewal (CDN) |
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I headed to the Canadian embassy today to renew my passport (it expires in about 6 months). I had all of the forms filled out, supplemental ID (Driver's, Birth, SIN), and photos done from their assigned studio.
When asked about a guarantor, I said I didn't have one. They asked me numerous questions about different aspects of my life, and then refused to give me one.
Simply put, they told me to go find a guarantor.
Just a heads-up for anyone looking to renew their passport.
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The Gipkik
Joined: 30 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 5:18 pm Post subject: |
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| Is this something new? Who can be your guarantor? |
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mayorgc
Joined: 19 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 5:20 pm Post subject: |
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I think in the past, the gaurantor had to be a doctor/lawyer, but now, in Canada, I think the guarantor can be anybody who holds a valid CDN passport.
not 100% sure |
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 5:30 pm Post subject: |
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| The Gipkik wrote: |
| Is this something new? Who can be your guarantor? |
They said that it's not 'new', but that they were told by the passport office to be more strict and to edit their website so that the offer for guarantor is taken down. They don't want people thinking it is an easy option.
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must be included in ONE (1) of the following groups:
� dentist, medical doctor � notary public
� judge, magistrate, police officer � practising lawyer, notary
� mayor � signing officer of a bank |
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must have known you personally for at least TWO (2) years*;To know an applicant personally means that the guarantor is able to confirm aspects of the applicant�s personal
attributes such as name, approximate age, place of birth, physical description and some personal history such as
occupation and place of residence. |
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IlIlNine
Joined: 15 Jun 2005
Location: Gunpo, Gyonggi, SoKo
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| Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 5:49 pm Post subject: Re: Refused Passport Renewal (CDN) |
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| Captain Corea wrote: |
I headed to the Canadian embassy today to renew my passport (it expires in about 6 months). I had all of the forms filled out, supplemental ID (Driver's, Birth, SIN), and photos done from their assigned studio.
When asked about a guarantor, I said I didn't have one. They asked me numerous questions about different aspects of my life, and then refused to give me one.
Simply put, they told me to go find a guarantor.
Just a heads-up for anyone looking to renew their passport.
-CC |
This has been the case for a long time.
If you have an official guarantor (Canadian doctor, dentist, notary, etc), it's easy -- but it's not easy to find a qualified Canadian guarantor in Korea.
If you have no guarantor, there's another process to follow where you have to find several people to vouch for you. The applicable form is called: PPTC 132 "Statutory Declaration in Lieu of Guarantor". Get the form from the embassy, find a few people you know to vouch for you, take the appropriate oath that you're not a terrorist, and you're done!
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nathanrutledge
Joined: 01 May 2008
Location: Marakesh
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| Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 6:00 pm Post subject: |
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CC -
Clear this up for me, I'm not understanding this. You are a Canadian citizen and they are denying you a passport???
How do they expect you to travel home without one?
EDIT -
Nevermind, found the passport website, makes sense now. Seems ridiculous considering you have all the papers and a current, valid passport, but i figured it out...
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diver
Joined: 16 Jun 2003
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| Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 6:03 pm Post subject: |
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| I guess they dont need the money anymore. I just paid the higher rate and had the embassy sign off on me. |
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diver
Joined: 16 Jun 2003
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| Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 6:07 pm Post subject: |
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| I guess they dont need the money anymore. I just paid the higher rate and had the embassy sign off on me. |
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 6:11 pm Post subject: |
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| IlIlNine wrote: |
| If you have no guarantor, there's another process to follow where you have to find several people to vouch for you. The applicable form is called: PPTC 132 "Statutory Declaration in Lieu of Guarantor". Get the form from the embassy, find a few people you know to vouch for you, take the appropriate oath that you're not a terrorist, and you're done! |
Yup. Did that 4 1/2 years ago, np. This time, they wouldn't give it to me. They gave me some sheet in korean that explains to a potential guarantor what it's all about.
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CC -
Clear this up for me, I'm not understanding this. You are a Canadian citizen and they are denying you a passport???
How do they expect you to travel home without one? |
That was my question to them. |
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Sooke
Joined: 12 Jan 2004
Location: korea
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| Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 6:20 pm Post subject: |
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I did it with using the "in lieu of guarantor" form just last december, but I have had two friends who went in in the last month and were told that the 'in lieu of guarantor' form can no longer be used in Korea if you are renewing your second passport here.
I've recently been going through the paperwork to get my family home, and lemme tell you, the embassy is playing hardball. I am assuming they are under orders to tighten things up at every level.
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Junior
Joined: 18 Nov 2005
Location: the eye
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| Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 6:21 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="Captain Corea"]
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must be included in ONE (1) of the following groups:
� dentist, medical doctor � notary public
� judge, magistrate, police officer � practising lawyer, notary
� mayor � signing officer of a bank |
why not ask your dentist? You've probably kept the same dentist for at least 2 years, I would guess. He will also be able to vouch for your adress.
Alternatively, just ask your doctor. i've been going to the same 2 hospitals in seoul for years. You must have at least needed a medical check once a year? |
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 6:26 pm Post subject: |
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I've only been to two dentists in Korea - once each.
I try to avoid doctors whenever possible here. There are a few clinics that I've been to, but none ofthem could answer the questions linked above.
I have a couple of options that I'm trying to figure out - but this is ridiculous. Ask for more ID - I get it. Ask for more references - I get that too.
But not everyone hangs out with the Mayor of Seoul. |
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ennoncha
Joined: 02 Aug 2009
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| Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 6:33 pm Post subject: |
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| I applied for a new passport at the Embassy a few weeks ago and it was such a terrible experience. 12 pages and 175,000 won later, I might be able to get a new passport ... |
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littlelisa
Joined: 12 Jun 2007
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 6:43 pm Post subject: |
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Thank goodness I found someone who would be my guarantor. I renewed my passport a couple of months ago.
I talked to the lady at the embassy who was taking my application and mentioned how much of a pain it was to find a guarantor here and she said everyone says it's hard but in the end most come back with someone who signed as a guarantor. She also said probably by the next time I renew, passport requirements would probably be changed to anyone with a valid Canadian passport. |
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diver
Joined: 16 Jun 2003
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| Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 7:30 pm Post subject: |
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| Have you ttied contacting your MP? |
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