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Immigration idiocy: New E2 visa Regs.
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wormholes101



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does this mean that the "original, sealed transcripts" requirement is now scrapped?
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crescent



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 08, 2010 2:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wormholes101 wrote:
Does this mean that the "original, sealed transcripts" requirement is now scrapped?

Yes.
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is so delicious



Joined: 28 Apr 2009

PostPosted: Sun Aug 08, 2010 4:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I could have sworn a friend who just went through this said that immigration told him that as long as he applied for a new visa within THREE MONTHS of leaving Korea/finishing his former visa, he didn't need a new criminal background check. Anyone else hear anything about this?

Also, how do these new rules affect those C4 visas you need for winter camp?? Same rules apply?
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jweeke



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 08, 2010 4:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

do you mean before three months, or within three months?
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is so delicious



Joined: 28 Apr 2009

PostPosted: Sun Aug 08, 2010 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jweeke wrote:
do you mean before three months, or within three months?


No, I mean if you finish your contract and apply for a new visa BEFORE three months is up, you won't need a new CRC.

Sounds too good/sensible to be true, though.
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jweeke



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 08, 2010 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hmmmm. definitely too good to be true.
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kangnamdragun



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 10:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Forgive me if this has been answered, but could someone explain to me, for Americans, when one renews a visa, how is the teacher supposed to get an FBI background check and get it apostilated in the US if the teacher is living in Korea? Can this be done at the US embassy here?
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Epik_Teacher



Joined: 28 Apr 2010

PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 11:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kangnamdragun wrote:
Forgive me if this has been answered, but could someone explain to me, for Americans, when one renews a visa, how is the teacher supposed to get an FBI background check and get it apostilated in the US if the teacher is living in Korea? Can this be done at the US embassy here?


What about diplomas? Can you go to the Consulate in Fukuoka and get them apostilled or will you have to mail it to Chicago or the nearest K Consulate to your home address? I wish these questions could clarified! Going to the HiKorea portal page is an exercise in total futility!
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crescent



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here are clarifications. The original form I was given was brief, and printed poorly. Below is the information given verbally at immigration. Since I do the hiring at my school, i needed the details:

As of September 1, 2010:

1. University transcripts are no longer necessary. Korean Immigration will no longer accept un-certified original degrees.

To OBTAIN, RENEW, or EXTEND an E2, we must now:
- certify our original degrees at the Korean Consulate in our home country OR
- certify it through an Apostille service in our home country OR
- certify it at our home country's consulate in Korea OR
- certify it through the Korean Council for University Education (http://cs.kcue.or.kr)

2. Regarding University Degrees:
- If a teacher leaves Korea for more than 3 months, their degree must be re-certified
- If a teacher leaves Korea for less than 3 months, their degree need not be re-certified.

As of January 1, 2011:

1. Only NATIONAL police checks will be accepted. Municipal, Regional, County, State, or Provincial checks will not be accepted. Police checks must be certified at the Korean consulate in our home country.
- when renewing or extending an E2; if a teacher leaves Korea for less than 3 months, a new police check is not needed.
- when renewing or extending an E2; if a teacher leaves Korea for MORE THAN 3 months, a new police check will be needed

2. If a teacher obtained their current E2 Visa BEFORE July 15, 2010, and wishes to change workplaces or extend their visa, they must submit a NATIONAL police check, which has been certified by the Korean consulate in their home country.
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eIn07912



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 10:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kangnamdragun wrote:
Forgive me if this has been answered, but could someone explain to me, for Americans, when one renews a visa, how is the teacher supposed to get an FBI background check and get it apostilated in the US if the teacher is living in Korea? Can this be done at the US embassy here?


I got an FBI check done last year. It requires you get fingerprinted by a police officer specially trained in finger printing. I got mine done in Seoul, so Korean cops will work. Made need translating help though.

You can then send off your finger prints and valid forms and money order to the FBI records department. All this information is on their site. They will then send it back to you in Korea. It takes at least 10 weeks if I remember correctly. But, the background check can't be older than 6 months or Korean Immigration won't accept it. Working out the timing can be a b*tch.

Once they send it to you in Korea, DON'T OPEN the ENVELOPE. You then just have to turn around and send it to the nearest Korean consulate to your home address listed on the FBI check. They will open it and certify it and then send it back to Korea.

By the time it's all said and done, that finger print page has traveled across the Pacific 4 times (if it all goes according to plan.) The whole process should take 3 or 4 months. It's a huge pain. It's excessively difficult and it's what happens when a government bureaucracy goes overboard.
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alwaysbeclosing100



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 12:26 am    Post subject: re Reply with quote

eIn07912 wrote:
Once they send it to you in Korea, DON'T OPEN the ENVELOPE. You then just have to turn around and send it to the nearest Korean consulate to your home address listed on the FBI check. They will open it and certify it and then send it back to Korea.


if you are renewing in korea i dont think you need to have the national CRC certified by the consulate. the korean consulates are not going to certify CRCs for all 20,000 current teachers in korea. they will probably certify it if you are coming for the 1st time and are having an interview at the consulate. k immi probably just wants a national CRC with an apostille......
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eIn07912



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 12:43 am    Post subject: Re: re Reply with quote

alwaysbeclosing100 wrote:
eIn07912 wrote:
Once they send it to you in Korea, DON'T OPEN the ENVELOPE. You then just have to turn around and send it to the nearest Korean consulate to your home address listed on the FBI check. They will open it and certify it and then send it back to Korea.


if you are renewing in korea i dont think you need to have the national CRC certified by the consulate. the korean consulates are not going to certify CRCs for all 20,000 current teachers in korea. they will probably certify it if you are coming for the 1st time and are having an interview at the consulate. k immi probably just wants a national CRC with an apostille......


As of January 1, 2011:

1. Only NATIONAL police checks will be accepted. Municipal, Regional, County, State, or Provincial checks will not be accepted. Police checks must be certified at the Korean consulate in our home country.
- when renewing or extending an E2; if a teacher leaves Korea for less than 3 months, a new police check is not needed.
- when renewing or extending an E2; if a teacher leaves Korea for MORE THAN 3 months, a new police check will be needed

2. If a teacher obtained their current E2 Visa BEFORE July 15, 2010, and wishes to change workplaces or extend their visa, they must submit a NATIONAL police check, which has been certified by the Korean consulate in their home country.
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kangnamdragun



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 5:55 am    Post subject: Re: re Reply with quote

eIn07912 wrote:


2. If a teacher obtained their current E2 Visa BEFORE July 15, 2010, and wishes to change workplaces or extend their visa, they must submit a NATIONAL police check, which has been certified by the Korean consulate in their home country.


This is what is upsetting me. How do they expect us to really do this if we are in Korea?
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Young FRANKenstein



Joined: 02 Oct 2006
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 6:04 am    Post subject: Re: re Reply with quote

kangnamdragun wrote:
How do they expect us to really do this if we are in Korea?

By using the mail system or couriers.
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tiger fancini



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 6:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

crescent wrote:
Here are clarifications. The original form I was given was brief, and printed poorly. Below is the information given verbally at immigration. Since I do the hiring at my school, i needed the details:

As of September 1, 2010:

1. University transcripts are no longer necessary. Korean Immigration will no longer accept un-certified original degrees.

To OBTAIN, RENEW, or EXTEND an E2, we must now:
- certify our original degrees at the Korean Consulate in our home country OR
- certify it through an Apostille service in our home country OR
- certify it at our home country's consulate in Korea OR
- certify it through the Korean Council for University Education (http://cs.kcue.or.kr)

2. Regarding University Degrees:
- If a teacher leaves Korea for more than 3 months, their degree must be re-certified
- If a teacher leaves Korea for less than 3 months, their degree need not be re-certified.

As of January 1, 2011:

1. Only NATIONAL police checks will be accepted. Municipal, Regional, County, State, or Provincial checks will not be accepted. Police checks must be certified at the Korean consulate in our home country.
- when renewing or extending an E2; if a teacher leaves Korea for less than 3 months, a new police check is not needed.
- when renewing or extending an E2; if a teacher leaves Korea for MORE THAN 3 months, a new police check will be needed

2. If a teacher obtained their current E2 Visa BEFORE July 15, 2010, and wishes to change workplaces or extend their visa, they must submit a NATIONAL police check, which has been certified by the Korean consulate in their home country.


I hope I've got this right. I'm going to go to immigration before the end of December to renew my E2 for another year at the same school.

I've got to get my degree certified. That's not a problem because hopefully I can do it here at my country's consulate.

Not too sure about the police check. Do I even need to get one?
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