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AustinOfTheOzarks
Joined: 09 Nov 2009
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Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 5:28 pm Post subject: starting a hagwon |
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I don't really know where else to post this.....
How much money does it take to start a hagwon and get it off the ground? Mostly interested in Gwangju. |
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ttompatz

Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 5:52 pm Post subject: Re: starting a hagwon |
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AustinOfTheOzarks wrote: |
I don't really know where else to post this.....
How much money does it take to start a hagwon and get it off the ground? Mostly interested in Gwangju. |
You need a minimum of 50 million just to get your visa (D8 investors visa) as a foreign investor in a business in Korea.
IF you are married to a Korean (F2) or hold an F4 then the costs will not be based on your visa status.
Talk to the GU-office and education office in your city to find out what THEIR minimum requirements for establishment of a hakwon are (how many classrooms, sizes, other requirements.
Then you need to deal with them for the licensing costs.
You didn't say which Gwangju so I assumed you meant the one in the south and not the one in Gyeonggi-do.
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nathanrutledge
Joined: 01 May 2008 Location: Marakesh
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Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 6:15 pm Post subject: Re: starting a hagwon |
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ttompatz wrote: |
You need a minimum of 50 million just to get your visa (D8 investors visa) as a foreign investor in a business in Korea.
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I think that this has changed/is changing to 100 million won. Read something about that in the paper within the past few months. |
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huffdaddy
Joined: 25 Nov 2005
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Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 6:34 pm Post subject: Re: starting a hagwon |
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nathanrutledge wrote: |
ttompatz wrote: |
You need a minimum of 50 million just to get your visa (D8 investors visa) as a foreign investor in a business in Korea.
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I think that this has changed/is changing to 100 million won. Read something about that in the paper within the past few months. |
http://www.prlog.org/10792321-korea-tightens-investment-visa-rules-for-foreigners.html |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Location: Retired
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Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 6:35 pm Post subject: Re: starting a hagwon |
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AustinOfTheOzarks wrote: |
I don't really know where else to post this.....
How much money does it take to start a hagwon and get it off the ground? Mostly interested in Gwangju. |
To really get it off the ground you need something to distinguish yourself from the other hakwons. And you need to devote yourself to it seven days a week (at least in the beginning). There's a LOT of work if you want your hakwon to succeed...if it's an independent one.
It's not just as easy as opening it up and watching the money roll in. Not today anyway.
Nowadays many hakwons are closing their doors or cutting costs as the recession hits. Even some big chains are losing schools.
And you can't do this on a E-2 visa...if you are on another visa then it may be possible. |
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nathanrutledge
Joined: 01 May 2008 Location: Marakesh
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Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 7:17 pm Post subject: Re: starting a hagwon |
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Thanks!
I have a few friends who started a restaurant a few years back and had to get the D-8 visa. First off, it is a real pain to get. Lots of hoops to jump through. For example, they needed to get some tax document from the tax people. The tax people said they needed to get a city permit first. The people at the city said they needed the visa first. They spent a few weeks going in circles on that one.
Once they finally got the visa, it was only good for a few months. They had to show a certain level of income and that they were employing locals and buying local goods, etc. Once they survived the 2 month mark, they had another check at 6 months, then a year, THEN the visa was good for 3 years I believe.
It's a full time job just complying with the law! |
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AustinOfTheOzarks
Joined: 09 Nov 2009
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Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 7:25 pm Post subject: |
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My wife is a Korean, so the hagwon would probably be in her name.....less red tape. I just don't know what it would take to lease a space, get a bus, payroll, etc. My wife thinks it would take something like 500 million to a billion won. I think she's way off.
And yes, I was talking about Gwangju in the south. |
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BoholDiver
Joined: 03 Oct 2009 Location: Canada
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Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 11:17 pm Post subject: |
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I would estimate 150 million to do it right.
Any decent building will most likely run you 50 million in key money.
Desks, blackboards, etc, will probably be another 5-10 million. I have no idea how much those things cost.
A van is 30 mill or up if you buy new, or you can risk buying used. Also, you can hire a free-lancer driver who has his own van, but you will have to pay him for gas, mileage, insurance, etc. He'll ding you for everything, but there is less of a start-up fee.
Also, to not be just like many of these fly-by-night places, you will probably need a slush fund of 20 mill + for your first few months. It might take a while to become profitable.
You might be better off buying out an existing hagwon.
AustinOfTheOzarks wrote: |
My wife is a Korean, so the hagwon would probably be in her name.....less red tape. I just don't know what it would take to lease a space, get a bus, payroll, etc. My wife thinks it would take something like 500 million to a billion won. I think she's way off.
And yes, I was talking about Gwangju in the south. |
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 11:33 pm Post subject: |
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With the way hagwons come and go in Korea, I would assume it's somewhat like the restaurant business in the States wherein you can probably buy a lot of the classroom stuff you would need in fine secondhand condition, thus letting else pay the absurd markup on brand new furniture. |
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T-J

Joined: 10 Oct 2008 Location: Seoul EunpyungGu Yeonsinnae
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Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 1:11 am Post subject: |
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AustinOfTheOzarks wrote: |
My wife is a Korean, so the hagwon would probably be in her name.....less red tape. I just don't know what it would take to lease a space, get a bus, payroll, etc. My wife thinks it would take something like 500 million to a billion won. I think she's way off.
And yes, I was talking about Gwangju in the south. |
You're asking on the wrong board. Stop by over here
I've stopped typing out long detailed responses with actual information in them on these forums due to posts being deleted. Not criticizing these forums or how it is run, just telling it how it is. |
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PatrickGHBusan
Joined: 24 Jun 2008 Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -
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Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 4:53 am Post subject: |
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TJ is your best bet if you want factual advice on what it takes to start and run a hakwon.
My advice is:
Have a business plan BEFORE you do anything else. This plan should include start up costs, estimated monthly expenses, estimated monthy income and some solid market research.
You want to research areas in depth before moving forward. I former co-worker of mine (she is Korean) opened a Hakwon in Busan a few years ago. She had prepared for a solid year before going forward with it and still struggled financially for the first 6 months while working 7-days a week.
Now she is doing very well but wants to move her school to a different part of Busan. She has been looking at places for over 10 months.
Running a hakwon will also be demanding. You will need to deal with parents, students, staff (both Korean and Foreign), competition....
Find some professional advice! |
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Epik_Teacher
Joined: 28 Apr 2010
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Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 6:24 pm Post subject: |
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A Korean American friend of mine (who is married to a Korean) started a hakwan in 1997, he's still going and he's doing OK. But he hates it! He has to juggle "parents who demand their geniuses become fluent in 5 weeks," teachers, students, Korean public officials ("who always want a cut"), etc... Basically as he put it, "You have to kiss everybody's ass to stay in business." I think he's going to stay open for a couple more years and then sell out lock, stock and barrel. |
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bcjinseoul
Joined: 13 Jan 2010 Location: Seoul, Korea
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Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 7:10 pm Post subject: |
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I know a guy who's about to start a hogwon in Taiwan. From what I've heard, it's way easier and cheaper down there; BUT keep in mind the English Fever there isn't like what it is in Korea...if anything, more like Japan. There are less hogwons and a lot less people seemed interested, and more of the general population seems fluent in English. |
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wooden nickels
Joined: 23 May 2010
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Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 1:28 am Post subject: Re: starting a hagwon |
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AustinOfTheOzarks wrote: |
I don't really know where else to post this.....
How much money does it take to start a hagwon and get it off the ground? Mostly interested in Gwangju. |
How much money do you already have put aside for the initial investment? |
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supernick
Joined: 24 Jan 2003 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 2:20 am Post subject: |
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My wife is a Korean, so the hagwon would probably be in her name.....less red tape. I just don't know what it would take to lease a space, get a bus, payroll, etc. My wife thinks it would take something like 500 million to a billion won. I think she's way off. |
yes, your wife is way off. If she has no idea, then why would you put it under your wife's name? If it is your plan, your money, and your venture, then I suggest you ask your wife to help you put things in order.
I for one would never put my business in my wife's name. Never. |
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