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yaeyae



Joined: 13 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 12:01 am    Post subject: fbi check from outside US - US citizens please reply Reply with quote

what is the best/fastest way to get it done while outside the US?
i did the livescan before for a state check, so i think my prints are on file.

if it takes too long, would a state check be ok for US citizens seeking work at a hagwon? when i got it done before I was told the letter couldn't be apostilled since it is in fact issued by the state.


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passport220



Joined: 14 Jun 2006
Location: Gyeongsangbuk-do province

PostPosted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 5:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have not done it yet and I can not answer all of your questions, but I am in the same spot as you.

I noticed on the FBI application form to have the fingerprint check done, there is a spot to have the results shipped via FedEx. It seems it would be possible to create a FedEx account and then have the results sent to you overseas with the shipping costs charged to your FedEx account. All of the steps you need to apply for the check can be found on the FBI web page. Notice the stuff about the apostille proceedure.

Link to FBI web page:
http://www.fbi.gov/hq/cjisd/faqs.html
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djsmnc



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 3:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had it done in an emergency. Printed the forms, went to a community center with a Korean friend to get the prints taken, went to the post office and sent them (along with a polite letter requesting expediancy), waited a couple weeks, got aggravated and sweaty, they were sent to my parents' house as I had asked, then received them just in time about 3 weeks after first sending them.

Isn't this one of those threads that's been done to death, though?
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passport220



Joined: 14 Jun 2006
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

djsmnc wrote:
I had it done in an emergency. Printed the forms, went to a community center with a Korean friend to get the prints taken, went to the post office and sent them (along with a polite letter requesting expediancy), waited a couple weeks, got aggravated and sweaty, they were sent to my parents' house as I had asked, then received them just in time about 3 weeks after first sending them.

Isn't this one of those threads that's been done to death, though?
How did you deal with the apostille proceedure?
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djsmnc



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 6:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

passport220 wrote:
djsmnc wrote:
I had it done in an emergency. Printed the forms, went to a community center with a Korean friend to get the prints taken, went to the post office and sent them (along with a polite letter requesting expediancy), waited a couple weeks, got aggravated and sweaty, they were sent to my parents' house as I had asked, then received them just in time about 3 weeks after first sending them.

Isn't this one of those threads that's been done to death, though?
How did you deal with the apostille proceedure?


I then took it to the US Embassy and had it apostilled for (I believe) around $30 USD.
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passport220



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 7:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you for the helpful replies!
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nstick13



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 12:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You don't get it apostilled at the US Embassy. Instead, you swear an affidavit, which immigration accepts in place of the apostille.

I've been told you can make an appointment for that, and it shouldn't take too long.
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djsmnc



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 12:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nstick13 wrote:
You don't get it apostilled at the US Embassy. Instead, you swear an affidavit, which immigration accepts in place of the apostille.

I've been told you can make an appointment for that, and it shouldn't take too long.


That's right....though I do believe they charge around the amount of what I mentioned for that. Could be wrong, but bottom line is that it can be done!
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 2:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

djsmnc wrote:
I had it done in an emergency. Printed the forms, went to a community center with a Korean friend to get the prints taken, went to the post office and sent them (along with a polite letter requesting expediancy), waited a couple weeks, got aggravated and sweaty, they were sent to my parents' house as I had asked, then received them just in time about 3 weeks after first sending them.


http://www.fbi.gov/hq/cjisd/pdf/fpcardb.pdf

did you use the link above to print out the forms?
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djsmnc



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 3:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tonyvu wrote:
djsmnc wrote:
I had it done in an emergency. Printed the forms, went to a community center with a Korean friend to get the prints taken, went to the post office and sent them (along with a polite letter requesting expediancy), waited a couple weeks, got aggravated and sweaty, they were sent to my parents' house as I had asked, then received them just in time about 3 weeks after first sending them.


http://www.fbi.gov/hq/cjisd/pdf/fpcardb.pdf

did you use the link above to print out the forms?


Yessir
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Epik_Teacher



Joined: 28 Apr 2010

PostPosted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tonyvu wrote:
djsmnc wrote:
I had it done in an emergency. Printed the forms, went to a community center with a Korean friend to get the prints taken, went to the post office and sent them (along with a polite letter requesting expediancy), waited a couple weeks, got aggravated and sweaty, they were sent to my parents' house as I had asked, then received them just in time about 3 weeks after first sending them.


http://www.fbi.gov/hq/cjisd/pdf/fpcardb.pdf

did you use the link above to print out the forms?


Let me second this post! Yesterday, I went to the central police station in the small city I live in. I told them why I was there and that I needed fingerprints. I didn't see THIS link until later. Anyway, the cop (CSI) fumbled around more than an hour finding the right form. He wasn't sure which one to use. Finally, I went back and scoured the Fibbie webpage and found that link for the fingerprint form. Either print it out or load it to a thumb drive and take it with you. It will save you LOTS of time!

The 3 forms you will need are the completed application form, the fingerprint form itself and the credit card payment form (cost is $18.00).

Here is a link to a checklist to make sure you have gone thru the complete process. It would be quite aggravating (to say the least) that you go thru this process. Then your letter comes back and you find out you didn't have the complete information and have to do it all over........because you didn't sign the form or left out an innocuous bit of info. Remember, it's government and they are very ANAL about every mote and tittle of paperwork!

http://www.fbi.gov/hq/cjisd/forms/checklist.pdf
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passport220



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 5:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nstick13 wrote:
You don't get it apostilled at the US Embassy. Instead, you swear an affidavit, which immigration accepts in place of the apostille.

I've been told you can make an appointment for that, and it shouldn't take too long.
Is that still acceptable under the newest rules? It seems I read in another thread that an affidavit from a US Embassy will no longer be good.

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Snowkr



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 4:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My employer told me that under the new regulations beginning Jan. 1, Americans would have to return home for the FBI check.

I've been told that the process takes between 12 and 16 weeks in the U.S. I'm not really sure how many American teachers are going to working here after the first of the year...
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northway



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 5:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Snowkr wrote:
My employer told me that under the new regulations beginning Jan. 1, Americans would have to return home for the FBI check.

I've been told that the process takes between 12 and 16 weeks in the U.S. I'm not really sure how many American teachers are going to working here after the first of the year...


I'm pretty sure this information is erroneous on a few levels. For one, there's no way they're going to invalidate a visa they've already granted you. I just had my visa extended through February, they're not going to say I have to go home during that visa after granting me the visa extension. Secondly, there's no reason you have to go home to get it done, as you can simply send them the fingerprints from Korea and have it sent here.

That said, if you get the background check done now and you're contract is finishing in February (as mine is), I'm guessing you'll have a lot more options in terms of jobs available.
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Snowkr



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 15, 2010 11:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hope you're right. It does seem a bit ridiculous that a contracted U.S. teacher would be forced to leave Korea for 3 months over this new stipulation.

I am leaving anyway though so fortunately, regardless of which way this goes, I won't be affected. However, I think I'm going to apply for a FBI background check in about 6 months just for the sake of having one. On the chance that I do decide to come back to Korea, I'd like to be prepared.

Americans returning to the U.S. might be wise to do the same if there is ANY chance at all that they would like to apply for an E-2 to work in Korea ever again!
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