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Woman Kicked Off Flight After Accusing Pilot of Drinking
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Do you think there should be consequences for being wrong in this case?
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Louis VI



Joined: 05 Jul 2010
Location: In my Kingdom

PostPosted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 4:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Captain Corea wrote:
What she did was fine. She simply posed a question, and it was answered. There was no reason to remove her form the plane if she was simply sitting in her seat.

Are you drunk Captain Corea? Or are you just crazy?
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Adam Carolla



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 5:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Obviously there need to be consequences for questioning the pilot's professionalism, otherwise you're encouraging every nutjob in the country to question their pilots, flight attendants, gate attendants, etc. for whatever half-baked reason they can think of, as long as they do it politely.

Personally, I'd rather not have my pilot flying angrily because he's pissed off at some passenger essentially accusing him of endangering the lives of hundreds of people on the plane. But that's just me.
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bacasper



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 7:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Louis VI wrote:
Captain Corea wrote:
What she did was fine. She simply posed a question, and it was answered. There was no reason to remove her form the plane if she was simply sitting in her seat.

Are you drunk Captain Corea? Or are you just crazy?

Captain, should you fly in an aircraft if you thought the pilot was drunk?

This is my advice to everyone: You should NOT fly in an aircraft if you think the pilot is drunk. Does anyone actually disagree with that?
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Harpeau



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 7:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it were me in charge, I would have given the woman the choice: either apologise to the captain, or get off of the plane.
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Adam Carolla



Joined: 26 Feb 2010

PostPosted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 10:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bacasper wrote:
Louis VI wrote:
Captain Corea wrote:
What she did was fine. She simply posed a question, and it was answered. There was no reason to remove her form the plane if she was simply sitting in her seat.

Are you drunk Captain Corea? Or are you just crazy?

Captain, should you fly in an aircraft if you thought the pilot was drunk?

This is my advice to everyone: You should NOT fly in an aircraft if you think the pilot is drunk. Does anyone actually disagree with that?
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How about this: if you're the type of person who believes the members of the flight crew, the co-pilot, the airport staff, and the airline don't have safeguards in place that make it statistically almost impossible for a drunk pilot to actually reach the flight deck and fly the plane, well, I would say you probably are better off just not flying.
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Leon



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 11:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hope that they put her on the next flight, maybe upgraded her to first class. I think what they did was reasonable, but if the pilot also smelled like liquor it probably was reasonable to report it. I wonder why he smelled like that, maybe someone spilled it on him, or the passenger had an active imagination.
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Theme



Joined: 06 Jun 2009
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 11:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Adam Carolla wrote:

How about this: if you're the type of person who believes the members of the flight crew, the co-pilot, the airport staff, and the airline don't have safeguards in place that make it statistically almost impossible for a drunk pilot to actually reach the flight deck and fly the plane, well, I would say you probably are better off just not flying.



Well put.
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bacasper



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 8:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Adam Carolla wrote:
bacasper wrote:
Louis VI wrote:
Captain Corea wrote:
What she did was fine. She simply posed a question, and it was answered. There was no reason to remove her form the plane if she was simply sitting in her seat.

Are you drunk Captain Corea? Or are you just crazy?

Captain, should you fly in an aircraft if you thought the pilot was drunk?

This is my advice to everyone: You should NOT fly in an aircraft if you think the pilot is drunk. Does anyone actually disagree with that?
\

How about this: if you're the type of person who believes the members of the flight crew, the co-pilot, the airport staff, and the airline don't have safeguards in place that make it statistically almost impossible for a drunk pilot to actually reach the flight deck and fly the plane, well, I would say you probably are better off just not flying.

True, paranoid psychotics ought not fly unmedicated.
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mises



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 9:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I smelled booze on the pilots breath I'd mention it. I'd also be happy to get kicked off. There have been times in the past where pilots have been caught drinking on the job. It is not impossible.
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bacasper



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 9:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mises wrote:
If I smelled booze on the pilots breath I'd mention it. I'd also be happy to get kicked off.

You wouldn't take yourself off? If one is kicked off, does the airline refund or replace your ticket? What if you remove yourself? That might influence one's decision.
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mises



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 9:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bacasper wrote:
mises wrote:
If I smelled booze on the pilots breath I'd mention it. I'd also be happy to get kicked off.

You wouldn't take yourself off? If one is kicked off, does the airline refund or replace your ticket? What if you remove yourself? That might influence one's decision.


I assume that once you're on the plane you're on the plane unless kicked off.
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bacasper



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 10:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mises wrote:
bacasper wrote:
mises wrote:
If I smelled booze on the pilots breath I'd mention it. I'd also be happy to get kicked off.

You wouldn't take yourself off? If one is kicked off, does the airline refund or replace your ticket? What if you remove yourself? That might influence one's decision.


I assume that once you're on the plane you're on the plane unless kicked off.

As long as the door's open, you can get off (by which I mean deplane. Wink )
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Adam Carolla



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 6:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mises wrote:
If I smelled booze on the pilots breath I'd mention it. I'd also be happy to get kicked off. There have been times in the past where pilots have been caught drinking on the job. It is not impossible.


But you realize that what you're essentially doing is saying: Look, flight crew, co-pilots, gate attendants, etc. This whiff of what may have been Listerine for all I know that I just caught while passing the pilot's vicinity, which may not even have emanated from the pilot himself, well, I'm just going to assume:

a) My olfactory powers are better than people who are actually in constant contact with the pilot, or

b) Other people can smell the booze on the pilot's breath and apparently they really have no concern for their own lives, unlike me.

Essentially, if you don't trust the system in place, you shouldn't be flying.
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mises



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 6:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Adam Carolla wrote:
mises wrote:
If I smelled booze on the pilots breath I'd mention it. I'd also be happy to get kicked off. There have been times in the past where pilots have been caught drinking on the job. It is not impossible.


But you realize that what you're essentially doing is saying: Look, flight crew, co-pilots, gate attendants, etc. This whiff of what may have been Listerine for all I know that I just caught while passing the pilot's vicinity, which may not even have emanated from the pilot himself, well, I'm just going to assume:

a) My olfactory powers are better than people who are actually in constant contact with the pilot, or

b) Other people can smell the booze on the pilot's breath and apparently they really have no concern for their own lives, unlike me.

Essentially, if you don't trust the system in place, you shouldn't be flying.


Sure, I'll swim around the world.
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Adam Carolla



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 6:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mises wrote:
Adam Carolla wrote:
mises wrote:
If I smelled booze on the pilots breath I'd mention it. I'd also be happy to get kicked off. There have been times in the past where pilots have been caught drinking on the job. It is not impossible.


But you realize that what you're essentially doing is saying: Look, flight crew, co-pilots, gate attendants, etc. This whiff of what may have been Listerine for all I know that I just caught while passing the pilot's vicinity, which may not even have emanated from the pilot himself, well, I'm just going to assume:

a) My olfactory powers are better than people who are actually in constant contact with the pilot, or

b) Other people can smell the booze on the pilot's breath and apparently they really have no concern for their own lives, unlike me.

Essentially, if you don't trust the system in place, you shouldn't be flying.


Sure, I'll swim around the world.


Statistically, you'd have to fly something like every day for 10,000 years before it became probable for you to be in an airplane accident. That's over 3 million flights. When a person feels, for whatever reason, that the particular flight they are on is in danger (before it even taxis), that person can and should be viewed as excessively paranoid.
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