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movybuf



Joined: 01 Jan 2007
Location: Mokdong

PostPosted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 7:28 pm    Post subject: New Laptop and Windows 7 Questions Reply with quote

I have a multi-tiered question, so I hope I can organize my thoughts properly. So, here goes.

I just got a new Toshiba Laptop. I noticed that I didn't come with any back-up CDs or anything. Not even a Windows re-install disk. Then I noticed a a thing that allows you to create your own backup CDs. I guess Toshiba didn't want to spend the extra 100 won to include two CDs with the computer. So, I made the back-up CDs. Do those CDs include a backup of Windows 7? What about a product key? Don't I need one of those if I need to re-install Windows?

Also, I noticed that this came with Windows 7 Premium 32bit. I was surprised, because I naturally thought it would come with the 64bit version. I **cough** obtained the Windows 7 64 bit CD and I'm wondering if it would be a good idea to upgrade. I know I would have to do a complete clean install which would wipe out everything on my computer. If I did that would I have all the necessary drivers to return the computer to the condition it is in now? I'm curious because I recently clean installed Windows XP on my old desktop computer and I had to run another disk to get all the drivers for the video card, sound card and graphics accelerator. without running that extra CD full of drivers, the computer looked really different. I don't have any other CDs for this computer, except for the ones I made today, but those would be for the Windows 7 32bit. Right?

Also, would I really see any benefit to running my computer with the 64bit windows? My computer has the Intel Pentium T4400 and 2GB Ram.

I hope this makes sense. And I hope one of you with technology skills can help me out. Keep in mind that I am not a computer expert, but I pretty much know what I am doing, but my computer is completely in Korean so, I need my wife to help me translate some of the commands.

Thanks.
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blade



Joined: 30 Jun 2007

PostPosted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 8:16 pm    Post subject: Re: New Laptop and Windows 7 Questions Reply with quote

movybuf wrote:
I have a multi-tiered question, so I hope I can organize my thoughts properly. So, here goes.

I just got a new Toshiba Laptop. I noticed that I didn't come with any back-up CDs or anything. Not even a Windows re-install disk. Then I noticed a a thing that allows you to create your own backup CDs. I guess Toshiba didn't want to spend the extra 100 won to include two CDs with the computer. So, I made the back-up CDs. Do those CDs include a backup of Windows 7? What about a product key? Don't I need one of those if I need to re-install Windows?


This is very common with laptops these days and you can easily create a start up disk using the option in the start menu. Click start then programs then look for a Toshiiba menu where you should find an option to create a system restore disk.

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Also, I noticed that this came with Windows 7 Premium 32bit. I was surprised, because I naturally thought it would come with the 64bit version. I **cough** obtained the Windows 7 64 bit CD and I'm wondering if it would be a good idea to upgrade.

Well the thing with illegal copies of windows is that you will probably end up getting annoying messenger telling you that you have installed a non genuine copy of windows all the time but other than that everything should still work fine. Personally, I'd install windows 7 64 as an upgrade and you should be still be able to keep your original 32 windows in a separate partition. The reason why I suggest you do this is because you many like to upgrade your systems bios or use any proprietary hardware on your laptop.
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blade



Joined: 30 Jun 2007

PostPosted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 8:21 pm    Post subject: Re: New Laptop and Windows 7 Questions Reply with quote

movybuf wrote:
What about a product key? Don't I need one of those if I need to re-install Windows?

Turn your laptop upside down to find this!
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sheriffadam



Joined: 10 May 2010
Location: Busan

PostPosted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

is your avatar Dave Chapelle? been wanting to ask for ages!

can't remember the characters name though Sad
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movybuf



Joined: 01 Jan 2007
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 9:31 pm    Post subject: Re: New Laptop and Windows 7 Questions Reply with quote

blade wrote:
Well the thing with illegal copies of windows is that you will probably end up getting annoying messenger telling you that you have installed a non genuine copy of windows all the time but other than that everything should still work fine. Personally, I'd install windows 7 64 as an upgrade and you should be still be able to keep your original 32 windows in a separate partition. The reason why I suggest you do this is because you many like to upgrade your systems bios or use any proprietary hardware on your laptop.


Blade - thanks for the help. How do I install two operating systems? I'm not sure how to make a partition in my hard drive? If it requires a lot of work, it may be difficult with having my OS all in Korean. If I have them both on my computer, how does the computer know which one to start up with? Does it ask me when I turn it on?

sheriffadam wrote:
is your avatar Dave Chapelle? been wanting to ask for ages!

can't remember the characters name though

Yes, that's Chapelle as Tyrone Biggums.
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blade



Joined: 30 Jun 2007

PostPosted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 10:20 pm    Post subject: Re: New Laptop and Windows 7 Questions Reply with quote

movybuf wrote:

Blade - thanks for the help. How do I install two operating systems? I'm not sure how to make a partition in my hard drive? If it requires a lot of work, it may be difficult with having my OS all in Korean. If I have them both on my computer, how does the computer know which one to start up with? Does it ask me when I turn it on?

Installing 7 64 is a little more complicated than I thought so I'll have to have a look and see if I can find out exactly how to do it.
Where did you buy your laptop? In somewhere like homeplus or himart? Maybe you could consider returning it and going to Yongsan and seeing if you can get one with English windows 7 64 already installed?
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movybuf



Joined: 01 Jan 2007
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 12:46 am    Post subject: Re: New Laptop and Windows 7 Questions Reply with quote

blade wrote:

Installing 7 64 is a little more complicated than I thought so I'll have to have a look and see if I can find out exactly how to do it.
Where did you buy your laptop? In somewhere like homeplus or himart? Maybe you could consider returning it and going to Yongsan and seeing if you can get one with English windows 7 64 already installed?


What about this. In theory I could do a clean install of the Windows 7 64bit and check it out. Then if it doesn't work properly, I could use the backup CDs I made to do another clean install back to the 32bit. Would that work? Do you know if the backup CDs I created contain everything, including the Windows OS?

And yes, I did get the computer at Homeplus, because we got a discount and no interest split on my wife's credit card.
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blade



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 1:21 am    Post subject: Re: New Laptop and Windows 7 Questions Reply with quote

movybuf wrote:
blade wrote:

Installing 7 64 is a little more complicated than I thought so I'll have to have a look and see if I can find out exactly how to do it.
Where did you buy your laptop? In somewhere like homeplus or himart? Maybe you could consider returning it and going to Yongsan and seeing if you can get one with English windows 7 64 already installed?


What about this. In theory I could do a clean install of the Windows 7 64bit and check it out. Then if it doesn't work properly, I could use the backup CDs I made to do another clean install back to the 32bit. Would that work? Do you know if the backup CDs I created contain everything, including the Windows OS?

And yes, I did get the computer at Homeplus, because we got a discount and no interest split on my wife's credit card.

Ya, that should do the trick.
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8 years down



Joined: 16 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 8:36 am    Post subject: Re: New Laptop and Windows 7 Questions Reply with quote

Not sure how/where you bought it but if it's some smaller computer place churning out lots of systems then it's likely your Windows 7 is a OEM version. This basically means that dealer is allowed to use 1 cd key over and over. It also means you don't get your own CD and if you want to reinstall or need any servicing you are supposed to go back to the dealer. A pain but saves everyone a lot of money.

movybuf wrote:


Also, would I really see any benefit to running my computer with the 64bit windows? My computer has the Intel Pentium T4400 and 2GB Ram.


No, not really. The main advantage of 64bit operating systems is that they are able to utilize more than 3gb of RAM.

movybuf wrote:
My computer is completely in Korean so, I need my wife to help me translate some of the commands.


You can switch languages in windows 7. I don't know if the Korean version comes with English already installed but if not you can download it in Windows Update under the optional updates.

Once you have it downloaded: Control Panel -> Clock, Language and Region -> Change Display Language
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Xylox



Joined: 09 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Probably be a bad idea to try and install 64 bit OS on your comp. You can't just load a 64 bit OS on 32 bit hardware, if your comp doesn't support 64 bit then you will do nothing but waste time.

non-legit copies of windows 7 will work fine, but generally you won't be able to update your comp through microsoft. Its not that big of a deal though honestly, if you format every 6-12 months and just keep getting new copies then comp will stay relatively up to date.
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cmr



Joined: 22 Mar 2006

PostPosted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 7:12 pm    Post subject: Re: New Laptop and Windows 7 Questions Reply with quote

movybuf wrote:
My computer has the Intel Pentium T4400 and 2GB Ram.


As long as you have only 2GB of RAM, I don't see the point of going for the 64 bit version. Here's what Microsoft has to say about Windows 7 and RAM:

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Windows 7 system requirements
If you want to run Windows 7 on your PC, here's what it takes:

...

�1 gigabyte (GB) RAM (32-bit) or 2 GB RAM (64-bit)
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